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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2021 17:45:36 GMT
Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood? Yeah I think that's a good summary. Can't believe we're taking Phillips mind. And Dier still being an option is laughable. I keep forgetting about Lingard too. I'd have him in for Phillips. I don’t think there’s any doubt Lingard will go. I wouldn’t take Phillips or Dier either
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2021 17:46:48 GMT
Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on. www.sportinglife.com/football/news/is-there-already-a-30-man-england-squad/190426Yeah - not absolutely nailed-on. But I'd be very surprised if they weren't, especially given the 26-man squads. Southgate is definitely contrary enough to go for something left-field though. I just hope he doesn't take the 3 right-backs And I'm a bit puzzled that he's stuck with Dier and Coady as his likely back-up centre-backs, rather than get someone like Tomori, Godfey or Konsa into the mix earlier. Coady is very comfortable in a three, probably means he’ll make the squad
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:47:38 GMT
I wouldn't take Lingard, but it just seems to be assumed he's now a cert.
He's something stupid like 1/10.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:48:38 GMT
www.sportinglife.com/football/news/is-there-already-a-30-man-england-squad/190426Yeah - not absolutely nailed-on. But I'd be very surprised if they weren't, especially given the 26-man squads. Southgate is definitely contrary enough to go for something left-field though. I just hope he doesn't take the 3 right-backs And I'm a bit puzzled that he's stuck with Dier and Coady as his likely back-up centre-backs, rather than get someone like Tomori, Godfey or Konsa into the mix earlier. Coady is very comfortable in a three, probably means he’ll make the squad Yeah, only makes sense if he still sees a back 3 as likely. He's very, very average in a 2.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2021 17:48:56 GMT
When is the squad announced?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:50:18 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 17:53:19 GMT
Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on. They've got to be surely? I'm not fully on the Grealish hype train but he's something different to the rest of them and is just useful if needed. Bellingham is the midfielder we need. So impressed with his discipline and energy. So good for a 17 year old. I’d take them both, 100%. Do you think Southgate will though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 17:57:45 GMT
They've got to be surely? I'm not fully on the Grealish hype train but he's something different to the rest of them and is just useful if needed. Bellingham is the midfielder we need. So impressed with his discipline and energy. So good for a 17 year old. I’d take them both, 100%. Do you think Southgate will though? Yeah. I didn't think he couldn't if I'm being honest. Which may be very naive but yeah I just don't see how he could consider it?
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Post by pieofpeter on May 11, 2021 18:00:25 GMT
I’d take them both, 100%. Do you think Southgate will though? Yeah. I didn't think he couldn't if I'm being honest. Which may be very naive but yeah I just don't see how he could consider it? Agree with this and I'd take Ward-Prowse an all.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 18:06:09 GMT
I’d take them both, 100%. Do you think Southgate will though? Yeah. I didn't think he couldn't if I'm being honest. Which may be very naive but yeah I just don't see how he could consider it? He’s pretty dour though and hasn’t seemed convinced by either. Genuinely don’t think another manager would keep giving Dier caps at this point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 18:23:12 GMT
Yeah. I didn't think he couldn't if I'm being honest. Which may be very naive but yeah I just don't see how he could consider it? He’s pretty dour though and hasn’t seemed convinced by either. Genuinely don’t think another manager would keep giving Dier caps at this point. I agree on all counts. I'd sack him tomorrow and replace him with 30 year old who's been coaching the u15s or something. But I just can't imagine it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2021 18:25:38 GMT
He’s pretty dour though and hasn’t seemed convinced by either. Genuinely don’t think another manager would keep giving Dier caps at this point. I agree on all counts. I'd sack him tomorrow and replace him with 30 year old who's been coaching the u15s or something. But I just can't imagine it. What?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 18:26:17 GMT
I agree on all counts. I'd sack him tomorrow and replace him with 30 year old who's been coaching the u15s or something. But I just can't imagine it. What? Southgate is wank, any old fucker would be better.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2021 18:27:42 GMT
Southgate is wank, any old fucker would be better. Just an experienced progressive coach who has the players respect. Said it before and I’ll say it again, get Brenda in! And I agree, maybe wank is a bit strong but I agree with the sentiment😏
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2021 18:46:28 GMT
They've got to be surely? I'm not fully on the Grealish hype train but he's something different to the rest of them and is just useful if needed. Bellingham is the midfielder we need. So impressed with his discipline and energy. So good for a 17 year old. I’d take them both, 100%. Do you think Southgate will though? I think he will Can't see either starting the tournament though
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Post by clarkeda on May 11, 2021 19:34:07 GMT
Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on. www.sportinglife.com/football/news/is-there-already-a-30-man-england-squad/190426Yeah - not absolutely nailed-on. But I'd be very surprised if they weren't, especially given the 26-man squads. Southgate is definitely contrary enough to go for something left-field though. I just hope he doesn't take the 3 right-backs And I'm a bit puzzled that he's stuck with Dier and Coady as his likely back-up centre-backs, rather than get someone like Tomori, Godfey or Konsa into the mix earlier. The fact dier will go over Godfrey is a joke. I personally Godfrey is an immense CB who has everything, and can play RCB in a 3 properly too.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 12, 2021 7:19:43 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on May 12, 2021 11:42:57 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2021 18:56:05 GMT
Another nice goal for Sancho early in the German Cup Final
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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2021 19:38:31 GMT
And another
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Post by lordb on May 13, 2021 19:56:18 GMT
Given Sterling dip in form - & make no mistake he'll be back- is it time for Sancho?
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Post by LankyPotter on May 13, 2021 21:25:22 GMT
Henderson
Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Bellingham Rice Mount
Foden Kane Grealish
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 13, 2021 21:30:19 GMT
Henderson Walker Stones Maguire Shaw Bellingham Rice Mount Foden Kane Grealish One paced?
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Post by LankyPotter on May 13, 2021 21:42:27 GMT
Henderson Walker Stones Maguire Shaw Bellingham Rice Mount Foden Kane Grealish One paced? Potentially but Sancho, Sterling, Lingard etc from the bench if needed - technical ability is sky high in that XI though
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Post by FullerMagic on May 16, 2021 8:43:18 GMT
Nice cameo from Joe Allen and hic chickens early on in the BBC trailer
On England, Martin Samuel says he doesn't expect Alexander-Arnold to be in the squad and he's hearing Sancho could well miss out on the 26, which would be a bold call.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 16, 2021 9:02:02 GMT
Anyone who has Henderson starting in goal must not have watched him since he became the shits #1, he's been dodgy at best.
Trent won't get picked because Southgate values Trippier higher, rightly or wrongly. Walker and James are shoe ins.
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Post by clarkeda on May 16, 2021 9:17:31 GMT
Nice cameo from Joe Allen and hic chickens early on in the BBC trailer On England, Martin Samuel says he doesn't expect Alexander-Arnold to be in the squad and he's hearing Sancho could well miss out on the 26, which would be a bold call. Not taking Sancho is an absolute crime
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Post by Championship Potter on May 16, 2021 9:23:20 GMT
Lingard over Sancho surely classes as a crime against football. Even more so now Lingard’s hot streak appears to have ended while Sancho is bang in form.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 17, 2021 9:26:34 GMT
David Ornstein, who is normally pretty accurate, says almost certainly no Alexander-Arnold. But Sancho, Grealish, Henderson, and Bellingham will be in theathletic.com/2591909/202...hgate-squad-alexander-arnold-likely-casualty/A key concern is the status of Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson, who is currently expected to be named in the group despite suffering a groin injury on February 20 that has ended his season. England will then have a week to assess Henderson before the cut-off for changes — midnight on June 1 — and they intend to give the 30-year-old midfielder as long as viable to prove his fitness. He is also sweating on the condition of centre-back Harry Maguire following an ankle problem, plus midfielders Jack Grealish and Declan Rice have just returned from absences of their own. If Southgate is satisfied, all four are likely to earn selection and the same is true of Jadon Sancho. The 21-year-old winger was sidelined for England’s World Cup qualifiers in March and there were additional doubts over his form, but those have been allayed with a superb end to the campaign. No surprise inclusions are anticipated, although 17-year-old midfielder Jude Bellingham is on course to continue his spectacular rise to prominence by taking a place within Southgate’s party. Southgate came in for heavy criticism and Alexander-Arnold’s club displays have improved since his omission — but there is no indication that he has leapfrogged his rivals in the manager’s mind...it is understood to be improbable that he forces his way into this summer’s plans barring injuries or a change of heart. The Alexander-Arnold stance is not said to have been formed on the basis of talent or character, rather how he fits into Southgate’s thought process and the way he wants the team to operate. While he was apparently taken aback by the reaction and listens to alternative views, Southgate’s decisions tend not to be swayed by such opinion, which is sure to heighten in the coming days.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 17, 2021 9:28:43 GMT
Trippier is about to win La Liga.
Has to go doesn’t he?
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