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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 19, 2021 20:55:12 GMT
What we need are more Coffee shops. Nah. We definitely need more B&Ms. Bookies an'all. Nowhere near enough.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on May 19, 2021 20:57:32 GMT
Nah. We definitely need more B&Ms. Bookies an'all. Nowhere near enough. To be fair, we should know better than most, that their future lies online!
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Post by teenagefanclub on May 19, 2021 21:06:20 GMT
Our local towns need look no further than Leek or Nantwich to see how a town can thrive without big name stores (there is a small m and s food in Nantwich).
And both of the above have cheaper parking as well.
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Post by chad on May 19, 2021 21:34:25 GMT
BHS, Debenhams and now M&S and all in the last few years What about Bratt &Dykes And Huntbatches
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 21:42:44 GMT
Now that was the late 70s fashion shop đ Wasnt it also the big school uniform retailer in the area. Seem to remember Moorside Blazer from there. Yes, I went to Hanley High and we had to get the uniform from Chawners. When we went in the assistant asked us which school uniform we wanted.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 19, 2021 21:50:22 GMT
City centre shopping is on its last legs.
Out of town retail parks with huge free car parks are the next incarnation of shopping.
I work for one of these retailers and they are always busy. The modern shopper doesn't want pokey high streets nowadays, they want space and easy access to retail outlets.
You rarely see an empty retail park these days but you see plenty of empty high street shops.
In 20 years time it may change again, but for now the festival and wolstanton retail parks of the world are here for the foreseeable future.
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Post by dexta on May 19, 2021 22:12:01 GMT
Soon as they close c n a hanley was on its arse
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 19, 2021 23:02:49 GMT
Bookies an'all. Nowhere near enough. To be fair, we should know better than most, that their future lies online! Had to bloody spoil it didn't you...
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Post by elystokie on May 19, 2021 23:18:22 GMT
Wasnt it also the big school uniform retailer in the area. Seem to remember Moorside Blazer from there. Yes, I went to Hanley High and we had to get the uniform from Chawners. When we went in the assistant asked us which school uniform we wanted. No school uniform at our school, they tried to get the lads to wear ties once I think but gave up after not very long cos very few took any notice. Still shopped at Chawners for school clothes tho, probably cos they took Provident and Shopachecks
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on May 19, 2021 23:26:35 GMT
To be fair, we should know better than most, that their future lies online! Had to bloody spoil it didn't you... Even so there are still a lot of betting shops knocking about, they tend to be really dingy drab places too. Like they are almost embarrassed to be there.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 0:15:03 GMT
Our local towns need look no further than Leek or Nantwich to see how a town can thrive without big name stores (there is a small m and s food in Nantwich). And both of the above have cheaper parking as well. Not so sure, Is a huge amount of charity shops in Nantwich that used to be independent shops. B and M, Home Bargain, Subway, Aldi etc all in the town centre
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2021 7:59:23 GMT
I havenât been to Hanley for years and years but assume itâs the same M&S that was there 30 odd years ago. My Mum would drag me around occasionally and sheâd take me to the cafe for a scone and cherryade. Seemed quite posh at the time! i once had a dodgy stomach and had ventured into town on a saturday afternoon with mrs flea79, as i was parking the car i let rip and followed through, i used the bogs in m and s to clean up and dispose of my soiled undergarments thats the only use it has ever been to me
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 20, 2021 8:24:07 GMT
I havenât been to Hanley for years and years but assume itâs the same M&S that was there 30 odd years ago. My Mum would drag me around occasionally and sheâd take me to the cafe for a scone and cherryade. Seemed quite posh at the time! i once had a dodgy stomach and had ventured into town on a saturday afternoon with mrs flea79, as i was parking the car i let rip and followed through, i used the bogs in m and s to clean up and dispose of my soiled undergarments thats the only use it has ever been to me A unique retail experience!.
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Post by werrington on May 20, 2021 8:50:56 GMT
I havenât been to Hanley for years and years but assume itâs the same M&S that was there 30 odd years ago. My Mum would drag me around occasionally and sheâd take me to the cafe for a scone and cherryade. Seemed quite posh at the time! i once had a dodgy stomach and had ventured into town on a saturday afternoon with mrs flea79, as i was parking the car i let rip and followed through, i used the bogs in m and s to clean up and dispose of my soiled undergarments thats the only use it has ever been to me So if you donât use it fuck those who actually do and who cares about its demise? Welcome to Tory Britain
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2021 8:54:58 GMT
i once had a dodgy stomach and had ventured into town on a saturday afternoon with mrs flea79, as i was parking the car i let rip and followed through, i used the bogs in m and s to clean up and dispose of my soiled undergarments thats the only use it has ever been to me So if you donât use it fuck those who actually do and who cares about its demise? Welcome to Tory Britain im sure you will be able to purchase slacks and comfy shoes from elsewhere! it is a loss to the high street, another gaping hole where it once was, but the shop is outdated and caters only to folk of a certain age who wear beige, or thats the impression it gives off im not sure what me shitting myself has to do with the incumbent ruling party though, there are plenty of threads to discuss politics, let this one degenerate into a none political farce!
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Post by werrington on May 20, 2021 9:00:12 GMT
So if you donât use it fuck those who actually do and who cares about its demise? Welcome to Tory Britain im sure you will be able to purchase slacks and comfy shoes from elsewhere! it is a loss to the high street, another gaping hole where it once was, but the shop is outdated and caters only to folk of a certain age who wear beige, or thats the impression it gives off im not sure what me shitting myself has to do with the incumbent ruling party though, there are plenty of threads to discuss politics, let this one degenerate into a none political farce! Youâd be suprised at the ages of those who use it mate
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2021 9:01:09 GMT
im sure you will be able to purchase slacks and comfy shoes from elsewhere! it is a loss to the high street, another gaping hole where it once was, but the shop is outdated and caters only to folk of a certain age who wear beige, or thats the impression it gives off im not sure what me shitting myself has to do with the incumbent ruling party though, there are plenty of threads to discuss politics, let this one degenerate into a none political farce! Youâd be suprised at the ages of those who use it mate you mean some are not quite getting the pensions yet?
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Post by salopstick on May 20, 2021 9:54:03 GMT
People and town planners (I know planners are people too) had better get used to the changing face of the âhigh streetâ. Online shopping is here to stay and is only going to increase. Who wants to go to a town or city, with all the hassles that involves, when you can buy pretty much anything from a computer keyboard and if, for example, it is clothes you are after you can order multiple sizes in several styles, try it all on, keep what you want and easily send the rest back? And then spend all the time youâve just saved yourself in chilling, hobbies eating out, leisure, having fun, a second job, or what ever you want or need. So called high streets are evolving into places where people go to relax, meet friends, have fun, eat and drink. And, perhaps, visit a few little specialised shops and boutiques. The days of the big department stores are over in most places and towns can be reclaimed as places where people spend leisure and pleasure time. Some places are already part way along that journey, others have yet to begin, and still more havenât acknowledged the changes that are on their way. But, as sure as eggs are eggs, the changes are coming. The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park.
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2021 12:00:29 GMT
People and town planners (I know planners are people too) had better get used to the changing face of the âhigh streetâ. Online shopping is here to stay and is only going to increase. Who wants to go to a town or city, with all the hassles that involves, when you can buy pretty much anything from a computer keyboard and if, for example, it is clothes you are after you can order multiple sizes in several styles, try it all on, keep what you want and easily send the rest back? And then spend all the time youâve just saved yourself in chilling, hobbies eating out, leisure, having fun, a second job, or what ever you want or need. So called high streets are evolving into places where people go to relax, meet friends, have fun, eat and drink. And, perhaps, visit a few little specialised shops and boutiques. The days of the big department stores are over in most places and towns can be reclaimed as places where people spend leisure and pleasure time. Some places are already part way along that journey, others have yet to begin, and still more havenât acknowledged the changes that are on their way. But, as sure as eggs are eggs, the changes are coming. The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. a good local network of travel like a tube or metro is invaluable, alas stoke council are considering relaunching horse and cart...
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Post by elystokie on May 20, 2021 12:30:04 GMT
People and town planners (I know planners are people too) had better get used to the changing face of the âhigh streetâ. Online shopping is here to stay and is only going to increase. Who wants to go to a town or city, with all the hassles that involves, when you can buy pretty much anything from a computer keyboard and if, for example, it is clothes you are after you can order multiple sizes in several styles, try it all on, keep what you want and easily send the rest back? And then spend all the time youâve just saved yourself in chilling, hobbies eating out, leisure, having fun, a second job, or what ever you want or need. So called high streets are evolving into places where people go to relax, meet friends, have fun, eat and drink. And, perhaps, visit a few little specialised shops and boutiques. The days of the big department stores are over in most places and towns can be reclaimed as places where people spend leisure and pleasure time. Some places are already part way along that journey, others have yet to begin, and still more havenât acknowledged the changes that are on their way. But, as sure as eggs are eggs, the changes are coming. The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. Charging for parking is certainly one of the things that should be looked at. When I lived in Ely you got 2 (might have been 3) hours free on any public car park, I used to speak to plenty of people from the neighbouring towns and villages who were attracted by the free parking there.
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Post by salopstick on May 20, 2021 12:30:31 GMT
The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. a good local network of travel like a tube or metro is invaluable, alas stoke council are considering relaunching horse and cart... Yep but in the absence of that why would I want to drive 20 miles to go shopping and pay ÂŁ5 parking for the privilege
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2021 12:43:37 GMT
a good local network of travel like a tube or metro is invaluable, alas stoke council are considering relaunching horse and cart... Yep but in the absence of that why would I want to drive 20 miles to go shopping and pay ÂŁ5 parking for the privilege the sad fact is we can order most things online now and we can wait a day or two for most things as well, with the cost of fuel etc it makes no sense to be fagging up and down the country for shopping, its the way its headed, its time too stop worrying and learn to love the amazon!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 20, 2021 12:46:43 GMT
The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. Charging for parking is certainly one of the things that should be looked at. When I lived in Ely you got 2 (might have been 3) hours free on any public car park, I used to speak to plenty of people from the neighbouring towns and villages who were attracted by the free parking there. Remember a radio interview with Mary Portas? or something like that. She is a retail and town centre expert who has done various studies about town centre issues. Anyway the interview was running out of time and she was asked quickly what the ONE thing all councils could do to help town centres survive. Free parking was her response. Now things have moved on in terms of the environmental impact of cars etc but this was over a decade ago and I didn't see many councils embracing much of her advice.
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2021 14:36:20 GMT
In what way do Brighter Futures and their relationship with the council need investigating ? I used to have dealings with BF whilst working in the civil service and found them to be very caring and supportive of their customers, if you have any evidence to back this up you need to report it to the authorities. I know a few people who work for said organisation and the things they tell me about their practices and level of care they have for their clients in terms of finding long term solutions for them are quite eye-opening. Whilst I have no hard evidence to support their claims (although there's no reason for me to disbelieve the people passing on this information), it sounds like there's been a few brown envelopes passed to enable this service provider to continue to extract revenue from public coffers for a service that isn't delivering for both the city and the people who engage with it. I will be contacting someone about another matter next Monday who would be very interested in these allegations, PM me.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 20, 2021 15:12:03 GMT
The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. Charging for parking is certainly one of the things that should be looked at. When I lived in Ely you got 2 (might have been 3) hours free on any public car park, I used to speak to plenty of people from the neighbouring towns and villages who were attracted by the free parking there. Quite like Ely, got a bloody good hockey club, nice church as well đ.
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Post by elystokie on May 20, 2021 17:39:09 GMT
Charging for parking is certainly one of the things that should be looked at. When I lived in Ely you got 2 (might have been 3) hours free on any public car park, I used to speak to plenty of people from the neighbouring towns and villages who were attracted by the free parking there. Quite like Ely, got a bloody good hockey club, nice church as well đ. Yeh, big old place that church paid for with eels apparently, they used to be used as currency in those parts once upon a time. Its a nice enough little place, especially down by the river, just a bit lacking entertainment wise for me, had to travel to Cambridge really.
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Post by UNKLE on May 20, 2021 18:04:16 GMT
In some respects they've created the problem with the store in Wolstanton, those loyal to M&S will go there rather than piss around having to park in Hanley.... My mum doesnât drive and every Friday she pops into Hanley on the bus/taxi to get a few things from marks whether it be clothes but always some food until I take her on a big shop.....sheâs done it since I was a kid Itâs a crying shame for the likes of those people This... my mum before she struggled with her balance would get the bus from Cellarhead and shop in M&S and get steak from the market. She didnât drive so Wolstanton wasnât an option. It is really sad for the older generation that the traditional high street is dying. I havenât been to Hanley for the best part of 15 years but the stories on this MB do not paint a good picture of the commercial epicentre of S-O-T. Out of town retail parks are soulless and yet it seems like the future of retail up and down the country. I live in âthat shitholeâ đ London, which is strange in itself with lots of high streets and no one central shopping area. That said itâs relatively easy for pensioners to shop locally and get there on public transport.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 18:10:36 GMT
People and town planners (I know planners are people too) had better get used to the changing face of the âhigh streetâ. Online shopping is here to stay and is only going to increase. Who wants to go to a town or city, with all the hassles that involves, when you can buy pretty much anything from a computer keyboard and if, for example, it is clothes you are after you can order multiple sizes in several styles, try it all on, keep what you want and easily send the rest back? And then spend all the time youâve just saved yourself in chilling, hobbies eating out, leisure, having fun, a second job, or what ever you want or need. So called high streets are evolving into places where people go to relax, meet friends, have fun, eat and drink. And, perhaps, visit a few little specialised shops and boutiques. The days of the big department stores are over in most places and towns can be reclaimed as places where people spend leisure and pleasure time. Some places are already part way along that journey, others have yet to begin, and still more havenât acknowledged the changes that are on their way. But, as sure as eggs are eggs, the changes are coming. The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. I guess on the other hand , non paying car parks will attract all day parkers and non shoppers. The whole demise of high street shops in nothing to do with governments etc despite an attempt above to turn it into yet another political rant, On line shopping has taken over and far more convenient obviously. The need for larger chains to have high street shops will dwindle even further of course but the way it is.
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Post by AlliG on May 20, 2021 18:37:34 GMT
The worse thing about modern high street and shopping centre shopping is paying to park. Expensive in some places. Same as cinema etc. They want you to come spend your money but want you to take out a bank loan just to park. I guess on the other hand , non paying car parks will attract all day parkers and non shoppers. The whole demise of high street shops in nothing to do with governments etc despite an attempt above to turn it into yet another political rant, On line shopping has taken over and far more convenient obviously. The need for larger chains to have high street shops will dwindle even further of course but the way it is. Easily solved. Most car parks nowadays have number plate recognition cameras. Allow 2, 3 or even 4 hours free parking but then charge a substantial fee for anything over the free period.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 20:15:12 GMT
I guess on the other hand , non paying car parks will attract all day parkers and non shoppers. The whole demise of high street shops in nothing to do with governments etc despite an attempt above to turn it into yet another political rant, On line shopping has taken over and far more convenient obviously. The need for larger chains to have high street shops will dwindle even further of course but the way it is. Easily solved. Most car parks nowadays have number plate recognition cameras. Allow 2, 3 or even 4 hours free parking but then charge a substantial fee for anything over the free period. Fair idea. Not unlike what supermarkets do. I think with pretty much everyone on line these days the idea of going to a town centre when say Amazon deliver the next day is not appealing in any way.
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