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Post by bingbang on Apr 6, 2021 7:49:42 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 6, 2021 7:52:26 GMT
We don't have a striker either!
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Post by Davef on Apr 6, 2021 7:57:48 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2021 7:57:59 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. Worst team you’ve ever seen my arse🙄How can you possibly say that when we’ve had far worse teams over the 50 years,bizzare
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 6, 2021 8:03:24 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. Worst team you’ve ever seen my arse🙄How can you possibly say that when we’ve had far worse teams over the 50 years,bizzare This is no where near the worst team we have had. I really wish it was. The last 50 years would have been so much smoother!
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Post by damagedswan on Apr 6, 2021 8:06:28 GMT
OK deep breaths... I'm not sure if you remember this but last season we were bottom of the Championship after the first 15 games...
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Post by bingbang on Apr 6, 2021 8:29:17 GMT
This team as it is now is going nowhere, we can’t challenge for promotion in an absolutely shocking league, I would say the standard in the championship is on a par with division one 20 years ago.
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Post by Gods on Apr 6, 2021 10:31:17 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow. The 84/85 side beat Manchester United and Arsenal in top flight league games, just saying !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 11:08:16 GMT
It's a better team than last season and the year before
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 6, 2021 11:14:31 GMT
On money spent, it it one of the worse. We have had worse sides, but they cost very little.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 6, 2021 11:19:36 GMT
On money spent, it it one of the worse. We have had worse sides, but they cost very little. When you consider Barnsley's team cost about the same as we paid them for Jacob Brown it put's it into perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 11:20:34 GMT
There are two sorts of leaders... people who inspire the team by being brave in the tackle , always 'on it' , always alert and pushing their team mates to be the same ... Dennis Smith , Mike Doyle , Johnny Eustace, Robert Huth
We don't have one of them
Players who inspire their team mates by being brave on the ball ... Jimmy Greenhoff , Alan Hudson , Peter hoekstra, Ricardo fuller
We have got Powell
That's something , but we are not ticking a lot of boxes , when it comes to inspirational footballers
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Post by lancashirelad on Apr 6, 2021 11:26:36 GMT
You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow. The 84/85 side beat Manchester United and Arsenal in top flight league games, just saying ! What's wrong with the other big win over the mighty Wednesday just to complete the set
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Apr 6, 2021 11:28:24 GMT
I noticed yesterday how quite our players are compared to millwall who were encouraging each other all through the game. So yes we do lack a leader as we just seem to be going through the motions.
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Post by damagedswan on Apr 6, 2021 11:29:15 GMT
On money spent, it it one of the worse. We have had worse sides, but they cost very little. I do agree with this, although this was definitely more true last season than it was this. This season's signings have all been inexpensive and, as far as the Championship goes, generally fine.
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Post by lordb on Apr 6, 2021 11:58:38 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow. And lots more years too Can understand youngsters who only started following Stoke in about 2007 onwards coming up with such hyperbolic outrage but anyone else it's nonsense.
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 6, 2021 13:12:35 GMT
On money spent, it it one of the worse. We have had worse sides, but they cost very little. Exactly that. I think that that is the crux of the matter for those of us a certain age. This lot over promised and under delivered whereas those years they under promised and stuck to their guns.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 6, 2021 13:22:04 GMT
In fact the current team didn't actually cost very much. The money was spent on people who aren't in it, and who, by and large, aren't in the plans going forward. The current group of players get way too much stick on here in my view, both individually and collectively. They shouldn't have to carry the can for the deficiencies of others.
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Post by Miles Offside on Apr 6, 2021 14:42:50 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. We've had so many bloody awful teams over the years there's a lot of competition for the worst, but the present lot are definitely amongst the least entertaining.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 6, 2021 14:58:10 GMT
We don’t seem to have a leader on the pitch anymore, we always had a good vocal leader, Overson,Cranson,Shawcross etc. Now we don’t seem to have one. Even in our times in the lower divisions, you always felt there was a fire smouldering ready to ignite. I see nothing in this team whatsoever, in fact in my 50 years supporting Stoke it could possibly be the worst team I have seen ever. You think this team is worse than those of 84/85, 89/90, 90/91, 97/98 or 98/99? Wow. Not to mention 17/18, 18/19 and 19/20
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Post by kerouac on Apr 6, 2021 15:55:36 GMT
As someone has said,we aren’t an enjoyable watch at the moment.....we may not be the worst in my 59 years of watching but I don’t get much enjoyment from the games barring the usual 20 minute purple patch.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 7, 2021 15:20:44 GMT
Controversial maybe and I am not, in any way, advocating changing the manager but I don't exactly see Michael O'Neill as an inspirational leader off the pitch. McKinlay seems to do all the shouting, prompting and prodding from the side lines during games and, unfortunately, most of it falls on deaf ears on the pitch. This lot need a real rocket up their backsides. I think the carrot approach has been largely unsuccessful and it's time to bring the stick out. I just get the impression everyone is just too comfortable and an acceptance of mediocrity seems to prevail all around.
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Post by drfootball on Apr 7, 2021 15:27:16 GMT
This team needs a modern day Gerry Taggert at the back and a fit Tyrese Campbell up front.
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Post by skemstokie on Apr 7, 2021 18:27:11 GMT
This team needs a modern day Gerry Taggert at the back and a fit Tyrese Campbell up front. A fit Tyrese and Harry ( with Collins next season) is starting to dictate the play at the back,the footings are in time to build
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Post by teenagefanclub on Apr 7, 2021 21:02:06 GMT
Worst Bob Marley song in my opinion.
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Post by maine on Apr 7, 2021 21:09:31 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 7, 2021 23:44:37 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. It is pretty clear that MON was referring to McLean when he stated some players don’t want to be at Stoke, especially after his Twitter comment.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2021 5:59:02 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. One of which has the positional sense of a mouse on a acid trip The other struggles to beat a egg
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Post by Northy on Apr 8, 2021 6:31:46 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. It is pretty clear that MON was referring to McLean when he stated some players don’t want to be at Stoke, especially after his Twitter comment. What was his twatter comment?
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 8, 2021 6:54:23 GMT
In my opinion the most committed current players are the much maligned Joe Allen and James McClean. As we all know,neither of them played v Millwall. In the case of McLean do you class commitment as doing things that don't need doing, picking up bookings for stupid challenges in non dangerous situations and publicly slating your manager when he points out you had a shit substitute performance? James McLean shows commitment to James McLean. As soon as something doesn't go his way he shows his true colours.
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