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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 8:42:15 GMT
After listening to the commentary midweek where they couldn't keep track of who was on the pitch and who had scored (which was incredibly frustrating having no video to follow reality) and being bored to death by the commentary yesterday I do think there are fresh ideas needed over at R.S.
Absolutely no one can deny Nige's legacy in the city and it's fantastic he's been doing comms for over 50 years and must be around 2100 games now but is there a need for Pejic or Conroy et al. to be partnered with him? I think now is the time that Radio Stoke should look for the next Nige or Niges. Would be brilliant I think if we could have Nige as representation for the veterans and have a youngster with different perspectives and ideas to bounce off and also pass his knowledge onto while the match is going on and behind the scenes.
Perhaps it's just me but thought I'd open the door.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 8:46:55 GMT
After listening to the commentary midweek where they couldn't keep track of who was on the pitch and who had scored (which was incredibly frustrating having no video to follow reality) and being bored to death by the commentary yesterday I do think there are fresh ideas needed over at R.S. Absolutely no one can deny Nige's legacy in the city and it's fantastic he's been doing comms for over 50 years and must be around 2100 games now but is there a need for Pejic or Conroy et al. to be partnered with him? I think now is the time that Radio Stoke should look for the next Nige or Niges. Would be brilliant I think if we could have Nige as representation for the veterans and have a youngster with different perspectives and ideas to bounce off and also pass his knowledge onto while the match is going on and behind the scenes. Perhaps it's just me but thought I'd open the door. There’s a certain comic value in listening whilst watching and seeing Nige trying to keep up with the player names and then eventually giving up and resetting. I can’t imagine it’s painting the best picture for listeners. My favourite moment yesterday was Nige informing us that Hull’s Elder was not the same Alder that last played for Stoke in the early 70s. Club legend for sure but new blood is probably needed.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 26, 2021 8:47:53 GMT
It is a bit 'pint of Peddie down the WMC' isn't it.
It could do with a bit more of a younger influence IMHO- some of the banter's a bit 'Last of the Summer Wine'
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 26, 2021 8:57:00 GMT
In terms of co-commentators, nobody has come close to Gleghorn in the last 10-15 years. He was objective, insightful, articulate.
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Post by potterburt on Sept 26, 2021 8:59:01 GMT
Gotta love Nige but he is very reminiscent of some sort of pastiche of a 90’s Hugh Grant/family friendly feel good film about football and having that stereotyped moustached sheepskin-jacket-wearing radio commentator.
Other than the nostalgia/legacy side of the commentary, There is zero insight/analysis/stats. Which is very much where the current game is at. Tbh - they struggle to even do the basics of letting the listener know what’s happening, who’s on the ball and giving us the correct player names.
Definitely needs shaking up and some new blood, new thinking and dragged into the modern day.
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Post by marcofstoke on Sept 26, 2021 9:36:10 GMT
In terms of co-commentators, nobody has come close to Gleghorn in the last 10-15 years. He was objective, insightful, articulate. Before that Vinnie Overson was very good as well, unfortunately he didn’t stick around for long
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 9:37:38 GMT
I thought Liam Lawrence was very good when he did his spell on the commentary team.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 26, 2021 9:46:10 GMT
I don't mind Nige tbh, even though he did confuse Tymon with Romaine Sawyers of all people yestetday. But when he's put with Pej for example it's a bit grating. Prefer it when theres a younger more relevant co-commentator with him.
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Post by zigazaga on Sept 26, 2021 10:22:29 GMT
Pej does my head in. Not good listening at all. A know it all who knows nowt.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 26, 2021 10:26:17 GMT
We definitely need more Radio Stoke/Nige threads on here👀
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Post by loosestools on Sept 26, 2021 10:32:29 GMT
The last thing we need is more 'lads banter' types. Liam Lawrence as co host every time for me.
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Post by davethebass on Sept 26, 2021 10:54:22 GMT
Sometimes I look at the oppo's forum see what they thought of the match. Can't remember if it was Udders, or Barnsley, but one lot watched the match on our stream... there was a fair few comments about the commentary and they thought it was really funny how Nige was getting the names muddled up. But they said other than that they liked it, said they'd enjoyed it, said it was balanced and fair and down to earth compared to the shyte on Sky etc. That's paraphrased from memory because I can't be arsed go look it up again, but that's the jist of it, and I agree with them. I like Nige's commentary.
Mind you i used to listen to radio commentary in the 60s and 70s. And I used to think it was fun when they interrupted the live band for the bingo in the WMC.
Seriously though, I honestly think the commentary is good.
We got be careful what we wish for here. Imho 🙂
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Post by lordb on Sept 26, 2021 10:57:08 GMT
Nice is great,even with his mix ups However yes let's pair him up with younger co commentators
Got to be loads of ex SCFC who would give it a go Leon Cort was good
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 11:03:12 GMT
Let's be clear no one is advocating getting rid of Nige but he can't continue forever, some kind of forward planning has to be put in place. Can you imagine anyone currently on Radio Stoke who could step into his shoes?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 26, 2021 11:08:27 GMT
Nice is great,even with his mix ups However yes let's pair him up with younger co commentators Got to be loads of ex SCFC who would give it a go Leon Cort was good My thoughts entirely. Nige is like a favourite old coat or piece of furniture - sure, swankier models are available but sometimes I can't bear to throw the old favourites out. What IS needed though is a young co-commentator/analyst who is up to date with the modern game and tactics - and who isn't afraid to gently correct Nigel if/when he makes a gaffe.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 26, 2021 11:27:07 GMT
Problem they have is their main commentator, the veteran of decades is not really up to it anymore. Listends to it a bit and in 2021 it just seems really low quality
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Post by wuzza on Sept 26, 2021 12:03:11 GMT
I’ve been non too appreciative of Radio Stoke’s output in the past but at the moment I think the mix is ok. Nige does a hell of a job for a man of his years and there is a ‘comfort blanket’ factor in hearing his tones on the game. I have always thought that Ange sees a game very clearly and professionally - as a top level sports women herself she seems to have a good insight into the psychology of the whole thing. The ‘experts’ are reasonable now (Andy Quy is a good addition) but I concur with earlier views that it probably peaked with Gleghorn’s insight and eloquence. The phone in s make me cringe a bit but I guess that is a necessary evil.
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Post by march4 on Sept 26, 2021 12:09:04 GMT
Nige is the best thing on the radio at the moment. His double act with TC at Watford was priceless. And I love Pej’s insightful comments. It’s great listening to a Stoke fan who has experienced football at the highest levels.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 26, 2021 12:13:08 GMT
Pej does my head in. Not good listening at all. A know it all who knows nowt. He reminds me of Victor Meldrew. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to his car after the game and a mattress fell out.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 26, 2021 12:16:18 GMT
It’s very basic footballing insight isn’t it? Definitely needs someone who can provide more than the blatantly obvious.
Pej just rambles on with cliched references and gives little value or anything different or enlightening.
But it is local radio, and local radio by its nature is a bit shit
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 26, 2021 12:46:15 GMT
A nice, modern twist would be the introduction of a data analyst type, who could provide ongoing stats of the game. If it could be do-able then I think that would be great.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 26, 2021 12:50:59 GMT
Nige is the best thing on the radio at the moment. His double act with TC at Watford was priceless. And I love Pej’s insightful comments. It’s great listening to a Stoke fan who has experienced football at the highest levels. Best thing my arse🤣If only you knew
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 12:53:45 GMT
A nice, modern twist would be the introduction of a data analyst type, who could provide ongoing stats of the game. If it could be do-able then I think that would be great. There's loads of Stoke fans who do analytics on Twitter and the like, it's definitely do-able but is it something they have a desire to do? Probably not
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 26, 2021 15:23:16 GMT
Nice is great,even with his mix ups However yes let's pair him up with younger co commentators Got to be loads of ex SCFC who would give it a go Leon Cort was good Thought Clive Clarke was decent as well. Didn't hold back.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 26, 2021 15:44:58 GMT
I continue to enjoy Radio Stoke's football coverage but do have my favourite pundits (Liam Lawrence and Nigel Gleghorn included).
What TV/radio football coverage really has all that much deep insight? It's impossible to appeal to everyone and Radio Stoke seems at a similar level to local radio coverage I've heard from other regions.
It's been better recently when they've continued after 10pm, so I imagine feedback has been taken on board there.
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Post by armitage on Sept 26, 2021 15:58:10 GMT
In terms of co-commentators, nobody has come close to Gleghorn in the last 10-15 years. He was objective, insightful, articulate. Only lives up Lymm way, doesn't he? I'm sure we could tap him up for a few co-commentaries a season like Griff and Lennie.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 26, 2021 15:59:59 GMT
I've found Lawrence and Quy have been good in the times they've had chance to do co-comms
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 26, 2021 16:11:55 GMT
The last thing we need is more 'lads banter' types. Liam Lawrence as co host every time for me. Liam Lawrence is good, comes across as a fan as well as a co-commentator, it's almost like he feels the pain we fans do when we lose!!! 👍🏼
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Post by wokka59 on Sept 26, 2021 18:30:00 GMT
Let's be clear no one is advocating getting rid of Nige but he can't continue forever, some kind of forward planning has to be put in place. Can you imagine anyone currently on Radio Stoke who could step into his shoes? As previously mentioned we have a chap already at Radio Stoke who knocks spots off all the other sports presenters, John Acres
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 26, 2021 19:23:14 GMT
Pej does my head in. Not good listening at all. A know it all who knows nowt. He's a Stoke legend and an England International, I know because Nige says so! You are absolutely right, watched Pej many times and he was ok but not that brilliant and certainly not managerial material as he proved
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