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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2021 17:52:33 GMT
I’d like to think that most of the misogynistic crap on here is firmly tongue-in-cheek. The PC woke brigade shut down all humour brigade at it again.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 24, 2021 17:59:17 GMT
I’d like to think that most of the misogynistic crap on here is firmly tongue-in-cheek. The PC woke brigade shut down all humour brigade at it again. If anybody is capable of pushing anyone towards woke-ism and PC-ism its you mate. Anyway you can relax now, sit back and enjoy the rich tones of Gary Linekar's voice. That will calm you down ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by potterburt on Jan 24, 2021 18:01:12 GMT
I have no problem with you thinking her voice was too loud. I'm simply pointing out that all TV companies have sound engineers whose job is to balance the voices out so that none of them sound especially louder than the others. Fair enough. I said her voice was too loud. Yet again pounced on as being a sexist bigot by certain people who can’t let it go as a simple opinion and try to delve deeper because I’m talking about a female. I just think it’s such a shame for you (and a few others on this thread) that her voice has totally and completely spoilt the whole of your Sunday. If her being a commentator is such a contentious issue for people - maybe getting in touch with the beeb? (of its still going - points of view perhaps?) you may find that it would be more productive and you might be able to actively change something rather than having to constantly discuss/argue about it to no avail all day on the Oatcake? Hope the rest of the week gets better for you 🙏🏻
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jan 24, 2021 18:02:13 GMT
Her voice being too loud is more a problem of the BBC sound engineer not getting the balance right. It isn't difficult to lower or raise the volume of each commentator or pundit - they each have their own mics. Even the pitch of the voice can be altered. Is it only men who seem to find it difficult to find Volume on modern TV remote controls??? ![(question)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/XXiVCR8ugEQgztLfqFjy.gif) I was defending her more than anything but go off ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif)
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2021 18:03:08 GMT
The PC woke brigade shut down all humour brigade at it again. If anybody is capable of pushing anyone towards woke-ism and PC-ism its you mate. Anyway you can relax now, sit back and enjoy the rich tones of Gary Linekar's voice. That will calm you down ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm calm enough thanks it's the libtards getting their panties in a twist again over something which is pretty innocent.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2021 18:05:49 GMT
Fair enough. I said her voice was too loud. Yet again pounced on as being a sexist bigot by certain people who can’t let it go as a simple opinion and try to delve deeper because I’m talking about a female. I just think it’s such a shame for you (and a few others on this thread) that her voice has totally and completely spoilt the whole of your Sunday. If her being a commentator is such a contentious issue for people - maybe getting in touch with the beeb? (of its still going - points of view perhaps?) you may find that it would be more productive and you might be able to actively change something rather than having to constantly discuss/argue about it to no avail all day on the Oatcake? Hope the rest of the week gets better for you 🙏🏻 It's a football message board where football fans discuss football related topics what a shocker.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2021 18:05:51 GMT
Fair enough. I said her voice was too loud. Yet again pounced on as being a sexist bigot by certain people who can’t let it go as a simple opinion and try to delve deeper because I’m talking about a female. I just think it’s such a shame for you (and a few others on this thread) that her voice has totally and completely spoilt the whole of your Sunday. If her being a commentator is such a contentious issue for people - maybe getting in touch with the beeb? (of its still going - points of view perhaps?) you may find that it would be more productive and you might be able to actively change something rather than having to constantly discuss/argue about it to no avail all day on the Oatcake? Hope the rest of the week gets better for you 🙏🏻 You’re a troll mate, I don’t take any notice of your opinions so save it for someone who may get offended👍🏻
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 24, 2021 18:08:12 GMT
The PC woke brigade shut down all humour brigade at it again. If anybody is capable of pushing anyone towards woke-ism and PC-ism its you mate. Anyway you can relax now, sit back and enjoy the rich tones of Gary Linekar's voice. That will calm you down ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I must be getting old. I had never heard of WOKE until this morning on the Andrew Marr show.😤
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 24, 2021 18:09:19 GMT
Not really, it isn't just a problem with women's voices - some men have louder or higher pitched voices than others and sound engineers are there to get the balance right. That’s as maybe but her voice was too loud, whether it was her or something technical. It was just annoying. I don’t know why people are turning this into a sexism argument yet again. I’ve said the same of others who were all men. It was just annoyingly loud man or woman. I personally think the OP turned it into a sexism issue by using what I would call unnecessarily aggressive language reminiscent of the Stone Age. Maybe it was meant as a joke, that's hard to tell from here. It's not a case of being offended, it's basically taking issue with what is interpreted as inappropriate language. People have the right to state that they find it inappropriate, without being name called, just as others have the right to say that they are OK with it. Personally having been exposed to domestic abuse as a kid, it reminds of the kind of language used in that context, that's my own take it and why I'm not keen on it.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 24, 2021 18:10:47 GMT
If anybody is capable of pushing anyone towards woke-ism and PC-ism its you mate. Anyway you can relax now, sit back and enjoy the rich tones of Gary Linekar's voice. That will calm you down ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm calm enough thanks it's the libtards getting their panties in a twist again over something which is pretty innocent. Do you have to use childish name calling in every post?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2021 18:12:52 GMT
That’s as maybe but her voice was too loud, whether it was her or something technical. It was just annoying. I don’t know why people are turning this into a sexism argument yet again. I’ve said the same of others who were all men. It was just annoyingly loud man or woman. I personally think the OP turned it into a sexism issue by using what I would call unnecessarily aggressive language reminiscent of the Stone Age. Maybe it was meant as a joke, that's hard to tell from here. It's not a case of being offended, it's basically taking issue with what is interpreted as inappropriate language. People have the right to state that they find it inappropriate, without being name called, just as others have the right to say that they are OK with it. Personally having been exposed to domestic abuse as a kid, it reminds of the kind of language used in that context, that's my own take it and why I'm not keen on it. That’s fair enough mate and I’m sorry to hear that. There’s too much negative energy on here at the minute. Time for a break I think👍🏻
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 24, 2021 18:14:18 GMT
Ok - I'll bite Women commentators are awful and they should keep them away from the men's game - how about that? None of them have played at a level that could even compare to League 2 in the men's game so how about we let some ex-Vale players commentate and pass on their insight before some screeching harridan? More BBC woke nonsense - if they want real equality then put the womens' teams in the mens' league and let's see what happens Have you looked at the BBC football website recently, when you click on "More" under Football Scores in the top right corner? Is that the BBC's view on the relative order of importance of the football leagues now? I don't know what's more offensive, the suggestion that he Women's league now has a higher status than the Championship or that the Scottish Premiership has - either way, it's bullshit Do you think women should be allowed to attend football matches? Once the hooverings done and the shoppings put away, the beds are made, and the ironings done then why not
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Post by potterburt on Jan 24, 2021 18:21:27 GMT
I just think it’s such a shame for you (and a few others on this thread) that her voice has totally and completely spoilt the whole of your Sunday. If her being a commentator is such a contentious issue for people - maybe getting in touch with the beeb? (of its still going - points of view perhaps?) you may find that it would be more productive and you might be able to actively change something rather than having to constantly discuss/argue about it to no avail all day on the Oatcake? Hope the rest of the week gets better for you 🙏🏻 You’re a troll mate, I don’t take any notice of your opinions so save it for someone who may get offended👍🏻 Oh right ok, nice. 😈 Spend ya Sunday how ya want of course. Just saying if the main issue raised and reason for this thread is the volume level of a commentator - might be better to take it up with the source? Or as poopchucker above has tried to point out (rather embarrassingly) that this is a football forum - then maybe the discussion of TV sound & equalising levels would go down better on a Sound technicians forum? 🤦🏻♂️ 😂
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2021 18:25:19 GMT
You’re a troll mate, I don’t take any notice of your opinions so save it for someone who may get offended👍🏻 Oh right ok, nice. 😈 Spend ya Sunday how ya want of course. Just saying if the main issue raised and reason for this thread is the volume level of a commentator - might be better to take it up with the source? Or as poopchucker above has tried to point out (rather embarrassingly) that this is a football forum - then maybe the discussion of TV sound & equalising levels would go down better on a Sound technicians forum? 🤦🏻♂️ 😂 Lovely stuff, cheers for the advice
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2021 19:00:56 GMT
I'm calm enough thanks it's the libtards getting their panties in a twist again over something which is pretty innocent. Do you have to use childish name calling in every post? Sorry have a called you a name or do you class yourself as a libtard ?
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 24, 2021 19:28:53 GMT
Great to see all the blokes who are under the thumb sticking up for her
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 24, 2021 19:41:13 GMT
I just think it’s such a shame for you (and a few others on this thread) that her voice has totally and completely spoilt the whole of your Sunday. If her being a commentator is such a contentious issue for people - maybe getting in touch with the beeb? (of its still going - points of view perhaps?) you may find that it would be more productive and you might be able to actively change something rather than having to constantly discuss/argue about it to no avail all day on the Oatcake? Hope the rest of the week gets better for you 🙏🏻 You’re a troll mate, I don’t take any notice of your opinions so save it for someone who may get offended👍🏻 You don’t take any notice but you respond to his post. Right you are fella ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2021 19:51:28 GMT
You’re a troll mate, I don’t take any notice of your opinions so save it for someone who may get offended👍🏻 You don’t take any notice but you respond to his post. Right you are fella ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) 🥱
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Post by hughjarse on Jan 24, 2021 20:00:42 GMT
She wasn't great but the criticism has been multiplied many times over because of her gender and that is disappointing. Alan Smith and Danny Mills to name but two are far worse pundits
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Post by dave1 on Jan 24, 2021 20:01:32 GMT
My lady loves football but I refuse to let her go. I mean, who wants to hear a women shouting and balling, when they don't have a clue what's going on! The closest she gets is picking me up, after I've had a couple!!!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 24, 2021 20:02:02 GMT
It is all about the pitch of the voice and how you hear it. The Chelsea game i thought Karen Cairney was talking too much almost as much as the commentator, now watching Utd/Liv, Jermaine Jenas is the co commentator and he is talking as much as Cairney did, but is easier on my ear. Was about to post the same. It's perhaps because we've become so used to listening to lower-pitched voices commentating that a higher pitch sounds really strange, and therefore annoying as fuck! I'm getting more used to women commentators though. I like Alex Scott- she knows her stuff and her voice isn't screechy.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2021 20:05:59 GMT
It is all about the pitch of the voice and how you hear it. The Chelsea game i thought Karen Cairney was talking too much almost as much as the commentator, now watching Utd/Liv, Jermaine Jenas is the co commentator and he is talking as much as Cairney did, but is easier on my ear. Was about to post the same. It's perhaps because we've become so used to listening to lower-pitched voices commentating that a higher pitch sounds really strange, and therefore annoying as fuck! I'm getting more used to women commentators though. I like Alex Scott- she knows her stuff and her voice isn't screechy. Yes but Scott isn’t a commentator, she’s a pundit(and to me an acceptable one). It’s the commentators getting on peoples nerves! There’s a huge list of them but this thread was started about Karen Carney.
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Post by a on Jan 24, 2021 20:09:03 GMT
That bloody woman?... always nice to time travel back in time on The Oatcake. I’m going to chime in to say that comment is only sexist if you wish it to be. If you can’t physically see them and you identify it as a woman’s voice then that’s how you would likely differentiate them. Presuming their gender identity however is another topic 😆
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2021 20:12:36 GMT
You don’t take any notice but you respond to his post. Right you are fella ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) 🥱
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 24, 2021 20:13:34 GMT
Great to see all the blokes who are under the thumb sticking up for her Since when has an appreciation of whether a co-commentator is any good or not had anything to do with marital harmony,?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 24, 2021 20:17:40 GMT
Great to see all the blokes who are under the thumb sticking up for her Since when has an appreciation of whether a co-commentator is any good or not had anything to do with marital harmony,? Since heworkshardtho joined the thread! ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif)
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 20:19:17 GMT
I must be getting old. I had never heard of WOKE until this morning on the Andrew Marr show.😤 A wok is something you use in the kitchen, isn't it? 🤔
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Post by kingdaz on Jan 24, 2021 20:22:15 GMT
I must be getting old. I had never heard of WOKE until this morning on the Andrew Marr show.😤 A wok is something you use in the kitchen, isn't it? 🤔 Bit like a woman haha
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Post by 1982stokie on Jan 24, 2021 20:36:39 GMT
It’s strange that’s this has caused such a stir. There are many threads on here that talk about how awful male commentators are, with out people getting up in arms. My favourite comment came from some one who was clearly trying to come across all enlightened yet started by saying “ A load of old white blokes” they managed to make a comment that could be considered ageist and racists while complaining about something they perceived as sexism.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 24, 2021 20:52:58 GMT
What’s confused you now mate? Life? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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