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Post by noustie on May 5, 2021 11:21:09 GMT
From the outside looking in your strength in depth is massive and with, for want of a better phrase, this golden generation it seems to be distributed across the park fairly evenly without many glaring gaps. From a Scotland perspective your fifth choice right back would piss into our squad whereas probably only Robertson, Tierney and McTominay would get close to double figure caps in yours.
What I thought was interesting though is with this group is it more the sums of the parts rather than the individual as how many would get in an England side at the moment based on past 25 years?
Seaman/ Hart vs Pickford Neville vs Walker / TAA / Trip/ James / Wan Bis (How many fucking good right backs does one nation need you greedy bastards!) Adams/Campbell/Terry vs McGuire Ferdinand vs Stones Cole vs Shaw
Carrick vs Rice Lampard vs Henderson Scholes vs Foden Beckham vs Sancho
Shearer/ Owen vs Kane
Bizarrely Sterling at left wing is the only position not up for discussion and he’s well out of form so he shouldn’t be near your starting XI at the moment. I think what sums up you’ve now got a team rather than individuals is Henderson wouldn’t get in many top XI from the last 25 years but he’s integral to what you’ve now got.
You’ve got one of the top 3 squads in the tournament for me and must have the best chance of winning something since Euro 96. Keep the media onside by beating Croatia first game who aren’t as good as they were in the World Cup and on the crest of a wave the only team I could see stopping you are France or Italy at a push.
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Post by spiderpuss on May 5, 2021 13:26:24 GMT
One issue we could have is a lot of players still playing football for their club on the 29/5. The following might be playing that day: Stones, Sterling, Walker, Chilwell, Foden, Trippier( if Real Madrid), Mount & maybe Hudson-Odoi.
And so those players probably wont be considered for the two friendlies before the real deal. Seems quite a list to me.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2021 14:50:36 GMT
Sancho fit and back in form
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2021 14:51:37 GMT
Sancho fit and back in form A good sub option
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 14:55:00 GMT
I still would love a no Kane starting XI
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2021 15:16:52 GMT
I still would love a no Kane starting XI Yeh but the common consensus is you’re a moron🤣
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 15:19:53 GMT
I still would love a no Kane starting XI Yeh but the common consensus is you’re a moron🤣 Wrongly. A interchangeable front 4 would be awesome with the players we have. Kane tends to just get in the way.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2021 15:23:00 GMT
Yeh but the common consensus is you’re a moron🤣 Wrongly. A interchangeable front 4 would be awesome with the players we have. Kane tends to just get in the way. I’m sure you realise by now I’m joking! It’d be interesting to see but I just don’t trust any of our forwards to finish chances. Kane is one of the best in the business in that regard and a non too shabby footballer I might add. Starts every game for me
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2021 15:25:56 GMT
Wrongly. A interchangeable front 4 would be awesome with the players we have. Kane tends to just get in the way. I’m sure you realise by now I’m joking! It’d be interesting to see but I just don’t trust any of our forwards to finish chances. Kane is one of the best in the business in that regard and a non too shabby footballer I might add. Starts every game for me He is but I’m just a dreamer aren’t I. And not a massive fan of Kane admittedly. And I know he is one of the best strikers in the world but I dunno for England I just don’t like him. And have dreams about lots of fast players who don’t have defined positions buzzing around like bees confusing defences. 😂🤦♂️
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2021 15:27:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2021 15:36:01 GMT
Sancho fit and back in form A good sub option It's bonkers, he could be one of the best players in the world but there's genuinely nothing wrong with what you have said If only we had 1 genuine top drawer centre back
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2021 16:01:45 GMT
It's bonkers, he could be one of the best players in the world but there's genuinely nothing wrong with what you have said If only we had 1 genuine top drawer centre back We are blessed with fantastic attacking talent, I just hope Southgate uses it. Doubtful I’d imagine
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2021 14:21:19 GMT
Another goal for Greenwood. Has to be in the squad.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2021 14:44:51 GMT
Another goal for Greenwood. Has to be in the squad. No chance
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2021 14:58:47 GMT
Another goal for Greenwood. Has to be in the squad. No chance You reckon? After Kane he’s the most natural finisher we have. He’s got to be one of the three additional players surely?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2021 15:03:02 GMT
You reckon? After Kane he’s the most natural finisher we have. He’s got to be one of the three additional players surely? I just don’t think Southgate will take him. Didn’t he say he was only picking a 23 man squad anyway and then 3 reserves who will only come in if there’s a COVID case in the squad or whatever. Has to be nailed on for Qatar though you’d imagine unless he goes off the rails.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2021 15:14:35 GMT
You reckon? After Kane he’s the most natural finisher we have. He’s got to be one of the three additional players surely? I just don’t think Southgate will take him. Didn’t he say he was only picking a 23 man squad anyway and then 3 reserves who will only come in if there’s a COVID case in the squad or whatever. Has to be nailed on for Qatar though you’d imagine unless he goes off the rails. Has he said that? What a fucking bellend.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2021 15:16:36 GMT
I just don’t think Southgate will take him. Didn’t he say he was only picking a 23 man squad anyway and then 3 reserves who will only come in if there’s a COVID case in the squad or whatever. Has to be nailed on for Qatar though you’d imagine unless he goes off the rails. Has he said that? What a fucking bellend. Pretty sure it was speculated in the media a couple of days ago. He said something like “picking a 23 man squad required a certain level of intelligence” or some other bollocks. I’ll try and find it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2021 15:18:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2021 15:46:07 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2021 18:22:00 GMT
Another goal for Greenwood. Has to be in the squad. No chance He's got a chance especially now it's 26 players I think he'll miss out but one injury and he could sneak in Edit: just seen above re only taking 23, in which case he's got no chance
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:19:30 GMT
He's making a pretty good case for himself. I think he may just squeeze into the 26.
That's apparently 8 in his last 11 now
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2021 17:24:04 GMT
He's making a pretty good case for himself. I think he may just squeeze into the 26. That's apparently 8 in his last 11 now If he takes 26
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 17:31:24 GMT
He's got to take 26.
He's an absolute moron not to.
And Greenwood has to be on there.
Sancho and him are the only two best off the right.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:34:19 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:36:43 GMT
He's got to take 26. He's an absolute moron not to. And Greenwood has to be on there. Sancho and him are the only two best off the right. Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 17:38:59 GMT
He's got to take 26. He's an absolute moron not to. And Greenwood has to be on there. Sancho and him are the only two best off the right. Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood? Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 17:43:20 GMT
He's got to take 26. He's an absolute moron not to. And Greenwood has to be on there. Sancho and him are the only two best off the right. Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood? Yeah I think that's a good summary. Can't believe we're taking Phillips mind. And Dier still being an option is laughable. I keep forgetting about Lingard too. I'd have him in for Phillips.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2021 17:44:56 GMT
Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood? Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on. They've got to be surely? I'm not fully on the Grealish hype train but he's something different to the rest of them and is just useful if needed. Bellingham is the midfielder we need. So impressed with his discipline and energy. So good for a 17 year old.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2021 17:45:03 GMT
Maybe these 21 are pretty much certs? Pickford Henderson Pope Walker Shaw Chilwell Stones Maguire Mings Rice Henderson Phillips Bellingham Mount Sterling Rashford Foden Grealish Sancho Kane DCL Then at least one more RB (Alex-Arnold, Trippier, James) At least one more CB (Dier, Coady are the only ones being mentioned) Maybe Ward-Prowse as an additional CM. Then maybe 2 from Lingard, Saka and Greenwood? Do we think Bellingham and Grealish are certs? They should be (if Grealish is fit) but I fear they're not nailed on. www.sportinglife.com/football/news/is-there-already-a-30-man-england-squad/190426Yeah - not absolutely nailed-on. But I'd be very surprised if they weren't, especially given the 26-man squads. Southgate is definitely contrary enough to go for something left-field though. I just hope he doesn't take the 3 right-backs And I'm a bit puzzled that he's stuck with Dier and Coady as his likely back-up centre-backs, rather than get someone like Tomori, Godfey or Konsa into the mix earlier.
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