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Post by pushon on Apr 8, 2021 9:57:49 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. In the case of McLean do you class commitment as doing things that don't need doing, picking up bookings for stupid challenges in non dangerous situations and publicly slating your manager when he points out you had a shit substitute performance? James McLean shows commitment to James McLean. As soon as something doesn't go his way he shows his true colours. Your last sentence sums him up succinctly.
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Post by Onneravineet on Apr 8, 2021 11:05:18 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow. This. Also Shawcross wasn’t a vocal leader either, certainly not on the pitch.
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Post by hardcastle on Apr 8, 2021 15:55:10 GMT
On money spent, it it one of the worse. We have had worse sides, but they cost very little. 'On money spent'? My first choice eleven reads - Davies, Smith (at a push), Collins, Souttar, Fox/RND, Cousins, Mikel, Campbell, Powell, Doughty (not yet played, l realise), and Fletcher. Six of these were free transfers and three have come up from the under 21s. Be fair, we're in the painful process of divesting ourselves of the expensive underperformers. You can't keep harking on about the errors of previous managers, MON is trying to move the club forward. It's safe to assume that almost all the expensive underperformers who are holding us back are not in MON's long term plans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 16:09:29 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. Don't mistake McClean's head down charge about the pitch way of playing with commitment. This is the guy who goes home and runs on his treadmill after games, he loves to run. At the start of the season he was left out of the squad and when asked McKinley said they picked the players who showed the right attitude and commitment in pre season. There's clearly problems with him off the pitch just like there were at his previous clubs, doing a lot of running on the pitch doesn't necessarily mean commitment. Allen I agree with, that's why he's made captain, unfortunately the performances are not always there and we often look better without him.
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