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Post by christhepotter on Oct 17, 2021 19:10:54 GMT
I genuinely don't think the goalkeeping position is an issue for us. We have two decent keepers and there is a fag paper between them regarding ability. I agree Bursik is the keeper with potential and he will claim the starting role in the not too distant future. However, you seem fixated to the point of obsessed and micro analyse every thing Davies does in a game and almost seem to be willing him to make mistakes to confirm your opinion?? I agree Davies would have been disappointed with the second goal but there were more culpable players than Davies. In an ideal world I’d replace both of them tbh. But I think we can make a fortune from Bursik if we play him. I just think Davies should save that second goal yesterday. That’s not micro analysis for a goalie is it? It’s a pretty big thing. The sad thing is , it’s should have been saved , but u don’t think Bursik would have either , both out keepers make simple mistakes and we need better tbh
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 17, 2021 19:13:06 GMT
My issue with Davies is his distribution.
He thinks he can pass, and worse still, the defenders around him seem to think that he can pass.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 17, 2021 19:15:15 GMT
let down by the team today. If he does his job properly for the second, the team get a point. I know you don’t like Davies but Christ what about the defending what about sawyers just leaving his man and you choose to blame the keeper 😂😂😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2021 20:31:01 GMT
If he does his job properly for the second, the team get a point. I know you don’t like Davies but Christ what about the defending what about sawyers just leaving his man and you choose to blame the keeper 😂😂😂 I’ve had a go at Sawyers 🤷♂️
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Post by tuum on Oct 18, 2021 12:42:07 GMT
Just seen an interview with McGoldrick where he said his goal (their 2nd) took a deflection. Must admit I didn't see that on the replays I watched.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2021 12:56:24 GMT
Just seen an interview with McGoldrick where he said his goal (their 2nd) took a deflection. Must admit I didn't see that on the replays I watched. I thought that at the match, not because I spotted it myself but because Davies made such a hash of his attempt to save it. The deflection is barely noticeable on TV coverage but hopefully there was one because if not, it is the 2nd mistake in consecutive away games that has cost us valuable points. Given that most agree we have two "decent" keepers at the club, it ain't half a problem position right now. Joe wasn't in the best of form himself and if warm up's are anything to go by, still isn't whilst Davies looks like a complete bag of nerves most of the time. Maybe it's because both are playing under pressure of knowing a couple of errors will lead to the other coming in with no official No1 but either way, neither of our capable keepers have covered themselves in too much glory so far this season. We have to work exceptionally hard to score a goal. The opposition don't. Get a shot on target and it has a certain inevitability that a goal will result.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 18, 2021 13:25:37 GMT
Just seen an interview with McGoldrick where he said his goal (their 2nd) took a deflection. Must admit I didn't see that on the replays I watched. I thought that at the match, not because I spotted it myself but because Davies made such a hash of his attempt to save it. The deflection is barely noticeable on TV coverage but hopefully there was one because if not, it is the 2nd mistake in consecutive away games that has cost us valuable points. Given that most agree we have two "decent" keepers at the club, it ain't half a problem position right now. Joe wasn't in the best of form himself and if warm up's are anything to go by, still isn't whilst Davies looks like a complete bag of nerves most of the time. Maybe it's because both are playing under pressure of knowing a couple of errors will lead to the other coming in with no official No1 but either way, neither of our capable keepers have covered themselves in too much glory so far this season. We have to work exceptionally hard to score a goal. The opposition don't. Get a shot on target and it has a certain inevitability that a goal will result. We have two decent keepers in Bursik and Davies but neither of them is the complete package. I reckon Bursik will be one day but not if he doesn't get game time. OS.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2021 13:30:36 GMT
I thought that at the match, not because I spotted it myself but because Davies made such a hash of his attempt to save it. The deflection is barely noticeable on TV coverage but hopefully there was one because if not, it is the 2nd mistake in consecutive away games that has cost us valuable points. Given that most agree we have two "decent" keepers at the club, it ain't half a problem position right now. Joe wasn't in the best of form himself and if warm up's are anything to go by, still isn't whilst Davies looks like a complete bag of nerves most of the time. Maybe it's because both are playing under pressure of knowing a couple of errors will lead to the other coming in with no official No1 but either way, neither of our capable keepers have covered themselves in too much glory so far this season. We have to work exceptionally hard to score a goal. The opposition don't. Get a shot on target and it has a certain inevitability that a goal will result. We have two decent keepers in Bursik and Davies but neither of them is the complete package. I reckon Bursik will be one day but not if he doesn't get game time. OS. Bursik would be my no1 all day every day. Davies is at a stage of his career where he's not likely to get any better and he's arguably not as good as he young challenger right now so he's no chance when Joe matures further off the back of more experience.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 18, 2021 15:34:06 GMT
Contrary to what people seem to mystifyingly believe, goalkeeper is a glaring weak area of our team. We might have a player in Bursik but he’s young and inexperienced so it’s touch-and-go. After that we’ve got dithering Davies and the third bloke - no idea what he’s like but I’d imagine we could stick him in and not notice any particular change in quality one way or the other.
We’ve got three poor to middling Champo goalies at the moment and only one who’s likely to seriously improve. MON needs to find a way to bed Bursik back in and hope for the best because there’s naff all quality behind him.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 18, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
Jesus, there's some seriously shit stuff on here!!! We have in Davies and Bursik, TWO very decent capable keepers.... Judging by the way people are always talking about them, anybody would think we have Gordon Marshall in goal!!!
Seriously, some of you need to give your head a wobble, even the best make mistakes!!! 🙄
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2021 16:02:08 GMT
Jesus, there's some seriously shit stuff on here!!! We have in Davies and Bursik, TWO very decent capable keepers.... Judging by the way people are always talking about them, anybody would think we have Gordon Marshall in goal!!! Seriously, some of you need to give your head a wobble, even the best make mistakes!!! 🙄 I get your point but the goalkeeper, irrespective of who he is, has cost us points in each of the last 3 away games and it seems as though every shot on target has a very real chance of going in. It is perfectly fair to question the situation as its a bit of a problem when you'd readily assume it isn't, given the fact that we have two decent keepers for this level. I can only compare it to Simmo in our promotion season. Simmo was a very capable goalkeeper. A very good goalkeeper but when he had an untimely loss of form, we had to do something about it. We've not reached that stage yet, not by a long stretch, but the goalkeeper situation is something we should all be viewing a little nervously right now as it's not as solid and reliable as it should be.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 19, 2021 20:00:36 GMT
Beyond a joke now. Every shot from distance I've been expecting that. Maybe people can realise he's completely gash now?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 19, 2021 20:02:22 GMT
That’s a routine save
Absolutely fucking toss
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Post by sensiblestokie on Oct 19, 2021 20:02:47 GMT
Both keepers are making mistakes. One is an England international and young. Get him in and let him make mistakes instead of this guy.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 19, 2021 20:10:45 GMT
Many will now observe what a few of us have been saying for months, possibly years.
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 19, 2021 20:43:29 GMT
Many will now observe what a few of us have been saying for months, possibly years. It’s worrying that we have two keepers who make regular mistakes
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 19, 2021 20:45:30 GMT
Many will now observe what a few of us have been saying for months, possibly years. It’s worrying that we have two keepers who make regular mistakes Time to give Bonham a chance?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 19, 2021 20:46:35 GMT
Routine save, just chuck it wide for corner if you can’t catch it.
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Post by tejstokie on Oct 19, 2021 20:46:37 GMT
That's Bursik in for a week or two before he has a howler. These goalkeepers can't keep shit out.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 19, 2021 20:46:39 GMT
I called for his reinstatement but I'm afraid that's too many mistakes now. Worrying that we seem to have 2 keepers who make regular mistakes. Bursik needs to come back in and see if he can find some consistency.
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 19, 2021 20:47:07 GMT
That’s a routine save Absolutely fucking toss Sunday football at best
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 19, 2021 20:47:20 GMT
I thought it was fair for Bursik to be dropped. Davies had his chances and has blown it, so back to Bursik. Hopefully he will put the necessary pressure on himself to perform better.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Oct 19, 2021 20:48:04 GMT
We’re doing well be where we are in the league, I’ve not seen our keepers make so many mistakes in one season for a while and we’re not even half way in.
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Post by potterburt on Oct 19, 2021 20:49:01 GMT
That's Bursik in for a week or two before he has a howler. These goalkeepers can't keep shit out. Tbf, can any human being ever keep shit out. Something internal will eventually explode.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 19, 2021 20:49:35 GMT
Bursik was dropped far too quickly in my opinion. Suddenly it's looking like a real issue.
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Post by march4 on Oct 19, 2021 20:50:25 GMT
Four points lost due to Davies schoolboy errors.
He needs a rest.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 19, 2021 20:51:26 GMT
That's Bursik in for a week or two before he has a howler. These goalkeepers can't keep shit out. This is my worry where it could become a revolving door where one keeper comes in, makes mistakes then the other comes in and does exactly the same thing. Worrying position because I don't have much faith in either right now.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 19, 2021 20:53:16 GMT
If you look at Davies career he often parries shots like that out to the opposing striker, this is the main reason Bayern doesn't rate him!!
I never thought Bursik should have been dropped. I think we could have sneaked a win tonight but the Davies error ruined the game
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Post by pavel on Oct 19, 2021 20:53:20 GMT
We have two decent keepers in Bursik and Davies but neither of them is the complete package. I reckon Bursik will be one day but not if he doesn't get game time. OS. Bursik would be my no1 all day every day. Davies is at a stage of his career where he's not likely to get any better and he's arguably not as good as he young challenger right now so he's no chance when Joe matures further off the back of more experience. Agree entirely and it helps no keeper if he's dropped after one mistake, poor man management from O'Neil with goalkeepers this season. He should have stuck with Bursik, he'll make the odd mistake but all round he's the better keeper, better kicking, passing and distribution, commands his area better and just need believing in. Being dropped for any mistake will do no keeper any good, especially and young keeper. Must be back next week and given a run of games.
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 19, 2021 20:53:23 GMT
Davies is shit....like a rabbit caught in the headlights, Bursik in now n keep him in.
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