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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 17, 2021 18:17:31 GMT
Sterling has been absolutely awful today, I have no idea how he's still on the pitch.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 17, 2021 18:26:15 GMT
One measure I often use in judging how strong an England squad looks is by considering how many of that squad would be good enough to be selected in an all England best 11.
For instance in the 1966 group, Banks, Charlton and Moore would certainly be picked in such a team. The only player in this squad who might get in would be Harry Kane.
I must say the defence worries me and yes there are some flair players in midfield and up front, but players like Sterling and Foden who tend to be hit and miss for Man. City would have to be at their very best if we are to progress.
Think we'll see of the weaker teams and then falter against the big boys, in my opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2021 18:27:32 GMT
One measure I often use in judging how strong an England squad looks is by considering how many of that squad would be good enough to be selected in an all England best 11. For instance in the 1966 group, Banks, Charlton and Moore would certainly be picked in such a team. The only player in this squad who might get in would be Harry Kane. I must say the defence worries me and yes there are some flair players in midfield and up front, but players like Sterling and Foden who tend to be hit and miss for Man. City would have to be at their very best if we are to progress. Think we'll see of the weaker teams and then falter against the big boys, in my opinion. Foden hit and miss? Don’t think I’ve watched that player.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 17, 2021 18:38:37 GMT
Just my opinion bayern, now if Kevin De Bruyne was English, what a player he is!
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Post by fazza90 on Apr 17, 2021 18:51:22 GMT
Sterling looks to be significantly off it for Man City. With him maybe having lost his place in Pep's top XI for their biggest games, wonder if Southgate still sees him as a nailed-on starter with the credit he's accumulated? I have a horrible feeling he will be a starter but he shouldn't be based on his form.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 17, 2021 21:03:14 GMT
Sterling looks to be significantly off it for Man City. With him maybe having lost his place in Pep's top XI for their biggest games, wonder if Southgate still sees him as a nailed-on starter with the credit he's accumulated? I have a horrible feeling he will be a starter but he shouldn't be based on his form. Sterling is Southgates baby. He will start every game make no mistake
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 19, 2021 13:36:44 GMT
Ramsdale, Pickford, Pope Justin, Lamptey, Cresswell, Ayling, Dunk, White, Coady, Mings Phillips, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Ward-Prowse, Rice, Powell, Grealish, Sancho, Eze, Watkins, Ings, Calvert-Lewin (oops!)
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Post by lordb on Apr 19, 2021 13:37:48 GMT
Ramsdale, Pickford, Pope Justin, Lamptey, Cresswell, Ayling, Dunk, White, Coady, Mings Phillips, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Ward-Prowse, Rice, Powell, Grealish, Sancho, Eze, Watkins, Ings, Adams that took me a minute good work
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Post by neckender78 on Apr 19, 2021 21:14:17 GMT
With fucking off players from the self obsessed greedy clubs. This starting 11 still looks decent in 433 formation. Nick Pope
Mason Holgate Connor Cody Tyrone Mings James Justin
Declan Rice James Ward Prowse James Maddison
Jadon Sancho Jack Grealish Dominic Calvert Lewin
Still decent attacking options to come off the bench aswell.
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Post by lordb on Apr 20, 2021 8:03:46 GMT
Ramsdale, Pickford, Pope Justin, Lamptey, Cresswell, Ayling, Dunk, White, Coady, Mings Phillips, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Ward-Prowse, Rice, Powell, Grealish, Sancho, Eze, Watkins, Ings, Adams that took me a minute good work Che Adams plays for Scotland mind
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 23, 2021 7:40:22 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56852135BBC Sport understands Dublin's last-16 game, featuring the winner of England's group, will be moved to Wembley.
So if England win Group D, which also features Scotland, Croatia and the Czech Republic, they will play the second-placed Group F team (France, Germany, Portugal and Hungary) on home soil on 29 June.So, if confirmed, that's potentially just the QF not at home if England win their group (and get past a very tricky last 16 opponent, even at home)
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2021 16:35:17 GMT
Is the Foden momentum making him a starter now?
And is Sterling still nailed-on with his wobbly form, with Foden having nudged above him in Pep's pecking order?
Maybe looking at:
Pickford Walker Maguire Stones Shaw *Henderson Rice XX Mount XX Kane
+2 from Sterling, Foden, Rashford - with Sancho an outside chance if he has a storming end to the season, and Grealish a very outside chance if he plays the last couple of games for Villa and makes a splash)
*Rice and Henderson's fitness permitting, with Phillips coming in if one of them doesn't make it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2021 16:37:25 GMT
I don't get why Foden wouldn't start?
Literally would be the first name on the teamsheet for me.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2021 16:38:52 GMT
I don't get why Foden wouldn't start? Literally would be the first name on the teamsheet for me. Who are you going with on the other wing?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 26, 2021 16:39:57 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2021 16:42:05 GMT
I don't get why Foden wouldn't start? Literally would be the first name on the teamsheet for me. Who are you going with on the other wing? I'd play Foden instead of Mount or have Mount in for a central midfielder. But back to reality, I think he'll play Rashford or Sterling if he does play Foden. Not sure which.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2021 16:43:59 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford? I'd have Jordan in over Pickford Him or Pope should be the number one for sure.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2021 16:45:34 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford? I think you could make a case for it - certainly in time for the World Cup next year. I'd be surprised if he didn't start with Pickford though, unless there's a series of Pickford specials before June. m.skybet.com/football/england-specials/event/27247089Just looking at the odds to start the first game, Pickford's 8/13 and Henderson is 7/2 - and that seems about right.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2021 16:47:50 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford? May as well, he’s been playing centre half for Liverpool most of the season and can’t be any worse than Pickford😀
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2021 16:51:12 GMT
Who are you going with on the other wing? I'd play Foden instead of Mount or have Mount in for a central midfielder. But back to reality, I think he'll play Rashford or Sterling if he does play Foden. Not sure which. It's not something that Pep really does with him either, is it? Despite this general feeling that he's an option there And he even played wide for the England u17s, didn't he? He definitely could play there long-term, but Southgate will probably use him wide for a while. I'm really torn on who to play in those wide positions. It's a big shame that all the Grealish momentum has gone with this injury. About the best he can hope for now is being in the squad. I'd definitely start Foden, but can't really choose who to go with on the other side - although Rashford seems to have been playing through injury for months and may well be a spent force come the summer (mind you, they all must be absolutely knackered)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2021 16:59:37 GMT
I'd play Foden instead of Mount or have Mount in for a central midfielder. But back to reality, I think he'll play Rashford or Sterling if he does play Foden. Not sure which. It's not something that Pep really does with him either, is it? Despite this general feeling that he's an option there And he even played wide for the England u17s, didn't he? He definitely could play there long-term, but Southgate will probably use him wide for a while. I'm really torn on who to play in those wide positions. It's a big shame that all the Grealish momentum has gone with this injury. About the best he can hope for now is being in the squad. I'd definitely start Foden, but can't really choose who to go with on the other side - although Rashford seems to have been playing through injury for months and may well be a spent force come the summer (mind you, they all must be absolutely knackered) He doesn't but isn't that because of KDB? I'd the pace out wide and Foden central and just rotating with them tbh. Grealish is ok but he's not in the class of Mount or Foden imo. People romanticise him. Good player and should go but one for games against lesser nations and a good sub. I'd still go with: Rice Bellingham/Mount Sancho Foden Rashford Kane We have so many options though and Bellingham coming of age in the second half of the season could be huge. I hope it's a 25 man squad mind so we can squeeze Saka and Greeenwood in potentially. Because I wouldn't want to leave them out.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2021 17:28:38 GMT
It's not something that Pep really does with him either, is it? Despite this general feeling that he's an option there And he even played wide for the England u17s, didn't he? He definitely could play there long-term, but Southgate will probably use him wide for a while. I'm really torn on who to play in those wide positions. It's a big shame that all the Grealish momentum has gone with this injury. About the best he can hope for now is being in the squad. I'd definitely start Foden, but can't really choose who to go with on the other side - although Rashford seems to have been playing through injury for months and may well be a spent force come the summer (mind you, they all must be absolutely knackered) He doesn't but isn't that because of KDB? I'd the pace out wide and Foden central and just rotating with them tbh. Grealish is ok but he's not in the class of Mount or Foden imo. People romanticise him. Good player and should go but one for games against lesser nations and a good sub. I'd still go with: Rice Bellingham/Mount Sancho Foden Rashford Kane We have so many options though and Bellingham coming of age in the second half of the season could be huge. I hope it's a 25 man squad mind so we can squeeze Saka and Greeenwood in potentially. Because I wouldn't want to leave them out. Our defensive frailties will once again be our undoing. For the record I agree with Foden central and two of the wide men either side, for me it would be Sterling and Rashford with, like you say, Grealish being a very useful sub. Saka and Greenwood have time on their side for the World Cup and Bellingham seems to have been a revelation but again maybe an eye on the World Cup with him rather than starting in the Euros. He should definitely be in the squad though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2021 18:06:01 GMT
He doesn't but isn't that because of KDB? I'd the pace out wide and Foden central and just rotating with them tbh. Grealish is ok but he's not in the class of Mount or Foden imo. People romanticise him. Good player and should go but one for games against lesser nations and a good sub. I'd still go with: Rice Bellingham/Mount Sancho Foden Rashford Kane We have so many options though and Bellingham coming of age in the second half of the season could be huge. I hope it's a 25 man squad mind so we can squeeze Saka and Greeenwood in potentially. Because I wouldn't want to leave them out. Our defensive frailties will once again be our undoing. For the record I agree with Foden central and two of the wide men either side, for me it would be Sterling and Rashford with, like you say, Grealish being a very useful sub. Saka and Greenwood have time on their side for the World Cup and Bellingham seems to have been a revelation but again maybe an eye on the World Cup with him rather than starting in the Euros. He should definitely be in the squad though. Yeah there are tons of options attacking wise and I still think Southgate with the most dour of them. The defence is poor, that's why I'd just try to outscore everyone.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2021 18:12:05 GMT
Our defensive frailties will once again be our undoing. For the record I agree with Foden central and two of the wide men either side, for me it would be Sterling and Rashford with, like you say, Grealish being a very useful sub. Saka and Greenwood have time on their side for the World Cup and Bellingham seems to have been a revelation but again maybe an eye on the World Cup with him rather than starting in the Euros. He should definitely be in the squad though. Yeah there are tons of options attacking wise and I still think Southgate with the most dour of them. The defence is poor, that's why I'd just try to outscore everyone. Without a doubt, “heavy metal football” is the only way for this squad but I fear Southgate will try to outwit opponents when he doesn’t seem to have the nous. Happy to wait and see and whatever the squad I just want to see us go out and play the attacking football we’ve shown glimpses of. It would also give the country a big lift to see us go all out attack. Not that that comes into the managers thinking. When we made the semis in the last World Cup I thought we looked pretty decent up to the second half against Croatia so hopefully Southgate will see that attack is the best policy
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Post by lordb on Apr 26, 2021 19:00:55 GMT
Is the Foden momentum making him a starter now? And is Sterling still nailed-on with his wobbly form, with Foden having nudged above him in Pep's pecking order? Maybe looking at: Pickford Walker Maguire Stones Shaw *Henderson Rice XX Mount XXKane +2 from Sterling, Foden, Rashford - with Sancho an outside chance if he has a storming end to the season, and Grealish a very outside chance if he plays the last couple of games for Villa and makes a splash) *Rice and Henderson's fitness permitting, with Phillips coming in if one of them doesn't make it? I'd push Mount back and have Foden Sterling Kane and Rashford
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2021 19:06:01 GMT
Is the Foden momentum making him a starter now? And is Sterling still nailed-on with his wobbly form, with Foden having nudged above him in Pep's pecking order? Maybe looking at: Pickford Walker Maguire Stones Shaw *Henderson Rice XX Mount XXKane +2 from Sterling, Foden, Rashford - with Sancho an outside chance if he has a storming end to the season, and Grealish a very outside chance if he plays the last couple of games for Villa and makes a splash) *Rice and Henderson's fitness permitting, with Phillips coming in if one of them doesn't make it? I'd push Mount back and have Foden Sterling Kane and Rashford It's an option, maybe against weaker teams - but Southgate seems to have only been prepared to move from the back 3 if he goes very conservative with the 2 central midfielders. Can't see him doing it against a stronger team, but we'll see!
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Post by lordb on Apr 26, 2021 19:25:45 GMT
I'd push Mount back and have Foden Sterling Kane and Rashford It's an option, maybe against weaker teams - but Southgate seems to have only been prepared to move from the back 3 if he goes very conservative with the 2 central midfielders. Can't see him doing it against a stronger team, but we'll see! Funny things can happen in tournaments
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 26, 2021 21:32:05 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford? Yes there is. Pickfy is a strange keeper. But a good one. If he could get his head right there'd be no question about it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 27, 2021 6:41:07 GMT
Is there an argument for Henderson starting in goal over Pickford? Yes there is. Pickfy is a strange keeper. But a good one. If he could get his head right there'd be no question about it. He seems to have developed that things we breed into young English keepers now to be as cocky as possible to the extent that gaffes slip into your game, and then there's no way back after that. It happened to Hart and seemed a little bit to happen to Jack as well.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 27, 2021 6:50:56 GMT
From what I've seen of Henderson at United, I wouldn't trust him either. Not a chance I'd play him this summer that's for sure.
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