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Post by followyoudown on Aug 17, 2021 21:30:33 GMT
Scumbug ? He's a fairly shit limited footballer who has been a bit of a dick not a member of the taliban ffs. If only there was a photo of him on this very page imitating terrorists. Edit - fuck 😂😂😂😂 The previous page 🤦♂️ He was trying to take the piss out of himself and people who shout IRA guff at him, incredibly crass, dickish and idiotic of him and rightly punished, that doesnt make him a scumbag but each to their own....
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 21:32:03 GMT
Gone....and no doubt will chirp up on Instagram some at some point with a view of Potteries life Honestly James, again Ive never had an issue with your ability or suchlike on the the pitch. Some days great, some days not....but that is football I suppose. However off the pitch the social media side of your life is the one thing that shows what is really wrong with football in the 21st century. If you don't like the hate, don't fan the flames. Take care If you don’t like the hate just stay quiet and hope people leave you alone? Is that what you’re suggesting?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 21:35:19 GMT
I was advocating for this to be sung in his honour during his player of the season form. Cringe.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 17, 2021 21:39:28 GMT
His last few months acting a twat pissed me off, as it undid a lot of the positive stuff. I think he’d won a lot of Stoke fans around but then went on a fuck you rampage.
I certainly don’t hate him, but he’s clearly a strong character who doesn’t really care about some of the consequences of his actions.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 21:41:04 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 21:42:31 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 21:46:11 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂 Not a defence. More a ‘who on here actually knows the bloke at all?’ As with pretty much everyone I ever met I’m sure he has his good and bad sides. Some of the shit on this thread is out of order.
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Post by erogenous on Aug 17, 2021 21:48:04 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂 Yep Saville was one of our most famous charity workers.. Not saying tyere is a link but bet jimmy saville cant cross or defend
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 17, 2021 21:48:16 GMT
One of a surprising number of players (including the ex-Liverpool trio of Allen, Crouch and Adam) who has racked up more appearances for Stoke than any other club. Deserved player of the season in 2019/20 and with hindsight a good signing amongst a shower of failures - a shame it somehow went sour earlier this year (perhaps playing for Ireland when supposedly injured was the nail in the coffin). I doubt anyone on this forum knows the real James McClean.
Methinks McClean is a very good signing for Wigan at League One level.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2021 21:51:10 GMT
Nice classy messages from him and his wife on social media, he’s a very limited footballer who generally gave his all and he’s finally off the wage bill.
Everyone’s a winner, time to move on…..
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 21:51:10 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂 Yep Saville was one of our most famous charity workers.. Not saying tyere is a link but bet jimmy saville cant cross or defend We’ll he can’t now.
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Post by boothenesque on Aug 17, 2021 21:54:12 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂 Fair point, Sr Jimmy Saville is a case in point. Boothenender, maybe you didn't really mean all that, especially the kneecapping. It sounds like you're not his biggest fan but he's gone now. There have been worse players at Stoke, taking money for not trying, that cost us more. Let's let it go now.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 17, 2021 21:56:33 GMT
Nice classy messages from him and his wife on social media, he’s a very limited footballer who generally gave his all and he’s finally off the wage bill. Everyone’s a winner, time to move on….. He's better than a "very limited footballer" - that often seems to be used on this board as some sort of backhanded compliment. Looking at social media, he seems to be popular with teammates old and recent too.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2021 21:59:06 GMT
Nice classy messages from him and his wife on social media, he’s a very limited footballer who generally gave his all and he’s finally off the wage bill. Everyone’s a winner, time to move on….. He's better than a "very limited footballer" - that often seems to be used on this board as some sort of backhanded compliment. Looking at social media, he seems to be popular with teammates old and recent too. He’s made the best of his career and fair play to him. I stand by my comment though, he’s got this far through absolute hard work and dedication but from a technical perspective he’s very limited……..
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Post by andyapotter on Aug 17, 2021 22:07:53 GMT
Looking at it from a football angle, IMO he played a key part in keeping us in the division so we only have one to get out of. Pretty sure he played through injury for us for big part of last season and didn't produce his best. Maybe one of the few that we got some sort of value from following relegation.
I'm delighted to see him gone, by the looks of it we have two better players to step up to the plate who can take us forwards.
Hoping that this is the end of it all. These days we should be able to watch a bunch of blokes kick a football around without getting so low.
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Post by robinplumpton on Aug 17, 2021 22:08:44 GMT
Complicated bloke. Then again growing up in a virtual war zone with a visible military presence and daily bloodshed probably has an impact on someone’s psyche. Then experiencing racism and vitriol from complete strangers because you have different political views. That probably has an impact too. Leaving aside all that he gave his all on the pitch which is all you can ask for. A limited footballer perhaps but certainly not a man to shirk his share of grafting. Good luck James. Would agree that his background is a difficult one. My wife also comes from (London(Derry) and has similar experiences to James Mclean, but from the opposite community. My wife has a more phlegmatic attitude (despite what the British Govt would have you believe, that the troubles are over, the organised crime in the name of sectarianism, remains). When James Mclean signed for us, I couldn't give a damn about his politics or sectarianism, he was "ours". That was easier for me to say, than some of my wife's community. Rightly, or sadly though, JM didn't leave it there with his Social Media posts. It either shows crass insensitivity or passionate belief, or, most likely.....stupidity. JM still has a home in (london/Derry) and I have been out in Northern Ireland for a holiday for the last couple of weeks, chasing the sun ( You can take a girl from Norn Ireland, but she has to return every opprtunity) A friend of my wife, has kids of a similar age to JM and his kids were invited to one of JM's kids' birthday party this weekend. He took his kids to the party and once he got there JM's wife left to go to the gym and left my wife's friend to then take charge of the party. I am sure some on here will some will say that shows JM and his family are "scum". I still thank JM more his good performances for us and still think his seeming stands for his community are ill advised if reconciliation, rather than rancour is the future. Thats easy for to me, I dont have the Norn Ireland past. Some will have something to say about his wife, I find it funny that a big hairy arsed (London/Derry) arsed farmer was left in charge of a kid's party. Thanks JM what you did for us.. despite.. and as someone once said.., "stupid is, what stupid does".
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 17, 2021 22:09:21 GMT
He's better than a "very limited footballer" - that often seems to be used on this board as some sort of backhanded compliment. Looking at social media, he seems to be popular with teammates old and recent too. He’s made the best of his career and fair play to him. I stand by my comment though, he’s got this far through absolute hard work and dedication but from a technical perspective he’s very limited…….. In his position, probably about average Championship-wise from a technical perspective? A lot better at crossing than many on this forum make out. Also, you didn't mention technique in the comment I quoted.
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Post by thicknthin on Aug 17, 2021 22:20:01 GMT
Looking at it from a football angle, IMO he played a key part in keeping us in the division so we only have one to get out of. Pretty sure he played through injury for us for big part of last season and didn't produce his best. Maybe one of the few that we got some sort of value from following relegation. I'm delighted to see him gone, by the looks of it we have two better players to step up to the plate who can take us forwards. Hoping that this is the end of it all. These days we should be able to watch a bunch of blokes kick a football around without getting so low. I’m not so sure I agree that he was integral in keeping us up, if we had taken six million quid and bought a player or two who could pass and cross the ball with better accuracy perhaps we wouldn’t have been so shit. He was no saviour he was part of the problem! Not all his fault and he did work hard but wow, what a limited player. Rowett’s whole front 3 was a disaster on every level. Would have been way better getting a player with genuine pace and sticking with Bojan and Diouf.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 22:30:47 GMT
Today is a good day for Stoke City FC.
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Post by liathroid on Aug 17, 2021 22:36:31 GMT
Today is a good day for Stoke City FC. we won
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2021 22:39:02 GMT
He’s made the best of his career and fair play to him. I stand by my comment though, he’s got this far through absolute hard work and dedication but from a technical perspective he’s very limited…….. In his position, probably about average Championship-wise from a technical perspective? A lot better at crossing than many on this forum make out. Also, you didn't mention technique in the comment I quoted. No I said he was very limited, and that is one of his absolute limitations……
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 22:43:28 GMT
Today is a good day for Stoke City FC. we won That's one reason to be happy.
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2021 22:50:23 GMT
Scumbag - a contemptible or objectionable person.
That is the definition on Google. Whether or not you feel it describes James or not is open to discussion. I can see why some would use it to describe him.
To the guy who is trying to defend James McClean because his partners from Derry. All I've got to say is there are many footballers from Derry who have featured in the top divisions from Derry and don't behave how James does.
There are even footballers such as Neil Lennon who regularly received death threats, bullets through the post and hostility and still don't behave how James McClean does.
Just because he's from Derry doesn't give any excuse for his behaviour.
The whole "anti Irish" stuff he bangs on about season after season is pathetic as well and just part of his self centred narcissist personality. Why do we not see players such as Roy Keane, Robbie Keane, Seamous Coleman, Shay Given, Damian Duff and Shane Duffy receiving this same anti Irish treatment which James often mentions? It's because none of it is "anti Irish" in anyway, it's anti James McClean and he brings it all on himself with his unprofessional behaviour which has followed him throughout his career.
It's like John Terry coming out and asking the FA for support for anti English behaviour because of the treatment he's received from fans. But at least John has enough wit about him to realise it's got nothing to do with his nationality but instead his personality and actions.
Personality aside, what I will say is. He's a courageous footballer on the pitch who battles like a lion and gives 100% and he's an excellent servant to his national team also. I can't fault him for effort as he always gives his all on the pitch and that's all you can ask for.
But anyone who comes in here and tries to defend his actions off the pitch is just as delirious as James himself. I do accept that some of the abuse he has received at times is out of line and I condemn that. However any stick he has received throughout the years is mostly down to his own actions and he needs to take accountability for that rather than always playing the victim.
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Post by andyapotter on Aug 17, 2021 22:53:51 GMT
Looking at it from a football angle, IMO he played a key part in keeping us in the division so we only have one to get out of. Pretty sure he played through injury for us for big part of last season and didn't produce his best. Maybe one of the few that we got some sort of value from following relegation. I'm delighted to see him gone, by the looks of it we have two better players to step up to the plate who can take us forwards. Hoping that this is the end of it all. These days we should be able to watch a bunch of blokes kick a football around without getting so low. I’m not so sure I agree that he was integral in keeping us up, if we had taken six million quid and bought a player or two who could pass and cross the ball with better accuracy perhaps we wouldn’t have been so shit. He was no saviour he was part of the problem! Not all his fault and he did work hard but wow, what a limited player. Rowett’s whole front 3 was a disaster on every level. Would have been way better getting a player with genuine pace and sticking with Bojan and Diouf. Limited is kind. BUT we didn't pay 6m for someone better, or play anyone else who might have done better. I really don't see him as a saviour, just think he made a reasonable footballing contribution and MON played his hand as best he could and got a decent return out of him. Glad to see him go. Hopefully the end of an era and we can all move forward in many ways.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 17, 2021 22:54:08 GMT
The only thing even remotely defensible is if those kids heard IRA chants being directed at their dad and he really was explaining history to them. (I'll give him that, he might have been)
But...going so far as to POST it on the freaking Internet where victims of the troubles can see it? (Darwin Award) So we are saying that he was actually taking the piss out of the IRA then? Well hell, lets just throw the whole family into the firing line! Take your pick, some maniac from Ireland coming in the back door while outraged Englishmen storm the front? Not real smart - better rally round the family.
This guy has consistently flirted around on the coat tails of that "revolution" with his remarks. I can see it - growing up in that hell, he could be a "sympathizer" sure. So why do you move here and hypocritically collect large paychecks from the "occupation" then James? If he's doing it out of anger at the abuse hurled at him? Pretty ridiculous to risk your family's safety for a distasteful "joke."
Maybe he didn't think that through. I don't wish him ill. Not enough information for me to make that call. I just hope he goes and finds a large collection of fools who will accept and love him, someplace other than Stoke.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 17, 2021 23:00:49 GMT
Thanks James and all the best for the future
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 17, 2021 23:06:53 GMT
Interesting to see if he gets the 'thanks for your contribution and good luck' on the official site or a more curt Wimmer/Bauer-type farewell. I'm hoping it's going to be restricted to less than 10 words. 'James McLean has left Stoke City' would be great.
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Post by onionman on Aug 17, 2021 23:18:43 GMT
James McClean’s best moment for Stoke was the time he had a knock to his leg but refused to give up and won a corner, which led to Sam Vokes scoring the winning goal in that Boxing Day game against Sheffield Wednesday.
Fair play, but I reckon if I played 100 games for Stoke I could have conjured up a moment as good as that, simply by the law of averages. And I wouldn’t have cost a 6 million quid transfer fee, millions more in wages and embarrassed everyone by continually being a prat on Twitter.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 18, 2021 3:02:55 GMT
Gone....and no doubt will chirp up on Instagram some at some point with a view of Potteries life Honestly James, again Ive never had an issue with your ability or suchlike on the the pitch. Some days great, some days not....but that is football I suppose. However off the pitch the social media side of your life is the one thing that shows what is really wrong with football in the 21st century. If you don't like the hate, don't fan the flames. Take care If you don’t like the hate just stay quiet and hope people leave you alone? Is that what you’re suggesting? Not at all. I was suggesting that some of the comments & photos posted by himself on his infamous Instagram account have cause enough of the vitriol aimed at him
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Post by Boothen on Aug 18, 2021 4:40:40 GMT
I love how charity work is like some form of defence and that horrible fuckers can’t do charity work too 😂 Not a defence. More a ‘who on here actually knows the bloke at all?’ As with pretty much everyone I ever met I’m sure he has his good and bad sides. Some of the shit on this thread is out of order. No, I'll tell you what is 'out of order'. Parading around quoting Bobby Sands on the day that the fans and club that pays you thousands of pounds a week are holding a remembrance parade in honour of those that were injured or paid the ultimate price during the two world wars and those who suffered the same fates in wars since. That is out of order. The man is a fucking knobhead of the highest order of knobheads, and I wish him all the fucking worst.
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