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Post by Han Solo on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:22 GMT
Southgate has taken all the applause for getting us here but deserves all the shit he’ll get for blowing the final. The decision to put on 2 penalty takers with 30 secs to go was a shocker. They needed more time to get into the game and Sako shouldn’t have taken the pen. Where were the more experienced players.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:22 GMT
Proud of this team, this is still a fantastic achievement, we are only going to get better. This is a great time to be an English football supporter Great if you like coming second best. Southgate should be sacked immediately. Silly boy.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:24 GMT
Hard-luck guys, obviously good leagues make good national teams, and most of the players are young enough to compete for the upcoming 7-8 years.
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Post by yyy on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:38 GMT
Them medals look like under 12s Sunday league Don't know why our lot took them off straight away, the rest of Europe went home without anything
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:39 GMT
Why can't the fuckers on TV say, Southgate fucked up! Do you really want them to go into full tabloid witch-hunt mode? We could have The Sun tomorrow with a big headline saying ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE with pictures of Rashford, Saka and Sancho.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:50 GMT
So proud of this country James McClean can fuck off the wanker Watching our penalties was like watching his crosses for Stoke over the last 2 years.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 11, 2021 22:14:58 GMT
Southgate badly mishandled this one but that doesn’t negate his achievements in getting us here.
Rashford should spend more time on football and less on pretending to be a politician.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:04 GMT
I'm obviously very disappointed to lose so I need to give careful thought to what I am feeling but I feel the game in the end was lost because of decisions made at management level. Firstly our performance in the first half was good! Why did they change the shape of the team? Shaw and Trippier were causing Italy so many problems. The second half was a mess and Saka was very poor. I thought he couldn't cope with the experience he was given. We did well to get to penalties. The decision to give penalty responsibilities to Saka and Sancho was diabolical. Then to give Saka the fifth penalty was just unforgivable. We have taken a major step forward in this tournament and the players have done us proud. Southgate did not cope with the pressure of the final in my opinion just as he didn't cope with the pressure in his career!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:13 GMT
Proud of this team, this is still a fantastic achievement, we are only going to get better. This is a great time to be an English football supporter Great if you like coming second best. Southgate should be sacked immediately. 2nd best is a massive step up from where we were before
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Post by salopstick on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:13 GMT
Fallen at the final hurdle disappointed to be wrong but done by Southgates bottle again 1 Lack of positive approach throughout 2 subs late and appalling lack of trust in flair has cost us again 2 penalty subs of atrocious School dinners and sancho disasterous But the gutless way they let sakka take the last one is utterly ridiculous captain of Liverpool 30+ walks off Man City 2 premier league winners still on the pitch and the Baby is scheduled to take penalty 5 Still it’s over now and on to the real stuff on 7th August . Agree with most of that. Can’t blame Henderson though.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:16 GMT
now now Luxembourg.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:19 GMT
Playing for pens was never a good idea with that keeper.
I'd rather they'd made changes at 65 mins and gone for it and lost by doing so.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:39 GMT
Sunday league penos , wtf was rashford thinking of I said after the europa league final that Rashford was finished as a player. He's been gone for months and months.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 11, 2021 22:16:15 GMT
James McClean Will boo the wanker regardless next year Wrong thread I think...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:16:51 GMT
Calling the bloke who has got us to our first major final in 55 years a "fucking clown" is harsh in my book. I'm as pissed off as anyone tonight, but the amount of vitriol being thrown at Southgate already is fucking pathetic. Thing is Vince he’s taken the credit for the tactical master class against Germany ( which it was), but he has tactically f***** it up tonight. Mount was a passenger and we have 105 minutes of him- he brings on two players to take penalties who have had no chance to get into the game and bringing on Saka as the first sub ( never mind asking the poor guy to take the 5th penalty)- Saka looked like a rabbit in headlights the whole game ( mind you he was marginally better than Henderson ) Spot on, as long as it doesn't turn abusive, Southgate should absolutely carry the can. Never reacted to that first sub, which changed the course of the game completely. Mount on too long as you say and the absolute key brain fart was bringing on two lads who have hardly kicked a ball for a month or so for penalties. They might never recover mentally from that. Mancini has just absolutely schooled him tonight and he had absolutely no answer.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 11, 2021 22:17:01 GMT
Where are players like Sterling/Grealish et al when it comes to pens? Why are we leaving it to defenders and younger players still??
Fucking gutted
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:17:32 GMT
Why can't the fuckers on TV say, Southgate fucked up! Ludicrous decisions. Croatia again . Early lead then no idea Great tournament. Best team in the tournament by a margin beat 2nd best team and deservedly so let's be honest. Nothing to get lairy etc about. The way it was. Great effort by England but Italy just deserved winners
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2021 22:18:11 GMT
We barely had a kick after the first 10 minutes.
Thinking just lucky we didn't play Spain who played Italy off the park in the previous round and somehow contrived to lose.
I really wasn't expecting that at all, the match stats must look like a real car crash.
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Post by liathroid on Jul 11, 2021 22:18:15 GMT
Why do you support an English club? Learn some class or fuck off 50 years supporting Stoke and read alot of posts on here about what a lot was said of other teams
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Post by Goonie on Jul 11, 2021 22:18:41 GMT
Oh well
Wouldn't be England if we won on penos (sigh) 😰
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:11 GMT
We should have learned our lesson from Portugal in Euro 2008 when it comes to bringing players on to specifically take penalties.
It. Never. Works.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:20 GMT
Yep. Italy superior in all departments. God effort but not good enough
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Post by David Brent on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:31 GMT
James McClean Will boo the wanker regardless next year Wrong thread I think... Don’t think so
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Post by liathroid on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:40 GMT
Hope you had fun tonight, I wish I was this excited when Luxembourg beat Ireland we have a poor side atm , but hopefully we will get better
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:54 GMT
Hope you had fun tonight, I wish I was this excited when Luxembourg beat Ireland He's a sad teenage prick (mentally if nothing else) ignore him. Sad that people like him have nothog else to revel in than other people's defeats because they have zero chance of winning fuck all themselves. Classless and smalltime, let him show himself up
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Post by questionable on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:54 GMT
100% let Italy off the hook there, basically dropped 10 yards in the second half and relied on errr absolutely nothing whatsoever, shocking, shocking decision Southgate.
We had absolutely no idea what to do, I’m trying really hard not to blame Southgate and enjoy the occasion and actually reaching a final but for the life of me their CB’s have a combined age of 71 so we punted the ball up to them and let them defend on the half way line.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:58 GMT
Why can't the fuckers on TV say, Southgate fucked up! Ludicrous decisions. Croatia again . Early lead then no idea Great tournament. Best team in the tournament by a margin beat 2nd best team and deservedly so let's be honest. Nothing to get lairy etc about. The way it was. Great effort by England but Italy just deserved winners Accurate 👍🎯 Still a shame though
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 11, 2021 22:20:20 GMT
Southgate - that’s on you. You fucking clown. Harsh No its not... Defeat is on Southgate shoulders tonight...Well and truly bottled it and managed the game appallingly
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2021 22:20:39 GMT
Why do you support an English club? Learn some class or fuck off 50 years supporting Stoke and read alot of posts on here about what a lot was said of other teams You're supporting an English team. As I say, learn some class or go and watch Celtic. No one asked you to support Stoke Well done Italy btw
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Post by george2again on Jul 11, 2021 22:20:55 GMT
Southgate has taken all the applause for getting us here but deserves all the shit he’ll get for blowing the final. Have to agree. Nervous and negative all the way through and his management of the final absolutely shocking from start to finish.
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