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Post by franklin on Jul 11, 2021 23:02:25 GMT
Kinda undermined your high moral ground there. No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. I don't understand his mentality he's doing everything he can to provoke abuse. I don't know the bloke but he's either thick or plain nasty or both.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:02:52 GMT
Kinda undermined your high moral ground there. No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. His kids were getting death threats after the balaclava episode. Why would any father but his child in danger like that?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2021 23:04:43 GMT
Missed the point Millsy ... It's not about who TOOK the penalties but the ridiculous pressure the manager put on them by bringing them on to ONLY take a penalty. I bet if you asked them privately over the next few days, they would both say they would have felt less pressure if they'd played at least some part in the match. It was the manager's call for them not to be brought on earlier. Yeah, fair enough totally see that, but i don't think it's missing the point, merely fleshing it out to it's rightful full context rather than placing all the blame on Southgate. Where are the media/fan's favourites/older pro's/actual goalscorers stepping up? I'm sorry, but for the likes of Sterling and Grealish (even Henderson) to leave it to centre backs and teenagers is fucking poor and that's on them, not the manager! As i said, one guranteed goal after Pickford's 2nd save basically wins us the Euros. If he knew (and he did) that Sterling and Grealish weren't going to be one of the first five, then the manager should have had them off earlier and replaced them with Rashford and Sancho.
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Post by independent on Jul 11, 2021 23:04:57 GMT
If we had swopped managers ,England would have won 3 or 4 nil.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2021 23:07:15 GMT
Poor kid, growing up as an Irish man wearing other nations football shirts, that's one way to learn you're nation is a Bob hoper worked on you though Winding people up on The Oatcake, what a winner. No wonder you like him. Bill Hicks he ain't. In fact he's not even Sarah Millican, at least she can put two words together
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:07:17 GMT
No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. His kids were getting death threats after the balaclava episode. Why would any father but his child in danger like that? Exactly. He gets death threats then him wearing a football shirt causes bed wetting by those dishing out the abuse. says it all
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 11, 2021 23:08:10 GMT
Kinda undermined your high moral ground there. No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. He’s already put a post on complaining about people abusing his kids. He really is thick as fuck.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 11, 2021 23:08:27 GMT
Kinda undermined your high moral ground there. No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. I agree. If you went onto my Facebook/Twitter accounts you'll see my mention my kids now and again but absolutely no photos at all and I've made members of my family take them down before. I just don't understand the need, and I'm just some no mark not a controversial character in the public eye. Not fair to his young family even though I of course condone any nonsense that gets aimed their way.......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:08:34 GMT
His kids were getting death threats after the balaclava episode. Why would any father but his child in danger like that? Exactly. He gets death threats then him wearing a football shirt causes bed wetting by those dishing out the abuse. says it all There's some sick evil people in this world and as a father you protect your children from them. I take it you don't have kids?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jul 11, 2021 23:09:23 GMT
That game changed when Jorginho faked injury in the first half. They knew they were getting run ragged & took a time out.
Mancini changed their game, Southgate had no answer. Trippier was silenced & our midfield got overran. 62% possession in the first half even though we bossed them for 20 minutes.
Second half we were way too negative. You don’t win games defending your box. So pissed off we didn’t throw caution to the wind and just run at them.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 11, 2021 23:10:07 GMT
His kids were getting death threats after the balaclava episode. Why would any father but his child in danger like that? Exactly. He gets death threats then him wearing a football shirt causes bed wetting by those dishing out the abuse. says it all The death threats and abuse that get aimed towards him and his family are utterly abhorrent. Him parading his young kids over social media however is just moronic, keep them out of the spotlight....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 23:10:35 GMT
Rashford and Sancho are two of the best attackers in world football. My issue is Sancho should have been on for Saka after the first 15 mins of extra time. And then letting Saka take one. He looked like a rabbit in the headlights all game. So many chances to avoid the situation. [ Rashford is not even one of the best attackers in Manchester he’s not in the top 4 let alone one for the best in the world Of course he is. He regularly plays for the team that finished second in one of the top 4 leagues in the world.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 11, 2021 23:12:38 GMT
Yeah, fair enough totally see that, but i don't think it's missing the point, merely fleshing it out to it's rightful full context rather than placing all the blame on Southgate. Where are the media/fan's favourites/older pro's/actual goalscorers stepping up? I'm sorry, but for the likes of Sterling and Grealish (even Henderson) to leave it to centre backs and teenagers is fucking poor and that's on them, not the manager! As i said, one guranteed goal after Pickford's 2nd save basically wins us the Euros. If he knew (and he did) that Sterling and Grealish weren't going to be one of the first five, then the manager should have had them off earlier and replaced them with Rashford and Sancho. But how do we know he did? The five they decide on in training is often not the 5 that ends up taking them after the match. Do you genuinely think he'd decided on the likes of Maguire ahead of Sterling beforehand? Yes, Maguire scored but do you seriously think he had the option of Sterling and Grealish and thought "No, the centre back and the teenagers are my men"?? You seem very insistent on placing this blame at one person's door.
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 11, 2021 23:13:07 GMT
Rice should’ve made more of that challenge he got too. It was worthy of a yellow, but he gets up and is all pally.
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Post by arniehudson on Jul 11, 2021 23:15:56 GMT
What other Manager in Europe would have Grealish, Sancho, Rashford, Foden and Saka in the squad and play none of them.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2021 23:17:49 GMT
[ Rashford is not even one of the best attackers in Manchester he’s not in the top 4 let alone one for the best in the world Of course he is. He regularly plays for the team that finished second in one of the top 4 leagues in the world. Cavani , sterling , auguero , martial , Jesus , mahrez all better and Assuming Kane goes to city to replace Aguero there’s another
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 11, 2021 23:19:43 GMT
We literally don't have the mental strength and belief to win big games, we have skill and pace and a deadly striker but we caved in to pressure and became afraid to win. Southgate has done well to make the final but we were completely outplayed and out fought by desire and belief inho by a hardworking team nothing more nothing less a team who wanted to win and would do anything to make it happen. People scoff at passion and drive but that's what our side is lacking. Gary Neville summed it up against Denmark he loved playing for Man Utd but not so much his country he wasn't bothered. I didn't see any of our side coaches or players driving the side on we're too "calm" if there is such a thing. Harsh but Southgate doesn't drive his team forward he stands there like a lemon ffs Gareth its a final get them fucking going. Baby steps. We’re getting there, this is a young squad and this experience will galvanise them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:22:02 GMT
No moral high ground here. As a father I'm absolutely stunned he's done it. I listened to him on the radio when he was complaining about the abuse he receives and how some of it is aimed at his kids, and here he is dressing one of them up on social media in an Italy shirt to get a reaction. Appalling. I don't understand his mentality he's doing everything he can to provoke abuse. I don't know the bloke but he's either thick or plain nasty or both. Probably both but more importantly he's a shit footballer and the sooner he goes the sooner these Irish trolls can fuck off too
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jul 11, 2021 23:22:07 GMT
Rice should’ve made more of that challenge he got too. It was worthy of a yellow, but he gets up and is all pally. Rice going off was a big loss,helped soak up the oressure well and the only midfielder we had who looked comfortable on the ball.What little qaulity possession we secured seemed to go through him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:22:15 GMT
Carbon copy of Croatia Was there to be won.....again Thanks for your insight👍 no probs I backed Italy back in March so pretty good insight. Won 1300 odd quid so not too bad Who did you back....Brazil?
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Post by thehoof on Jul 11, 2021 23:23:25 GMT
Of course he is. He regularly plays for the team that finished second in one of the top 4 leagues in the world. Cavani , sterling , auguero , martial , Jesus , mahrez all better and Assuming Kane goes to city to replace Aguero there’s another Martial? Your argument just went straight down the Swanee.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:23:43 GMT
no probs I backed Italy back in March so pretty good insight. Won 1300 odd quid so not too bad Who did you back....Brazil? Congratulations, you could use it to buy an imaginary ticket for the world Cup final
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Post by liathroid on Jul 11, 2021 23:26:53 GMT
I don't understand his mentality he's doing everything he can to provoke abuse. I don't know the bloke but he's either thick or plain nasty or both. Probably both but more importantly he's a shit footballer and the sooner he goes the sooner these Irish trolls can fuck off too
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 11, 2021 23:28:21 GMT
no probs I backed Italy back in March so pretty good insight. Won 1300 odd quid so not too bad Who did you back....Brazil? Congratulations, you could use it to buy an imaginary ticket for the world Cup final Don't worry mate, he's just making shit up like a troll does to justify what an utter pick he's been on every thread for the last few weeks. Don't give him the attention, he's won fuck all, he's just a basement dweller lying.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 11, 2021 23:28:21 GMT
no probs I backed Italy back in March so pretty good insight. Won 1300 odd quid so not too bad Who did you back....Brazil? We called it in May didn’t we Jesus? I must admit I cashed out earlier… gutted about the result mind:
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 11, 2021 23:28:23 GMT
Best team of the tournament won. Totally deserved imo
England had a very good tournament, and have improved massively, so don't see why anyone should be crying.
Anyone can miss a penalty, young or old.
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Post by musik on Jul 11, 2021 23:28:30 GMT
He has no Italian relatives?
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Post by erogenous on Jul 11, 2021 23:29:28 GMT
Our James used to make me angry.
Now I see him as someone who probably needs some sort of special help. I don't know the pc words but I think he must have some sort of learning difficulty and needs supporting.
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Post by franklin on Jul 11, 2021 23:30:22 GMT
We literally don't have the mental strength and belief to win big games, we have skill and pace and a deadly striker but we caved in to pressure and became afraid to win. Southgate has done well to make the final but we were completely outplayed and out fought by desire and belief inho by a hardworking team nothing more nothing less a team who wanted to win and would do anything to make it happen. People scoff at passion and drive but that's what our side is lacking. Gary Neville summed it up against Denmark he loved playing for Man Utd but not so much his country he wasn't bothered. I didn't see any of our side coaches or players driving the side on we're too "calm" if there is such a thing. Harsh but Southgate doesn't drive his team forward he stands there like a lemon ffs Gareth its a final get them fucking going. Baby steps. We’re getting there, this is a young squad and this experience will galvanise them. I hope so but I'm not sure Gareth has it in him I just hope Saka doesn't get too downhearted he didn't deserve to be hung out there tonight on that pen. We will never have a better chance in the next 55yrs to win a major tournament. Its the hope that kills you 😔
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 23:30:23 GMT
Can that Football is coming home cease from now on? It's getting cringe worthy.
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