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Post by musik on Nov 8, 2021 21:24:34 GMT
I'm getting a check at the water pipes in my kitchen tomorrow afternoon at last 🙂 by someone from the property service. I rent it.
I live in a house with flats all around my own so to say.
The guy told me it's very difficult to decide where a sound comes from, from what appartment. It almost sounded like he'd given up in advance! 😒
I doubt that very much, since I'm a man of solutions. And therefore I write here for some last minute advice.
I fear a huge water leak coming up.
It sounds like the pipes are moving. I hear them shake and sometimes sounds like a hammer as well. What can it be?
Q: If you live in the center of such a building, with flats all around yourself and you have a terrible high volume sound from the pipes in your own(!) kitchen when some neighbour (probably next door) start the dish washer or just take a glass of water - how is it possible to locate a sound like that exactly? He mentioned they must know Exactly, since the pipes are long. It must work to do some maths? How do they normally do it?
When I do my dishes, turn on warm or cold water, no added noise at all in my kitchen, just the normal sounds from it! But when the neighbour do what they do, dishes, pouring water, the noise is dreadful.
How can pipes be connected between kitchens wall to wall?
😳
A long shot or a long throw à la Delap.
pear ice cream with chocolate bits in panic mode //:musik
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2021 22:20:52 GMT
Sounds like you’ve got a poltergeist.
It ain’t a plumber you need, it’s a man with a crucifix.
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 5:58:55 GMT
Sounds like you’ve got a poltergeist. It ain’t a plumber you need, it’s a man with a crucifix. If only they sent a plumber, but maybe the young property team guy can recommend them to do so. Funny fact, when they were here last time about leakages several years ago they talked about a poltergeist here, since they found unbelievable signs they saw themselves (the spots on the wall were located where there were no pipes) and the former tennant had died here in the beginning of the new millenium just before I moved in they said and the inspector called it poltergeist signs. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 6:06:59 GMT
Yesterday he said they won't bother the neighbour next door since I made the complaint, not them/he/she. I have no idea who lives there. Yet.
Let's see what happens today, but I won't settle with that.
Q: Any idea on how to find out EXACTLY where a water leakage is or can occur in a situation like this?
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 7:30:59 GMT
Dreadful sound from the shaking pipes early this morning again, which woke me up. 😡
Test: turned on the water tap myself maximum mode here now, no noise.
Interesting Question is: HOW are pipes between flats connected? How can the sound from "their" pipes sound like it was happening inside my kitchen? Noise approx 70 dB I would say. You have to raise your voice to be heard.
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Post by walstoke on Nov 9, 2021 7:34:07 GMT
Yesterday he said they won't bother the neighbour next door since I made the complaint, not them/he/she. I have no idea who lives there. Yet. Let's see what happens today, but I won't settle with that. Q: Any idea on how to find out EXACTLY where a water leakage is or can occur in a situation like this? knocking in pipes is due to variable pressure which causes air pockets and can be a problem in long runs of pipe. It's unlikely to cause a leak, but it may send you crackers. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 7:53:04 GMT
Yesterday he said they won't bother the neighbour next door since I made the complaint, not them/he/she. I have no idea who lives there. Yet. Let's see what happens today, but I won't settle with that. Q: Any idea on how to find out EXACTLY where a water leakage is or can occur in a situation like this? knocking in pipes is due to variable pressure which causes air pockets and can be a problem in long runs of pipe. It's unlikely to cause a leak, but it may send you crackers. Thanks Walstoke! 🙂 Air pockets ... About a week ago they were digging in the street outside and put pressure on the pipes, a note in the entrance said. The neighbour/s next door have had a dish washer and I think it began when they used that monster a certain day. There's a brick wall between the two kitchens, but also an extension next to it at one side with walls made of gypsum. It works like a resonance chamber soundwise. Shaking sound, sometimes followed by hammer sounds. Will the open up the gypsum wall? Replacing a valve? He asked yesterday how it sounded, if it was a long whistling sound. I have it recorded. It's like metal parts shaking onto each other. I hear the neighbours mumble each time it happens, but not only them next door, also above me and below. Too loud to be considered "normal". |
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Post by walstoke on Nov 9, 2021 8:14:49 GMT
knocking in pipes is due to variable pressure which causes air pockets and can be a problem in long runs of pipe. It's unlikely to cause a leak, but it may send you crackers. Thanks Walstoke! 🙂 Air pockets ... About a week ago they were digging in the street outside and put pressure on the pipes, a note in the entrance said. The neighbour/s next door have had a dish washer and I think it began when they used that monster a certain day. There's a brick wall between the two kitchens, but also an extension next to it at one side with walls made of gypsum. It works like a resonance chamber soundwise. Shaking sound, sometimes followed by hammer sounds. Will the open up the gypsum wall? Replacing a valve? He asked yesterday how it sounded, if it was a long whistling sound. I have it recorded. It's like metal parts shaking onto each other. I hear the neighbours mumble each time it happens, but not only them next door, also above me and below. Too loud to be considered "normal". The knocking is water trying to displace air. I'm not sure how they'll go about fixing it though. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 10:03:25 GMT
Thanks Walstoke! 🙂 Air pockets ... About a week ago they were digging in the street outside and put pressure on the pipes, a note in the entrance said. The neighbour/s next door have had a dish washer and I think it began when they used that monster a certain day. There's a brick wall between the two kitchens, but also an extension next to it at one side with walls made of gypsum. It works like a resonance chamber soundwise. Shaking sound, sometimes followed by hammer sounds. Will the open up the gypsum wall? Replacing a valve? He asked yesterday how it sounded, if it was a long whistling sound. I have it recorded. It's like metal parts shaking onto each other. I hear the neighbours mumble each time it happens, but not only them next door, also above me and below. Too loud to be considered "normal". The knocking is water trying to displace air. I'm not sure how they'll go about fixing it though. Sometimes when taking water from the water tap into a glass, you can actually see bubbles. It's like a light version of dish water. And on every morning it sounds like a carpenter has an early shift, but that comes from the entrance level. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 11:40:40 GMT
25 mins to go. Partickpotter's poltergeist theory is quite interesting. The fluorescent lamp above the stove broke down late yesterday after 15 years. Just in time for the visitor.
When someone in the appartment above me just now took some water, my water tap started to shake!
That's a new one.
You could feel the vibrations when holding there.
20 mins to go.
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 15:30:53 GMT
He got here. He went. Did nout.
They will put up a note asking if anyone else has experienced this.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 9, 2021 15:41:39 GMT
Dreadful sound from the shaking pipes early this morning again, which woke me up. 😡 Test: turned on the water tap myself maximum mode here now, no noise. Interesting Question is: HOW are pipes between flats connected? How can the sound from "their" pipes sound like it was happening inside my kitchen? Noise approx 70 dB I would say. You have to raise your voice to be heard. I'm in a flat and been flooded out twice by leaks above me. Even the tiniest pinhole metres above takes days at most to soak the wall and cause puddles. So good news is you're probably not having a leak. In my building the pipes run up in the wall between flats, next to the kitchen on one side. Cold water pipe kitchen side goes up three floors and has smaller pipes coming sideways off it to feed into each person's kitchen. 6 people from each wall-pipe. If there's a leak they start cutting holes in the wall and ceiling to find it. If it's air in the pipes you'd imagine there'd be a way to bleed it out, like radiators? Sounds really annoying Musik, hope they fix it mate. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 17:59:04 GMT
Dreadful sound from the shaking pipes early this morning again, which woke me up. 😡 Test: turned on the water tap myself maximum mode here now, no noise. Interesting Question is: HOW are pipes between flats connected? How can the sound from "their" pipes sound like it was happening inside my kitchen? Noise approx 70 dB I would say. You have to raise your voice to be heard. I'm in a flat and been flooded out twice by leaks above me. Even the tiniest pinhole metres above takes days at most to soak the wall and cause puddles. So good news is you're probably not having a leak. In my building the pipes run up in the wall between flats, next to the kitchen on one side. Cold water pipe kitchen side goes up three floors and has smaller pipes coming sideways off it to feed into each person's kitchen. 6 people from each wall-pipe. If there's a leak they start cutting holes in the wall and ceiling to find it. If it's air in the pipes you'd imagine there'd be a way to bleed it out, like radiators? Sounds really annoying Musik, hope they fix it mate. Thanks! How did you notice there was a leak? What was the first sign? Is it an old building? The building is from the 1890ies, but the kitchens with new pipes and baths were installed in the 1980ies. Pipes have valves. After some time they can move and leakages can occur. The whole building is actually moving. The whole neighbourhood stands on what they call blue mud, since the 1890ies. My bathroom door is difficult to open and one of the bedroom windows is absolutely impossible to open. I noticed some years ago a piece of grey floorcloth stuck between two water pipes when I looked inside the sink cabinet, to prevent the two pipes from colliding and produce a shaking sound. That piece of floorcloth was worn out, so I took a piece of hard paper recently to dampen the sound just a bit. They will put up a note in the staircase and ask if someone has a bad gasket. He thought that was the reason my water tap was shaking. I'm very skeptical. On Tuesday he'll return to install a couple of fluorescent lamps. Then I will ask how it went with the pipes. What bothers me the most is their unwillingness to increase their knowledge. He said it's very difficult to know how the pipes are located. If you don't know, seek the answer. Go to the City Archives and look it up! I would do it myself, but since last year you must have a certain reason to ask for the architect drawings, like being the property owner, an architect or building company boss. 🤓 |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 9, 2021 20:39:39 GMT
I'm getting a check at the water pipes in my kitchen tomorrow afternoon at last 🙂 by someone from the property service. I rent it. I live in a house with flats all around my own so to say. The guy told me it's very difficult to decide where a sound comes from, from what appartment. It almost sounded like he'd given up in advance! 😒 I doubt that very much, since I'm a man of solutions. And therefore I write here for some last minute advice. I fear a huge water leak coming up. It sounds like the pipes are moving. I hear them shake and sometimes sounds like a hammer as well. What can it be? Q: If you live in the center of such a building, with flats all around yourself and you have a terrible high volume sound from the pipes in your own(!) kitchen when some neighbour (probably next door) start the dish washer or just take a glass of water - how is it possible to locate a sound like that exactly? He mentioned they must know Exactly, since the pipes are long. It must work to do some maths? How do they normally do it? When I do my dishes, turn on warm or cold water, no added noise at all in my kitchen, just the normal sounds from it! But when the neighbour do what they do, dishes, pouring water, the noise is dreadful. How can pipes be connected between kitchens wall to wall? 😳 A long shot or a long throw à la Delap. pear ice cream with chocolate bits in panic mode //:musik This is a simple one really musik. It's obvious air has got into your building's system of pipes from the increased water pressure work done on your mains pipe outside your building. So here's what to do. Organize a meeting of all residents. (They all have to be there for this to work.) Tell them that, starting with the people in the bottom floor, they open all their taps and keep them running. Give it ten minutes and then those in the next floor up do exactly the same. If there are more floors than two then repeat the process until you get right to the top floor. If you do it right, you'll end up with a noise like the link below but knocking pipes rather than clacking feet. Then repeat the process in reverse. Wa-la! Simple really.  Pepperoni pizza and a Budweiser. OS. |
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Post by musik on Nov 9, 2021 21:42:52 GMT
I'm getting a check at the water pipes in my kitchen tomorrow afternoon at last 🙂 by someone from the property service. I rent it. I live in a house with flats all around my own so to say. The guy told me it's very difficult to decide where a sound comes from, from what appartment. It almost sounded like he'd given up in advance! 😒 I doubt that very much, since I'm a man of solutions. And therefore I write here for some last minute advice. I fear a huge water leak coming up. It sounds like the pipes are moving. I hear them shake and sometimes sounds like a hammer as well. What can it be? Q: If you live in the center of such a building, with flats all around yourself and you have a terrible high volume sound from the pipes in your own(!) kitchen when some neighbour (probably next door) start the dish washer or just take a glass of water - how is it possible to locate a sound like that exactly? He mentioned they must know Exactly, since the pipes are long. It must work to do some maths? How do they normally do it? When I do my dishes, turn on warm or cold water, no added noise at all in my kitchen, just the normal sounds from it! But when the neighbour do what they do, dishes, pouring water, the noise is dreadful. How can pipes be connected between kitchens wall to wall? 😳 A long shot or a long throw à la Delap. pear ice cream with chocolate bits in panic mode //:musik This is a simple one really musik. It's obvious air has got into your building's system of pipes from the increased water pressure work done on your mains pipe outside your building. So here's what to do. Organize a meeting of all residents. (They all have to be there for this to work.) Tell them that, starting with the people in the bottom floor, they open all their taps and keep them running. Give it ten minutes and then those in the next floor up do exactly the same. If there are more floors than two then repeat the process until you get right to the top floor. If you do it right, you'll end up with a noise like the link below but knocking pipes rather than clacking feet. Then repeat the process in reverse. Wa-la! Simple really. Pepperoni pizza and a Budweiser. OS. And then it will be all quiet, you think?🤔 Why don't they move their arms while dancing? They look like birds. |
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Post by musik on Nov 10, 2021 6:53:22 GMT
This morning the pipes probably sounded by themselves, without anyone using any water.
The heating of the water system? 🤔
Hopefully a note on the wall in the stairwell this week, and some reaction.
And hopefully I can record a longer than 2 sec sequence of the noise before Tuesday.
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Post by musik on Nov 10, 2021 13:11:49 GMT
Tested my gaskets again. I think I know what he meant by "a bad gasket in one appartment can cause trouble far way soundwise".
If I just take some hot water in the kitchen, at a certain position on the tap a sort of shaking starts.
Not enough to explain the whole shaking problem, but if a neighbour has a gasket more worn out than mine the noise might be higher - I don't know, how would I know
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Post by walstoke on Nov 10, 2021 16:55:06 GMT
Tested my gaskets again. I think I know what he meant by "a bad gasket in one appartment can cause trouble far way soundwise". If I just take some hot water in the kitchen, at a certain position on the tap a sort of shaking starts. Not enough to explain the whole shaking problem, but if a neighbour has a gasket more worn out than mine the noise might be higher - I don't know, how would I know Something you can try. First turn off the mains supply at the point it enters your building, then get everyone affected to open all there taps and flush their toilet to drain the system, then turn the water back on. From my old fella, he's usually pretty good. |
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Post by walstoke on Nov 10, 2021 16:59:42 GMT
Tested my gaskets again. I think I know what he meant by "a bad gasket in one appartment can cause trouble far way soundwise". If I just take some hot water in the kitchen, at a certain position on the tap a sort of shaking starts. Not enough to explain the whole shaking problem, but if a neighbour has a gasket more worn out than mine the noise might be higher - I don't know, how would I know You can get water hammer arresters, but you'd have to get a plumber in for that. |
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Post by musik on Nov 11, 2021 18:46:30 GMT
Tested my gaskets again. I think I know what he meant by "a bad gasket in one appartment can cause trouble far way soundwise". If I just take some hot water in the kitchen, at a certain position on the tap a sort of shaking starts. Not enough to explain the whole shaking problem, but if a neighbour has a gasket more worn out than mine the noise might be higher - I don't know, how would I know Something you can try. First turn off the mains supply at the point it enters your building, then get everyone affected to open all there taps and flush their toilet to drain the system, then turn the water back on. From my old fella, he's usually pretty good. I won't touch any pipes personally or turn off any main supply. Not even the property management service team do that. They can call a plumber, but so far it seems only when there's a water leak. |
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Post by musik on Nov 11, 2021 18:48:19 GMT
Tested my gaskets again. I think I know what he meant by "a bad gasket in one appartment can cause trouble far way soundwise". If I just take some hot water in the kitchen, at a certain position on the tap a sort of shaking starts. Not enough to explain the whole shaking problem, but if a neighbour has a gasket more worn out than mine the noise might be higher - I don't know, how would I know You can get water hammer arresters, but you'd have to get a plumber in for that. That's exactly what I try to convince them to do. So far no action. But I'm still interested in how I would know there is a water leak present. What are the symptoms? |
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Post by walstoke on Nov 12, 2021 4:51:21 GMT
You can get water hammer arresters, but you'd have to get a plumber in for that. That's exactly what I try to convince them to do. So far no action. But I'm still interested in how I would know there is a water leak present. What are the symptoms? A leak on a pipe fed by the mains would spray water and you'd hear it, a leak on heating pipes drips and you lose presaure. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 12, 2021 6:12:33 GMT
I'm in a flat and been flooded out twice by leaks above me. Even the tiniest pinhole metres above takes days at most to soak the wall and cause puddles. So good news is you're probably not having a leak. In my building the pipes run up in the wall between flats, next to the kitchen on one side. Cold water pipe kitchen side goes up three floors and has smaller pipes coming sideways off it to feed into each person's kitchen. 6 people from each wall-pipe. If there's a leak they start cutting holes in the wall and ceiling to find it. If it's air in the pipes you'd imagine there'd be a way to bleed it out, like radiators? Sounds really annoying Musik, hope they fix it mate. Thanks! How did you notice there was a leak? What was the first sign? Is it an old building? The building is from the 1890ies, but the kitchens with new pipes and baths were installed in the 1980ies. Pipes have valves. After some time they can move and leakages can occur. The whole building is actually moving. The whole neighbourhood stands on what they call blue mud, since the 1890ies. My bathroom door is difficult to open and one of the bedroom windows is absolutely impossible to open. I noticed some years ago a piece of grey floorcloth stuck between two water pipes when I looked inside the sink cabinet, to prevent the two pipes from colliding and produce a shaking sound. That piece of floorcloth was worn out, so I took a piece of hard paper recently to dampen the sound just a bit. They will put up a note in the staircase and ask if someone has a bad gasket. He thought that was the reason my water tap was shaking. I'm very skeptical. On Tuesday he'll return to install a couple of fluorescent lamps. Then I will ask how it went with the pipes. What bothers me the most is their unwillingness to increase their knowledge. He said it's very difficult to know how the pipes are located. If you don't know, seek the answer. Go to the City Archives and look it up! I would do it myself, but since last year you must have a certain reason to ask for the architect drawings, like being the property owner, an architect or building company boss. 🤓 The first thing I noticed was a soggy carpet. Both times the leak was in the wall pipe, it squirted out and soaks into the wall, then goes down the wall and along the floor until you have a puddle. Eventually you get bubbles in the wall or ceiling and you can sort of feel it's soggy, but they use some kind of electric conduction stick to work out how far it's gone. It's a pretty new building, 1980s I think. I haven't noticed other structural issues other than constantly bursting pipes, but it was given a decent wobble by an earthquake after I moved in. Any news from the worker? And maybe you could call in Prof John Burland, I think he was the lad who straightened out that tower in Pisa. |
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Post by musik on Nov 12, 2021 14:53:02 GMT
Thanks! How did you notice there was a leak? What was the first sign? Is it an old building? The building is from the 1890ies, but the kitchens with new pipes and baths were installed in the 1980ies. Pipes have valves. After some time they can move and leakages can occur. The whole building is actually moving. The whole neighbourhood stands on what they call blue mud, since the 1890ies. My bathroom door is difficult to open and one of the bedroom windows is absolutely impossible to open. I noticed some years ago a piece of grey floorcloth stuck between two water pipes when I looked inside the sink cabinet, to prevent the two pipes from colliding and produce a shaking sound. That piece of floorcloth was worn out, so I took a piece of hard paper recently to dampen the sound just a bit. They will put up a note in the staircase and ask if someone has a bad gasket. He thought that was the reason my water tap was shaking. I'm very skeptical. On Tuesday he'll return to install a couple of fluorescent lamps. Then I will ask how it went with the pipes. What bothers me the most is their unwillingness to increase their knowledge. He said it's very difficult to know how the pipes are located. If you don't know, seek the answer. Go to the City Archives and look it up! I would do it myself, but since last year you must have a certain reason to ask for the architect drawings, like being the property owner, an architect or building company boss. 🤓 The first thing I noticed was a soggy carpet. Both times the leak was in the wall pipe, it squirted out and soaks into the wall, then goes down the wall and along the floor until you have a puddle. Eventually you get bubbles in the wall or ceiling and you can sort of feel it's soggy, but they use some kind of electric conduction stick to work out how far it's gone. It's a pretty new building, 1980s I think. I haven't noticed other structural issues other than constantly bursting pipes, but it was given a decent wobble by an earthquake after I moved in. Any news from the worker? And maybe you could call in Prof John Burland, I think he was the lad who straightened out that tower in Pisa. No news from any worker. As planned I hope he'll show up on Tuesday to replace the original lamps with fluorescent lamps above the dish cabinet. I will ask him why there is no note in the stairwell as he promised, about the eventual bad gaskets, the question if someone has that. The kitchen is placed like this: The wall with my dish cabinet and stove is opposite to my neighbours, wall to wall - a thick brick wall is between us. So I wonder if we share some pipes in that particular apace, I don't think so. The guy didn't know. But, to the left of that there is a gypsum wall. This wall goes out into the kitchen. And inside that space, which is approx 50 cm into my kitchen and next to the window. And as I understand it my neighbour's appartment is a mirror image of mine. Conclusion: the noisy thin pipes I'm talking about in this thread go up and down in the center of that 1 meter room with thin gypsum walls. Small leakages between the pipes hits the floor, the water drips down down .... down. It won't be noticed for long. They have covered the walls with all the deep cracks in the yard with corrugated iron already. I wonder how the walls really look like. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Nov 12, 2021 15:24:45 GMT
Have you tried hitting it with a hammer?
Failing that some WD40 might work.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 12, 2021 16:13:34 GMT
[snip]No news from any worker. As planned I hope he'll show up on Tuesday to replace the original lamps with fluorescent lamps above the dish cabinet. I will ask him why there is no note in the stairwell as he promised, about the eventual bad gaskets, the question if someone has that. The kitchen is placed like this: The wall with my dish cabinet and stove is opposite to my neighbours, wall to wall - a thick brick wall is between us. So I wonder if we share some pipes in that particular apace, I don't think so. The guy didn't know. But, to the left of that there is a gypsum wall. This wall goes out into the kitchen. And inside that space, which is approx 50 cm into my kitchen and next to the window. And as I understand it my neighbour's appartment is a mirror image of mine. Conclusion: the noisy thin pipes I'm talking about in this thread go up and down in the center of that 1 meter room with thin gypsum walls. Small leakages between the pipes hits the floor, the water drips down down .... down. It won't be noticed for long. They have covered the walls with all the deep cracks in the yard with corrugated iron already. I wonder how the walls really look like. What's the water pressure like in those between-wall pipes? The plumber said my last leak was "pinhole" and he showed me, it was almost too small to spot but the pressure squirted out a constant fine mist of water. It soaked the inner wall and within days (they wouldn't permanently turn off the water to all 6 rooms to protect me) my ceiling, walls, and kitchen were ruined and had to be stripped out and rebuilt. He said "up to 200 gallons a day" would come out of that (he meant US gallons, so ~700 litres?), but that it was a thing that happens to copper pipes. You should notice one of those unless I guess there's a big enough gap between the walls and the spray is straight down so it somehow drops to the bottom? I guess there are leaks that drip, maybe if one of the joints got twisted and has a small leak, or if its in the outflow pipes? My other recent water issue was the air conditioning outflow backing up and leaking into my room. It's a bit embarrassing being so clueless about something I rely on every day. |
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Post by musik on Nov 13, 2021 1:27:52 GMT
Have you tried hitting it with a hammer? Failing that some WD40 might work. Hit what with a hammer? 🤓 I won't do anything. It's up to the property management service team to take action, call a plumber or whatever. They've told me to call quickly if it gets even worse. Therefore we're discussing the eventual signs of a terrible leak somewhere. |
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Post by musik on Nov 13, 2021 1:33:09 GMT
[snip]No news from any worker. As planned I hope he'll show up on Tuesday to replace the original lamps with fluorescent lamps above the dish cabinet. I will ask him why there is no note in the stairwell as he promised, about the eventual bad gaskets, the question if someone has that. The kitchen is placed like this: The wall with my dish cabinet and stove is opposite to my neighbours, wall to wall - a thick brick wall is between us. So I wonder if we share some pipes in that particular apace, I don't think so. The guy didn't know. But, to the left of that there is a gypsum wall. This wall goes out into the kitchen. And inside that space, which is approx 50 cm into my kitchen and next to the window. And as I understand it my neighbour's appartment is a mirror image of mine. Conclusion: the noisy thin pipes I'm talking about in this thread go up and down in the center of that 1 meter room with thin gypsum walls. Small leakages between the pipes hits the floor, the water drips down down .... down. It won't be noticed for long. They have covered the walls with all the deep cracks in the yard with corrugated iron already. I wonder how the walls really look like. What's the water pressure like in those between-wall pipes? The plumber said my last leak was "pinhole" and he showed me, it was almost too small to spot but the pressure squirted out a constant fine mist of water. It soaked the inner wall and within days (they wouldn't permanently turn off the water to all 6 rooms to protect me) my ceiling, walls, and kitchen were ruined and had to be stripped out and rebuilt. He said "up to 200 gallons a day" would come out of that (he meant US gallons, so ~700 litres?), but that it was a thing that happens to copper pipes. You should notice one of those unless I guess there's a big enough gap between the walls and the spray is straight down so it somehow drops to the bottom? I guess there are leaks that drip, maybe if one of the joints got twisted and has a small leak, or if its in the outflow pipes? My other recent water issue was the air conditioning outflow backing up and leaking into my room. It's a bit embarrassing being so clueless about something I rely on every day. I can't say what the water pressure's like on those pipes. I can turn on the water, warm or cold or both and the flow is normal. That I know. The problem is when someone else is taken some water, above me or next to my kitchen - then my pipes sounds. A lot! It's like something is going to fall apart, metal colliding. But nothing weird when I do the dishes manually or whatever I do. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 13, 2021 4:14:54 GMT
This lot have some ideas. "Water hammer" sounds scary. But you also mentioned they bumped the water pressure and your building is old so the mountings might have got pulled loose. Still a horrible mystery then musik!
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Post by musik on Nov 13, 2021 8:05:49 GMT
This lot have some ideas. "Water hammer" sounds scary. But you also mentioned they bumped the water pressure and your building is old so the mountings might have got pulled loose. Still a horrible mystery then musik! Thanks a lot! And I do understand these 4 possible reasons for it. If I would guess I'd say number 1 and 4. I played the noise to him then and I said it sounds like something is loose. He agreed, "or bad cushioning, but it's difficult to say where the pipes go" - but I could always call the property management number or the SOS emergency number if it got worse. The real problem is the waiting. And I can't imagine any case where it has went away over time by itself. They actually don't have to take the whole gypsum wall down to see the pipes, it would be enough to make a hole to get room for some light and a camera. To begin with. And when it comes to "caused by high water pressure", yes it's most noticed when the neighbours wall to wall use their dish washer. Or should I say "used", I seldom hear it or them anymore. I don't have a dish washer myself now, but I did a decade ago. No such problems then. The flush function on it got worn out. Edith: The house is old and unvoluntarily moving, a lot of cracks, a lot, you can even see them on the wallpapers! So it's only natural the mountings get loose. Just like windows or doors are hard to open, or close or the electric cables get loose (they're ON the walls and inner ceiling, not hidden inside any walls). Unfortunately, those thin pipes (with a too small dimension considering the presence of dish washers?) are hidden though, behind a thin gypsum wall in the kitchen (as I wrote) - very unsuitable. 🤠 |
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