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Post by innocentbystander on Oct 3, 2021 12:36:02 GMT
Won't be long before Munoz gets another Championship club. Cardiff? Boro?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Oct 3, 2021 12:47:47 GMT
The head coach is just another employee. It seems like it’s only here in England we worship them like Gods. It’s beyond bizarre. I suppose a lot of it is to do with those that still like to see it as a sport and those who look at it as a business. It's still hard to compare the world of football to your standard jobs though isn't it? Not really football clubs and other sportsmen and women change their coach quite readily whereas I think many football fans are more backward looking longing for some sort of era of success and someone to put on a pedestal.
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 3, 2021 13:07:03 GMT
Surely CR would be mad to take that job? Why not? He has nothing to lose. Despite the Leicester title win, no one views him as anything else other than an average manager with top flight experience and just about enough tactical nous to grab a few results. If he gets sacked, he gets a pay off and moves on.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 3, 2021 13:07:18 GMT
It works for them. They aren't really a premier sized club and bounce around accordingly.
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 3, 2021 13:15:36 GMT
I suppose a lot of it is to do with those that still like to see it as a sport and those who look at it as a business. It's still hard to compare the world of football to your standard jobs though isn't it? Not really football clubs and other sportsmen and women change their coach quite readily whereas I think many football fans are more backward looking longing for some sort of era of success and someone to put on a pedestal. Not what I've experienced in 25 years in several sports. Clubs often keep coaches, particularly a head coach for many years and I find football to be quite different.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 3, 2021 13:24:33 GMT
I can’t imagine it being very fun from a supporter point of view to be honest. Seems completely wank.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Oct 3, 2021 13:32:01 GMT
Any team would have been promoted with the luck and refereeing decisions they got last season. Aside from the obvious one against us care to mention any of these jammy decisions ? They were up comfortably on merit . Just my opinion😉every time I watched them last season seemed to get the majority of decisions, I won quite a bit of money betting on next goal penno for Watford, Sarr particularly has an ability to get penalties very softly.
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 3, 2021 13:34:42 GMT
So who do we reckon they'll appoint next August then when Ranieri gets sacked?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Oct 3, 2021 13:40:25 GMT
Not really football clubs and other sportsmen and women change their coach quite readily whereas I think many football fans are more backward looking longing for some sort of era of success and someone to put on a pedestal. Not what I've experienced in 25 years in several sports. Clubs often keep coaches, particularly a head coach for many years and I find football to be quite different. Yes many do in an attempt to achieve a golden era but statistically that fails thousands of times more than it succeeds.
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Post by devondumpling on Oct 3, 2021 14:01:30 GMT
Not what I've experienced in 25 years in several sports. Clubs often keep coaches, particularly a head coach for many years and I find football to be quite different. Yes many do in an attempt to achieve a golden era but statistically that fails thousands of times more than it succeeds. Looking at Brentford?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Oct 3, 2021 14:06:51 GMT
Yes many do in an attempt to achieve a golden era but statistically that fails thousands of times more than it succeeds. Looking at Brentford? No Chelsea in England. I think they've won far more trophies flitting between managers than they ever would have sticking with any one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 14:10:23 GMT
I like the way Watford do things but this one seems particularly nuts and unnecessary. What a surprise. Everyone in the world of football thinks the way Watford hire and fire their managers is ridiculous, but you really like it. I'm shocked, genuinely shocked
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2021 14:15:54 GMT
I like the way Watford do things but this one seems particularly nuts and unnecessary. What a surprise. Everyone in the world of football thinks the way Watford hire and fire their managers is ridiculous, but you really like it. I'm shocked, genuinely shocked It’s not ridiculous though is it and has bought them success. And it’s not everyone. English people on the whole who are behind the 8 ball when it comes to football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 15:16:15 GMT
It is what it is. A ridiculous decision.
But nobody is surpised.
The players must have no clue what is going on. Zero consistency. New managers repeatedly coming in with their own styles of play, different systems etc.
Absolutely no reason to sack him either.
Crazy.
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 3, 2021 15:44:41 GMT
Not what I've experienced in 25 years in several sports. Clubs often keep coaches, particularly a head coach for many years and I find football to be quite different. Yes many do in an attempt to achieve a golden era but statistically that fails thousands of times more than it succeeds. Not really mate, the further down the chain you go, more teams of a similar standard exist. There is also less money involved, especially when wages are concerned. So you don't have a huge list of replacement coaches ready to jump in if the current coach is deemed to be failing. As I said, there is a vast difference when it's being run as a sports club as opposed to a business. Since the turn of the century, maybe even coinciding with the sky takeover in the 90s, football is way more of a business and I'd go as far as saying it's almost completely lost its identity as a sport. But the fans still cling on, and rightly so, to the notion that we are still fans of a sporting club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2021 15:50:37 GMT
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Oct 3, 2021 16:31:34 GMT
So who do we reckon they'll appoint next August then when Ranieri gets sacked? You give him or whoever the next manager is that long? They could be gone by January. One thing's for sure, it's not a club O'Neill would go to.
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Post by lordb on Oct 3, 2021 18:20:37 GMT
So who do we reckon they'll appoint next August then when Ranieri gets sacked? August?
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 3, 2021 18:31:18 GMT
I just wish our Board would adopt this idea...MoN would have been gone ages ago
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 3, 2021 20:57:38 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Oct 3, 2021 21:18:08 GMT
Ranieri has pretty much failed everywhere he’s been since winning the premier league hasn’t he? Other than his last job at Sampdoria.
Very interesting to see how this one works out.
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 4, 2021 6:54:02 GMT
So who do we reckon they'll appoint next August then when Ranieri gets sacked? August? Just going off of Xisco lasting 10 months, so 10 months till August.
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Post by Gods on Oct 4, 2021 7:17:11 GMT
Blimey I didn't realise Ranieri us still going.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2021 8:36:58 GMT
I couldn't give a fuck as long as they don't try and send Etebo back.
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2021 11:27:18 GMT
I couldn't give a fuck as long as they don't try and send Etebo back. he's injured fo 4 to 5 months so in effect he's coming back presumably
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Post by moon on Oct 4, 2021 12:11:03 GMT
What a surprise. Everyone in the world of football thinks the way Watford hire and fire their managers is ridiculous, but you really like it. I'm shocked, genuinely shocked It’s not ridiculous though is it and has bought them success. And it’s not everyone. English people on the whole who are behind the 8 ball when it comes to football. They have achieved some short term success, but the odd promotion or survival is the maximum they are likely to achieve with their strategy of changing manager every 9 months.
Their best achievement is 5 consecutive years in the Premier League with a highest finish of 11th place and an FA cup runners up medal, it's not a lot of success considering how risky their strategy is.
They will get it horribly wrong soon enough and next time they come down to the Championship they could be down here for a long time, they were lucky to finish in the top 2 last season - fair play they got the points on the board but they were nowhere near the quality of Norwich or Brentford for me.
It's only a matter of time before it comes back to bite them, it's a shitty and a ridiculous way to run a football club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2021 12:17:00 GMT
It’s not ridiculous though is it and has bought them success. And it’s not everyone. English people on the whole who are behind the 8 ball when it comes to football. They have achieved some short term success, but the odd promotion or survival is the maximum they are likely to achieve with their strategy of changing manager every 9 months.
Their best achievement is 5 consecutive years in the Premier League with a highest finish of 11th place and an FA cup runners up medal, it's not a lot of success considering how risky their strategy is.
They will get it horribly wrong soon enough and next time they come down to the Championship they could be down here for a long time, they were lucky to finish in the top 2 last season - fair play they got the points on the board but they were nowhere near the quality of Norwich or Brentford for me. It's only a matter of time before it comes back to bite them, it's a shitty and a ridiculous way to run a football club.
I would argue for a club like Watford that's pretty successful. Brentford no. But Norwich? What's the point in them?
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Post by Widget123 on Oct 4, 2021 13:01:16 GMT
Just going off of Xisco lasting 10 months, so 10 months till August. Its so nailed on he's probably left Mrs Ranieri a note on the dining room table: "Had a job offer, going to England until the summer, have a nice Xmas and see you on the beach in Monte Carlo (I'll order a new yacht) for the World Cup!"
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Post by unknown182 on Oct 5, 2021 8:50:13 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2021 8:56:26 GMT
I like the way Watford do things but this one seems particularly nuts and unnecessary. What a surprise. Everyone in the world of football thinks the way Watford hire and fire their managers is ridiculous, but you really like it. I'm shocked, genuinely shocked Interested to know why you think it's ridiculous when it clearly works?
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