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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 24, 2021 23:05:33 GMT
WARNING: SPOILER ALERT, please don't read this post if you intend on seeing the film. It's very difficult to answer your questions, without going into the specifics of the film, hence the spoiler alert for others. What was there new that we learnt about Livia and Jnr, I didn't pick up on anything? Indeed I thought it was quite disingenuous how they posed the possibility that Harold might have been responsible for the hit on Dickie before the reveal of it actually being Jnr. We ALREADY knew (from the Sopranos) that it was Jnr. and furthermore we already knew WHO carried out the hit (Tony tells this to Chris in the car outside the diner), so I found that story arc very strange. As for Paulie, Silvio and Pussy, they seemed to be there as nothing more than token gestures, it was a bit like being on a Sopranos fair ground ride where you get given fleeting glimpses of all your favourite characters popping up on cue. What this film underlined more than ever, is that the brilliance of the Sopranos was built on a foundation of fantastic character development and you're simply not going to achieve that in 2hrs. Talking of which, I was shocked at how short the running time was, I was anticipating it to be something in the region of 3+ hrs. Where was the humour, where was the emotion, where was the affinity to the characters, all absent and all key pillars on which the Sopranos success was built on? And the Dickie story was just lame. The scene of him coaching the blind baseball players, in an attempt to portray him as some kind of troubled man, who was a nasty piece of shit but who actually at the same time had some positive character traits, was just vomit inducing, it was like somebody TRYING to make a Sopranos movie but actually failing, miserably. They knew what the ingredients were supposed to be but had absolutely no idea on how to bake that cake. SPOILER ALERT: Well, they pretty much confirmed Junior was gay in the movie. And I don’t remember him being responsible for Dickie in the series. As for Livia, I just liked the development of her being a manic depressive throughout her life and her earlier relationship with Tony. Johnny Boy was sold down the river in terms of development, the others were tokens like you say. Really? Please, elaborate. Yep, Johnny Boy's (non) development was a real disappointment. As soon as the idea of Many Saints was first mooted and from the trailers and snippets that we were ultimately fed, I thought the film was going to be about Johnny Boy and his relationship with young Tony, yet (sadly) there was virtually nothing of this. I was expecting to see Tony's first murder in 1982 and the dynamic between him and his father which led to it, yet the film ended in 1973 and we found out absolutely nothing about Tony's rise through the ranks of the family.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 25, 2021 2:01:28 GMT
SPOILER ALERT: Well, they pretty much confirmed Junior was gay in the movie. And I don’t remember him being responsible for Dickie in the series. As for Livia, I just liked the development of her being a manic depressive throughout her life and her earlier relationship with Tony. Johnny Boy was sold down the river in terms of development, the others were tokens like you say. Really? Please, elaborate. Yep, Johnny Boy's (non) development was a real disappointment. As soon as the idea of Many Saints was first mooted and from the trailers and snippets that we were ultimately fed, I thought the film was going to be about Johnny Boy and his relationship with young Tony, yet (sadly) there was virtually nothing of this. I was expecting to see Tony's first murder in 1982 and the dynamic between him and his father which led to it, yet the film ended in 1973 and we found out absolutely nothing about Tony's rise through the ranks of the family. As mentioned earlier, this film was mostly the story of Dickie Moltisanti. There’s clearly a sequel to this prequel in mind to take forward the rise of Tony Soprano. Btw, I also don't get the Junior is gay but I have missed something. One thing I didn’t miss is Junior is a fruit cake.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 25, 2021 6:16:34 GMT
Really? Please, elaborate. Yep, Johnny Boy's (non) development was a real disappointment. As soon as the idea of Many Saints was first mooted and from the trailers and snippets that we were ultimately fed, I thought the film was going to be about Johnny Boy and his relationship with young Tony, yet (sadly) there was virtually nothing of this. I was expecting to see Tony's first murder in 1982 and the dynamic between him and his father which led to it, yet the film ended in 1973 and we found out absolutely nothing about Tony's rise through the ranks of the family. As mentioned earlier, this film was mostly the story of Dickie Moltisanti. There’s clearly a sequel to this prequel in mind to take forward the rise of Tony Soprano. Btw, I also don't get the Junior is gay but I have missed something. One thing I didn’t miss is Junior is a fruit cake. I didn't get the Junior is gay comment when I read it last night. He went ape shit in the series when a female acquaintance exposed him for being a giver of oral sex rather than a receiver. I think the episode with the fall exposes the reason for him needing to do this. It's just a theory. I'd hope to see this as a prequel to a new series showing Anthony becoming Tony and the obvious chaos that ensues. Sadly I don't see it happening. There were 4 of us in the cinema yesterday, it just won't draw the audience to demand it.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 25, 2021 9:43:12 GMT
SPOILER ALERT: Well, they pretty much confirmed Junior was gay in the movie. And I don’t remember him being responsible for Dickie in the series. As for Livia, I just liked the development of her being a manic depressive throughout her life and her earlier relationship with Tony. Johnny Boy was sold down the river in terms of development, the others were tokens like you say. Really? Please, elaborate. Yep, Johnny Boy's (non) development was a real disappointment. As soon as the idea of Many Saints was first mooted and from the trailers and snippets that we were ultimately fed, I thought the film was going to be about Johnny Boy and his relationship with young Tony, yet (sadly) there was virtually nothing of this. I was expecting to see Tony's first murder in 1982 and the dynamic between him and his father which led to it, yet the film ended in 1973 and we found out absolutely nothing about Tony's rise through the ranks of the family. To me it was heavily insinuated. Paulie and the guys were breaking balls over his girl always having a migraine. Then later in his back brace, his comare (goomar) clearly says the words ‘any excuse not to fuck’ to him, when he struggles to have sex. That along with how he was of course renowned for going down on women in the series - he basically can’t get it up. You might think that reads like a theory but I’m 99% certain it’s true. It’s classic show don’t tell from a screenwriter and he had way more screen time than the rest of the sideshow characters. Also, cannot remember them revealing who actually killed Dickie in the series? I thought that shadowed figure might have been Mikey Palmice, which would tie in with him getting whacked by Christopher.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 25, 2021 10:01:26 GMT
Really? Please, elaborate. Yep, Johnny Boy's (non) development was a real disappointment. As soon as the idea of Many Saints was first mooted and from the trailers and snippets that we were ultimately fed, I thought the film was going to be about Johnny Boy and his relationship with young Tony, yet (sadly) there was virtually nothing of this. I was expecting to see Tony's first murder in 1982 and the dynamic between him and his father which led to it, yet the film ended in 1973 and we found out absolutely nothing about Tony's rise through the ranks of the family. To me it was heavily insinuated. Paulie and the guys were breaking balls over his girl always having a migraine. Then later in his back brace, his comare (goomar) clearly says the words ‘any excuse not to fuck’ to him, when he struggles to have sex. That along with how he was of course renowned for going down on women in the series - he basically can’t get it up. You might think that reads like a theory but I’m 99% certain it’s true. It’s classic show don’t tell from a screenwriter and he had way more screen time than the rest of the sideshow characters. Also, cannot remember them revealing who actually killed Dickie in the series? I thought that shadowed figure might have been Mikey Palmice, which would tie in with him getting whacked by Christopher. I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that Juniors impotence means that he's gay but fair enough. It was the bent detective who whacked Dickie (I can't remember his name, Barry something?), Tony tells this to Christopher in the car outside the diner and then Christopher goes and whacks him, you hear the copper say "I'm sorry" as he's being shot.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 25, 2021 10:06:01 GMT
To me it was heavily insinuated. Paulie and the guys were breaking balls over his girl always having a migraine. Then later in his back brace, his comare (goomar) clearly says the words ‘any excuse not to fuck’ to him, when he struggles to have sex. That along with how he was of course renowned for going down on women in the series - he basically can’t get it up. You might think that reads like a theory but I’m 99% certain it’s true. It’s classic show don’t tell from a screenwriter and he had way more screen time than the rest of the sideshow characters. Also, cannot remember them revealing who actually killed Dickie in the series? I thought that shadowed figure might have been Mikey Palmice, which would tie in with him getting whacked by Christopher. I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that Juniors impotence means that he's gay but fair enough. It was the bent detective who whacked Dickie (I can't remember his name, Barry something?), Tony tells this to Christopher in the car outside the diner and then Christopher goes and whacks him, you hear the copper say "I'm sorry" as he's being shot. It’s the classic way of showing an audience without having him kiss a bloke. Never married, they talk about that quite a lot in the series.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 25, 2021 17:40:18 GMT
The Suicide Squad. Good fun and worth catching at the cinema. 7/10 Just watched at the local ghetto cinema, it gets films late but tickets only $2.50 before 6 pm. Agree with your review
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 26, 2021 15:49:21 GMT
Strongly recommend The Alpinist.
Amazing person. Amazing photography. I was getting vertigo just watching this guy free solo up frozen waterfalls.
9.5/10
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Post by thevoid on Sept 26, 2021 16:21:32 GMT
Saw a good one the other day, Brawl in Cell Block 99 with Vince Vaughn
It's brutal- it's like a love letter to 70s grindhouse/exploitation films with a soul soundtrack to match. Definitely has a few nods to Tarantino too
There's a kill scene in it that's not far off The Mountain destroying Oberon's face in Game of Thrones so be warned.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 29, 2021 15:14:05 GMT
Bond at midnight then.
Rave reviews so far, I've seen a lot of five stars apart from a grumpy little feminist from The Independent.
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Post by flea79 on Sept 29, 2021 16:06:31 GMT
Bond at midnight then. Rave reviews so far, I've seen a lot of five stars apart from a grumpy little feminist from The Independent. i have the ultimate spoiler, i was so tempted earlier to ruin it for everybody but thought better of it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 22:57:34 GMT
Bit late, but a thread called "Film 2021" needs this
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 30, 2021 2:55:11 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit.
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Post by lordb on Sept 30, 2021 7:25:20 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. Was the grumpy feminist right then?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 30, 2021 7:35:02 GMT
Saw a good one the other day, Brawl in Cell Block 99 with Vince Vaughn It's brutal- it's like a love letter to 70s grindhouse/exploitation films with a soul soundtrack to match. Definitely has a few nods to Tarantino too There's a kill scene in it that's not far off The Mountain destroying Oberon's face in Game of Thrones so be warned. Looks good Voidy. Is it on Netflix?
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 30, 2021 7:56:11 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. Brief and to the point 👍 who needs that idiot Kermode.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 30, 2021 9:24:52 GMT
Saw a good one the other day, Brawl in Cell Block 99 with Vince Vaughn It's brutal- it's like a love letter to 70s grindhouse/exploitation films with a soul soundtrack to match. Definitely has a few nods to Tarantino too There's a kill scene in it that's not far off The Mountain destroying Oberon's face in Game of Thrones so be warned. Looks good Voidy. Is it on Netflix? I watched it on Sky, not sure about Netflix
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 30, 2021 9:35:03 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. Brief and to the point 👍 who needs that idiot Kermode. It’s not Kermode you need to worry about, it’s his colleague Pete Bradshaw. That bloke sniffs glue. Quite frequently hands five stars out to terrible films like this one.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 30, 2021 9:45:56 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. Was the grumpy feminist right then? Her review is mostly accurate apart from the bit that made me say that. ‘And despite Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s much-publicised contributions to the film’s script, No Time to Die hardly feels like the radical feminist rewrite we were promised.’ I think that’s a massive discredit to PWB. Her talent extends beyond giving things a feminist rewrite, she was brought in for much more (and failed). Also, I have no problem whatsoever with feminism, I just don’t care for that particular brand of feminism that seeks to make everything about feminism.
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Post by meggeth on Sept 30, 2021 15:25:07 GMT
Bond at midnight then. Rave reviews so far, I've seen a lot of five stars apart from a grumpy little feminist from The Independent. Man, I was googling for a film called "Bond at Midnight" then suddenly realised..... 🙄
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Post by andystokey on Sept 30, 2021 21:48:55 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. I thought it was great, opinions eh? 😎
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 30, 2021 23:01:06 GMT
Just got in bed after midnight Bond. What a crock of shit. I thought it was great, opinions eh? 😎 I thought the first hour was fantastic. The action was too. The story goes awol in the second act and by the end the only I thing I cared about was it being Daniel Craig swan song.
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Post by andystokey on Oct 1, 2021 6:57:59 GMT
I thought it was great, opinions eh? 😎 I thought the first hour was fantastic. The action was too. The story goes awol in the second act and by the end the only I thing I cared about was it being Daniel Craig swan song. They're often better 2nd watch and you must have been tired, it's a long film especially to keep going to 3am. I love all the "easter eggs" from previous Bond's. It also now makes sense why they didn't release it, not completely money related. I just have no one to talk about it with because I'm not allowed to spoil it.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 14, 2021 6:54:16 GMT
Finally went to see No Time To Die.
It’s everything you’d expect from a Bond film generally and a Daniel Craig one specifically. Meaning lots of action scenes, gadgets, location shoots and facially disfigured baddies as well as plenty of extended pauses when we see James Bond’s more human side and lots of nods to the past including old school Aston Martins and “We have all the time in the world” mentions.
Anyway, it’s a romp (mostly) and good fun (mostly).
I enjoyed it.
But I wouldn’t watch it again.
7/10
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 17, 2021 16:14:56 GMT
After Bond pretty much filled the screen schedules for the past couple of weeks, nice to see some new films out.
Like, The Last Duel, for example. And it’s a pretty good film. Certainly overlong, but it has the big plus of the superb Jodie Comer and a superb fight sequence at the end, the aforementioned, titular Last Duel. Matt Damon and Adam Driver are ok. Leastways compared to Ms Comer.
7/10
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 22, 2021 5:34:44 GMT
Dune.
A bit slow and film-wanky like the new Blade Runner, but while Blade Runner felt dragged out, this was sumptuous.
I loved it, maybe favourite cinema trip since Mad Max. 9/10.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 22, 2021 5:36:05 GMT
Oh yeah speaking of film wankery I also watched the Green Knight the other week.
Was alright I guess, too slow and artsy for my taste. 4/10, but some will really dig it.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 22, 2021 10:15:21 GMT
Dune. A bit slow and film-wanky like the new Blade Runner, but while Blade Runner felt dragged out, this was sumptuous. I loved it, maybe favourite cinema trip since Mad Max. 9/10. I saw this yesterday and also made the connection with Blade Runner which, I subsequently discovered, makes perfect sense as the same director did both films. Like you I thought Dune was better paced than the new Blade Runner, but that ain’t saying much. That Bladerunner was a bore fest. But, I thought Dune suffered from poor dialogue and not enough plot and character development with too much emphasis on cinematography - both sound and vision. In other words, a feast for the eyes and ears but not enough for the brain which is a bit exhausting for 2 and 1/2 + hours. 6/10
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2021 11:09:06 GMT
Dune. A bit slow and film-wanky like the new Blade Runner, but while Blade Runner felt dragged out, this was sumptuous. I loved it, maybe favourite cinema trip since Mad Max. 9/10. I saw this yesterday and also made the connection with Blade Runner which, I subsequently discovered, makes perfect sense as the same director did both films. Like you I thought Dune was better paced than the new Blade Runner, but that ain’t saying much. That Bladerunner was a bore fest. But, I thought Dune suffered from poor dialogue and not enough plot and character development with too much emphasis on cinematography - both sound and vision. In other words, a feast for the eyes and ears but not enough for the brain which is a bit exhausting for 2 and 1/2 + hours. 6/10 I really enjoyed the Bladerunner sequel but I didn't watch it for plot reasons just to enjoy how it looked & sounded > wouldn't have enjoyed it had not watched it on the big screen
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 22, 2021 16:14:50 GMT
Dune. A bit slow and film-wanky like the new Blade Runner, but while Blade Runner felt dragged out, this was sumptuous. I loved it, maybe favourite cinema trip since Mad Max. 9/10. I saw this yesterday and also made the connection with Blade Runner which, I subsequently discovered, makes perfect sense as the same director did both films. Like you I thought Dune was better paced than the new Blade Runner, but that ain’t saying much. That Bladerunner was a bore fest. But, I thought Dune suffered from poor dialogue and not enough plot and character development with too much emphasis on cinematography - both sound and vision. In other words, a feast for the eyes and ears but not enough for the brain which is a bit exhausting for 2 and 1/2 + hours. 6/10 I'm guessing you never read the book mate? I completely understand where you're coming from. A lot of my enjoyment was seeing how he hinted at a lot of the story and took time to paint a picture of things that were a big deal in the books. I really love the first Dune book and want people to share that joy, but I 100% get it that it's not to everyone's taste, which makes me a bit sad. I'd still recommend everyone who's ever liked a sci-fi film give it a shot though, you might miss out on a masterpiece if you don't try. EDIT: the books get pretentious as all fuck later. Saying "not enough for the brain" would have Frank Herbert spinning in his grave!
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