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Post by FullerMagic on May 24, 2022 9:46:16 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this young Blackburn RB was one of them, given our head of academy recruitment has only just left Blackburn www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20160587.ryan-nyambe-future-key-blackburn-rovers-recruitment-plan/Dan Pike enjoyed a positive loan spell with National League North side AFC Fylde, and will be looking to push on next season, while scholar Jay Haddow has been offered a professional contract. A Championship side are particularly keen on the 18-year-old, whose future is in the balance,
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2022 10:03:42 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this young Blackburn RB was one of them, given our head of academy recruitment has only just left Blackburn www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20160587.ryan-nyambe-future-key-blackburn-rovers-recruitment-plan/Dan Pike enjoyed a positive loan spell with National League North side AFC Fylde, and will be looking to push on next season, while scholar Jay Haddow has been offered a professional contract. A Championship side are particularly keen on the 18-year-old, whose future is in the balance, Blackburn have a cracking youth team
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Post by femark on May 24, 2022 11:16:29 GMT
They’ll need it. What an odd way to go about it. The current crop are clearly not good enough, so we've gone out and scouted others?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 11:18:53 GMT
They’ll need it. What an odd way to go about it. The current crop are clearly not good enough, so we've gone out and scouted others? Aren't they?
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Post by femark on May 24, 2022 13:55:12 GMT
The current crop are clearly not good enough, so we've gone out and scouted others? Aren't they? The management team have decided they're not. Lets see where they end up next season.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 24, 2022 14:12:31 GMT
The current crop are clearly not good enough, so we've gone out and scouted others? Aren't they? They’ve cracked under the pressure of the race twice in a row. They do look like a decent side, but is there anything wrong in looking elsewhere to bring in players who are better where we need it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 14:16:02 GMT
They’ve cracked under the pressure of the race twice in a row. They do look like a decent side, but is there anything wrong in looking elsewhere to bring in players who are better where we need it? No of course not but you have 3/4 players that will be released that are still a bit too young to know one way or the other. Like I can't believe Max Murphy is still only 20 and we released him. That was a while ago but it just doesn't make sense. The play off results are neither here nor there imo.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 16:31:03 GMT
He was one I was told by the person who told me about Tezgel to Chelsea. Coates, Macari and Porter (but we knew that one already) too. Where's Nathan Lowe heading to ? Him and Tezgel are our prize assets coming through. This is me putting a tin foil hat on and probably seeing something where there's nothing. On his insta the only big 6 club he follows is Man Yoo. His agents today posted a congratulations to him, the picture was of him against Man Yoo. I'm a cynical fucker.....
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Post by cvillestokie on May 24, 2022 22:03:28 GMT
They’ve cracked under the pressure of the race twice in a row. They do look like a decent side, but is there anything wrong in looking elsewhere to bring in players who are better where we need it? No of course not but you have 3/4 players that will be released that are still a bit too young to know one way or the other. Like I can't believe Max Murphy is still only 20 and we released him. That was a while ago but it just doesn't make sense. The play off results are neither here nor there imo. What age do you think we should release players? Murphy is playing (sometimes) in the Irish league since his departure, it's hardly like he's gone on to prove us wrong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 22:13:54 GMT
No of course not but you have 3/4 players that will be released that are still a bit too young to know one way or the other. Like I can't believe Max Murphy is still only 20 and we released him. That was a while ago but it just doesn't make sense. The play off results are neither here nor there imo. What age do you think we should release players? Murphy is playing (sometimes) in the Irish league since his departure, it's hardly like he's gone on to prove us wrong. 21 for certain players. It just seems to be a bit too soon for some of these especially someone like Porter.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 24, 2022 22:53:34 GMT
What age do you think we should release players? Murphy is playing (sometimes) in the Irish league since his departure, it's hardly like he's gone on to prove us wrong. 21 for certain players. It just seems to be a bit too soon for some of these especially someone like Porter. Isn’t that stifling their opportunities to create a career elsewhere though? It seems an arbitrary age cut off. Surely it should be on an individual basis? I am surprised that Porter was let go personally. I’d expected him to get a loan next season to see how he would fair.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 22:55:45 GMT
21 for certain players. It just seems to be a bit too soon for some of these especially someone like Porter. Isn’t that stifling their opportunities to create a career elsewhere though? It seems an arbitrary age cut off. Surely it should be on an individual basis? I am surprised that Porter was let go personally. I’d expected him to get a loan next season to see how he would fair. Not really. And it should be we seem to be doing exactly that? There’s no good reason to let Macari, Jarrett, Coates and Porter go. If anything seems a bit cost cutting?
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Post by gaznandi on May 24, 2022 23:30:09 GMT
Isn’t that stifling their opportunities to create a career elsewhere though? It seems an arbitrary age cut off. Surely it should be on an individual basis? I am surprised that Porter was let go personally. I’d expected him to get a loan next season to see how he would fair. Not really. And it should be we seem to be doing exactly that? There’s no good reason to let Macari, Jarrett, Coates and Porter go. If anything seems a bit cost cutting? Is it cost cutting if we're replacing them? (As mentioned others being brought in from other teams)
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 23:35:10 GMT
Not really. And it should be we seem to be doing exactly that? There’s no good reason to let Macari, Jarrett, Coates and Porter go. If anything seems a bit cost cutting? Is it cost cutting if we're replacing them? (As mentioned others being brought in from other teams) Depends on their quality and age doesn’t it? Freebies released as 18 year olds from their scholarships doesn’t scream like a like for like replacement.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 25, 2022 0:36:28 GMT
Isn’t that stifling their opportunities to create a career elsewhere though? It seems an arbitrary age cut off. Surely it should be on an individual basis? I am surprised that Porter was let go personally. I’d expected him to get a loan next season to see how he would fair. Not really. And it should be we seem to be doing exactly that? There’s no good reason to let Macari, Jarrett, Coates and Porter go. If anything seems a bit cost cutting? Have any of them managed to do anything on loan or attract a decent loan anywhere? No. Will anyone of them be earning much money. No. Perhaps we just let them go because they aren’t anywhere near the standard they’d need to be to make the step up to the Championship?
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Post by liathroid on May 25, 2022 14:57:06 GMT
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Post by jokker on May 25, 2022 15:46:44 GMT
Not really. And it should be we seem to be doing exactly that? There’s no good reason to let Macari, Jarrett, Coates and Porter go. If anything seems a bit cost cutting? Have any of them managed to do anything on loan or attract a decent loan anywhere? No. Will anyone of them be earning much money. No. Perhaps we just let them go because they aren’t anywhere near the standard they’d need to be to make the step up to the Championship? Or perhaps they leave because scfc didn't try hard enough to train them into competitive players at the proper level. The players were never really backed. Compare Brown to Porter, for instance. Not many saw much purpose to Jacob when he arrived but he was given 40 chances to play league games last season. How many chances to do the same for Porter? None.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 25, 2022 17:30:53 GMT
Have any of them managed to do anything on loan or attract a decent loan anywhere? No. Will anyone of them be earning much money. No. Perhaps we just let them go because they aren’t anywhere near the standard they’d need to be to make the step up to the Championship? Or perhaps they leave because scfc didn't try hard enough to train them into competitive players at the proper level. The players were never really backed. Compare Brown to Porter, for instance. Not many saw much purpose to Jacob when he arrived but he was given 40 chances to play league games last season. How many chances to do the same for Porter? None. I’m tired of this conversation with you. It doesn’t go anywhere.
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Post by tachyon on May 25, 2022 18:20:04 GMT
Not many saw much purpose to Jacob when he arrived Apart from the 3568 minutes of Championship football in 19/20 alone at Barnsley, the 1.4 chances created for team mates per full game, the 0.22 xG per full game and the 2.1 attempts on goal per full game. If you set that kind of benchmark, you get opportunities.
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Post by gaznandi on May 25, 2022 18:43:34 GMT
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Post by liathroid on May 26, 2022 10:03:34 GMT
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Post by bhp on May 26, 2022 11:32:02 GMT
Where's Nathan Lowe heading to ? Him and Tezgel are our prize assets coming through. This is me putting a tin foil hat on and probably seeing something where there's nothing. On his insta the only big 6 club he follows is Man Yoo. His agents today posted a congratulations to him, the picture was of him against Man Yoo. I'm a cynical fucker..... From what I’m aware, Lowe will stay on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2022 11:33:07 GMT
This is me putting a tin foil hat on and probably seeing something where there's nothing. On his insta the only big 6 club he follows is Man Yoo. His agents today posted a congratulations to him, the picture was of him against Man Yoo. I'm a cynical fucker..... From what I’m aware, Lowe will stay on. I hope so!
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Post by bhp on May 26, 2022 11:39:14 GMT
U18 Squad GK - Conor Robson GK - Xander ParkeGK - Tommy Simkin DF - Iffy Udanoh DF - David Okagbue DF - Jake Cartwright DF - Mark Chidi DF - Josh RoneyDF - Max Asplin DF - Tom Curl DF - Logan Laird DF - Taylor McMahon DF/MF - Luke Wilson MF - Sam Knowles MF - George Lewis MF - Charlie Edwards MF - Ted Cargill MF - Josh IrelandMF - Jack Griffiths MF - Charlie Leybourn FW - Ryan Malbon FW - Shilo WaldoFW - Justin Iwobi FW - Matty Lusakueno First Year Second Year From what Ive been told the only one of the names in red to be offered a pro deal is Okagbue. The rest have been released. In my opinion, Okagbue definitely worth a deal. Knowles and Udanoh worth one, possibly Lewis too. Only ones really, Malbon and Cartwright suffered injuries. But yes not many pros offered
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Post by bhp on May 26, 2022 11:40:09 GMT
From what I’m aware, Lowe will stay on. I hope so! Confident you know who will also!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2022 11:45:14 GMT
From what Ive been told the only one of the names in red to be offered a pro deal is Okagbue. The rest have been released. In my opinion, Okagbue definitely worth a deal. Knowles and Udanoh worth one, possibly Lewis too. Only ones really, Malbon and Cartwright suffered injuries. But yes not many pros offered I like the look of Knowles and would be shocked if we didn't give him a deal but he hasn't been used up in the 23s much so it doesn't seem likely. I was definitely told "only the centre half" has been offered a pro deal from the second years though so I'm presuming that's Okagbue as he's the only one that has been played up from that year. It'll be interesting to see the quality of the back fill. And tbh how many of the u18s/u16s step up. Lowe for instance if he stays could be a regular for the 23s next season, Bickerton who I think will be a first year scholar should be playing in it too regularly. Griffiths in it if he isn't on loan.
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Post by jokker on May 26, 2022 14:13:06 GMT
Not many saw much purpose to Jacob when he arrived Apart from the 3568 minutes of Championship football in 19/20 alone at Barnsley, the 1.4 chances created for team mates per full game, the 0.22 xG per full game and the 2.1 attempts on goal per full game. If you set that kind of benchmark, you get opportunities. And if from 0 games you have 0 xG this is seen as a personal fault apparently. Like it couldn't possibly be the club's coaching policy that is wrong...
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Post by tachyon on May 26, 2022 14:33:47 GMT
Apart from the 3568 minutes of Championship football in 19/20 alone at Barnsley, the 1.4 chances created for team mates per full game, the 0.22 xG per full game and the 2.1 attempts on goal per full game. If you set that kind of benchmark, you get opportunities. And if from 0 games you have 0 xG this is seen as a personal fault apparently. Like it couldn't possibly be the club's coaching policy that is wrong... Brown vs Porter is a false equivalence.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2022 14:16:22 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/2022/may/27/potters-announce-retained-list/Elsewhere, six members of the U23s squad are to be released – Robbie Hemfrey, Kieran Coates, Adam Porter, Patrick Jarrett, Christian Norton and Max McCarthy. Contract extensions have been offered to Matthew Baker, Lewis Macari, Gabriel Adebambo, Ibrahima Sy, Douglas Taylor and Will Goodwin. At U18s level, second-year scholars Xander Parke, Conor Robson, Jake Cartwright, Ifeanyi Udanoh, Ted Cargill, Samuel Knowles, Shilo Waldo, Kian Knott, Ryanjay Malbon and Joshua Waite will depart. Meanwhile, David Okagbue and George Lewis have been offered professional contracts. Tommy Simkin signed his first professional deal with the Club in April.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2022 14:36:45 GMT
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