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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2021 21:36:27 GMT
The British media aren't interested in the arrest, handcuffing and pepper spraying of a nine year old black girl in Biden's America then?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 8, 2021 22:22:24 GMT
The British media aren't interested in the arrest, handcuffing and pepper spraying of a nine year old black girl in Biden's America then? It’s truly awful. I think that was the incident where one of the U.K. papers initially lead on Twitter with the headline “9 year old pepper sprayed by police” conveniently removing the word US. I think that says all you need to know about the U.K. press. The same U.K. press that were actively looking for negative stories about police.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 4:36:18 GMT
The British media aren't interested in the arrest, handcuffing and pepper spraying of a nine year old black girl in Biden's America then? It was reported by ITV, The Independent, The Sun, The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 9, 2021 9:04:49 GMT
The British media aren't interested in the arrest, handcuffing and pepper spraying of a nine year old black girl in Biden's America then? It was reported by ITV, The Independent, The Sun, The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail. Yeah but apart from those ones, no-one reported it.
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Post by prettything on Feb 9, 2021 10:11:03 GMT
It was reported by ITV, The Independent, The Sun, The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail. Yeah but apart from those ones, no-one reported it. Brilliant!😂👍
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 9, 2021 14:18:15 GMT
Yeah but apart from those ones, no-one reported it. Brilliant!😂👍 Hundreds (thousands?) of these cases happened in Trump's America. Most weren't reported on either. There are pretty big differences between Biden & Trump on police brutality etc. Generally speaking Trump is in favour of unnecessary police brutality, so long as it is targeted against groups he doesn't like. Biden is against police brutality.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 9, 2021 14:27:15 GMT
Some good news for me recently! US internet is massively overpriced and regularly shit. Republicans especially have worked to help internet companies rape internet users every way possible. Now Biden's in they've dropped a lawsuit so now California can have net neutrality. It's a big step towards making things less shit, but the Trump administration did a lot to ruin the internet and it's nice to see that go into reverse. "Net neutrality" means that your internet provider is not allowed to cut you off or throttle speed to favour certain services. They can make some things faster (e.g. healthcare stuff) but they have to make all things of that type go faster. Internet companies hate it because they want to e.g. make your connection to Netflix shit when they're trying to flog you their own video service. I live between a NASA lab and Caltech so you'd expect decent internet, but I'm stuck on £60/month. US internet is a joke compared to the options you can get in Kidsgrove.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 10, 2021 19:05:04 GMT
Some good news for me recently! US internet is massively overpriced and regularly shit. Republicans especially have worked to help internet companies rape internet users every way possible. Now Biden's in they've dropped a lawsuit so now California can have net neutrality. It's a big step towards making things less shit, but the Trump administration did a lot to ruin the internet and it's nice to see that go into reverse. "Net neutrality" means that your internet provider is not allowed to cut you off or throttle speed to favour certain services. They can make some things faster (e.g. healthcare stuff) but they have to make all things of that type go faster. Internet companies hate it because they want to e.g. make your connection to Netflix shit when they're trying to flog you their own video service. I live between a NASA lab and Caltech so you'd expect decent internet, but I'm stuck on £60/month. US internet is a joke compared to the options you can get in Kidsgrove. I’m confused - and interested. My understanding is Biden’s decision means California retains Net Neutrality which would have gone if Trump’s lawsuit had gone forward. So your current situation is not down to that particular act. Which begs the question, if I’ve understood the situation correctly, why is your current broadband so poor .
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 12, 2021 5:30:45 GMT
Some good news for me recently! US internet is massively overpriced and regularly shit. Republicans especially have worked to help internet companies rape internet users every way possible. Now Biden's in they've dropped a lawsuit so now California can have net neutrality. It's a big step towards making things less shit, but the Trump administration did a lot to ruin the internet and it's nice to see that go into reverse. "Net neutrality" means that your internet provider is not allowed to cut you off or throttle speed to favour certain services. They can make some things faster (e.g. healthcare stuff) but they have to make all things of that type go faster. Internet companies hate it because they want to e.g. make your connection to Netflix shit when they're trying to flog you their own video service. I live between a NASA lab and Caltech so you'd expect decent internet, but I'm stuck on £60/month. US internet is a joke compared to the options you can get in Kidsgrove. I’m confused - and interested. My understanding is Biden’s decision means California retains Net Neutrality which would have gone if Trump’s lawsuit had gone forward. So your current situation is not down to that particular act. Which begs the question, if I’ve understood the situation correctly, why is your current broadband so poor . I mixed things up there, was just really angry about my awful internet deal because I was helping some mates at home pick out internet and they had way better deals, then the next email I get is my monthly bill. Does my nut in that I don't have decent cheaper choices I hate three big shitty things about American internet. 1) no net neutrality 2) awful privacy rules 3) lack of competition, which is bad for the cost and quality of the internet connection Some issues are state/local and nothing has been done to fix my local shitty internet choices yet, but four years of Trump and his commissioner (Ajit Pai) has just been a torrent of the rich internet companies (ISPs) being allowed to shit all over our heads. One of the first things Trump signed was to let ISPs sell any of your info like sites you've visited etc, to anyone without your consent. And you can't stop them. California made a new privacy law that needs fixing, but at least I can opt out now. Other states ain't so lucky. Net neutrality is another big thing I care about because I think personal freedom is good and also that competition is good for markets. Let's say a news site reports on bad behaviour by AT&T or Charter, without net neutrality the ISP can punish that news site by making internet connections to it go really slow. Or they can go to Netflix and say something like "nice internet connection you have there, would be a pity if something were to happen to it..." unless they pay up. Imagine Tesco owned all the roads and when you try to drive to Aldi they limit you to 5 mph, it's basically that. Trump and the Republicans killed net neutrality and made sure the exploitation can get worse unless your state protects you. Lack of competition is another big deal but let's leave that for another day! Basically, Biden has dropped a federal attack on California's net neutrality and this is a huge win for normal people who use the internet, but there's a corporate bootlicker lawsuit still going on that might kill it. Biden says he'll install a commissioner who'll try to fix it at the federal level but the Republicans might try to block that.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 12, 2021 12:06:36 GMT
I’m confused - and interested. My understanding is Biden’s decision means California retains Net Neutrality which would have gone if Trump’s lawsuit had gone forward. So your current situation is not down to that particular act. Which begs the question, if I’ve understood the situation correctly, why is your current broadband so poor . I mixed things up there, was just really angry about my awful internet deal because I was helping some mates at home pick out internet and they had way better deals, then the next email I get is my monthly bill. Does my nut in that I don't have decent cheaper choices I hate three big shitty things about American internet. 1) no net neutrality 2) awful privacy rules 3) lack of competition, which is bad for the cost and quality of the internet connection Some issues are state/local and nothing has been done to fix my local shitty internet choices yet, but four years of Trump and his commissioner (Ajit Pai) has just been a torrent of the rich internet companies (ISPs) being allowed to shit all over our heads. One of the first things Trump signed was to let ISPs sell any of your info like sites you've visited etc, to anyone without your consent. And you can't stop them. California made a new privacy law that needs fixing, but at least I can opt out now. Other states ain't so lucky. Net neutrality is another big thing I care about because I think personal freedom is good and also that competition is good for markets. Let's say a news site reports on bad behaviour by AT&T or Charter, without net neutrality the ISP can punish that news site by making internet connections to it go really slow. Or they can go to Netflix and say something like "nice internet connection you have there, would be a pity if something were to happen to it..." unless they pay up. Imagine Tesco owned all the roads and when you try to drive to Aldi they limit you to 5 mph, it's basically that. Trump and the Republicans killed net neutrality and made sure the exploitation can get worse unless your state protects you. Lack of competition is another big deal but let's leave that for another day! Basically, Biden has dropped a federal attack on California's net neutrality and this is a huge win for normal people who use the internet, but there's a corporate bootlicker lawsuit still going on that might kill it. Biden says he'll install a commissioner who'll try to fix it at the federal level but the Republicans might try to block that. Thanks for that. I’ve learned something new! To summarise... for the US, net neutrality is not supported at the federal level but decisions are allowed at the state level. So California is still able to maintain net neutrality, even more so after Biden’s decision mentioned above. Whether Biden reverses the decision at the federal level to classify ISPs as information services back to common carrier services we will have to wait and see. That said, net neutrality isn’t helping you in California. A discussion on this probably needs a separate thread, but I wonder if the lack of competition you mention is a consequence of net neutrality - at least to some degree, because ISPs choose not to invest as they don’t see a sufficient return because their opportunity to generate necessary revenue is diminished because of net neutrality.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 12, 2021 16:17:19 GMT
Thanks for that. I’ve learned something new! To summarise... for the US, net neutrality is not supported at the federal level but decisions are allowed at the state level. So California is still able to maintain net neutrality, even more so after Biden’s decision mentioned above. Whether Biden reverses the decision at the federal level to classify ISPs as information services back to common carrier services we will have to wait and see. That said, net neutrality isn’t helping you in California. A discussion on this probably needs a separate thread, but I wonder if the lack of competition you mention is a consequence of net neutrality - at least to some degree, because ISPs choose not to invest as they don’t see a sufficient return because their opportunity to generate necessary revenue is diminished because of net neutrality. The Trump admin tried to kill state freedom on this and ban CA's net neutrality, but a court vacated that. The corporate lawsuit might still kill CA's rules though, so the Feds have to do it. Your investment point is a good start, I think it definitely applies to web services that competes with AT&T/Comcast/Cox/Charter. AT&T could end those businesses anytime, so it'll stifle innovation. They already shook down Netflix before Obama's commission did net neutrality and it'll be worse now since the ISPs have more of their own services. Trump's commissioner Pai said that without net neutrality ISPs would invest more and cut prices but ISPs told investors it didn't matter ( also relevant), and there are actually consequences for lying to investors. The EU and Japan have versions of net neutrality with cheaper internet (US avg 60mbps+ prices are ~50% higher) and that's not because the US is big since US rural areas generally just don't get fibre, so it's comparing e.g. LA tech hubs versus Stoke-on-Trent. Trump did big tax cuts and Pai did loads to help ISPs piss right in internet users' mouths so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where the money went. AT&T executive compensation went up 100% under Trump versus 10% in Obama's last term. They used $15bn to write down an executive fuckup[/URL], bought ~$8bn of their own shares, paid down a debt on another buyout and got rid of a lot of staff. It looks like they did nothing to help internet users, but it freed up a lot of money for AT&T to splash around among rich people. So I'm pretty stoked about Biden's DoJ dropping the anti-CA lawsuit, and hope a new commissioner could get US net neutrality sorted. The Biden administration will also support better privacy and a competitive internet market, but I don't think he'll have the political power to do the latter one so a lot of the sucky shit that (mostly) Republicans have forced on US internet users will stick around.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 12, 2021 16:49:18 GMT
Hundreds (thousands?) of these cases happened in Trump's America. Most weren't reported on either. There are pretty big differences between Biden & Trump on police brutality etc. Generally speaking Trump is in favour of unnecessary police brutality, so long as it is targeted against groups he doesn't like. Biden is against police brutality. What’s his policy on protesters brutality Especially in Portland
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 12, 2021 17:00:57 GMT
Hundreds (thousands?) of these cases happened in Trump's America. Most weren't reported on either. There are pretty big differences between Biden & Trump on police brutality etc. Generally speaking Trump is in favour of unnecessary police brutality, so long as it is targeted against groups he doesn't like. Biden is against police brutality. What’s his policy on protesters brutality Especially in Portland You mean violence by protestors, or by police against the protestors?
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 12, 2021 18:22:56 GMT
What’s his policy on protesters brutality Especially in Portland You mean violence by protestors, or by police against the protestors? I mean by protesters
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 13, 2021 15:27:01 GMT
You mean violence by protestors, or by police against the protestors? I mean by protesters He's constantly been against violent protests like here and here and loads of other places if you do a quick search. So that's a big change going from Trump to Biden. Trump regularly encouraged violence from his supporters as well as from the state, while Biden is against both.
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Post by The man from Utch on Feb 13, 2021 16:00:02 GMT
He's constantly been against violent protests like here and here and loads of other places if you do a quick search. So that's a big change going from Trump to Biden. Trump regularly encouraged violence from his supporters as well as from the state, while Biden is against both. Bullshit. You have been watching to many edited videos of his speeches. This was proved in the house yesterday. What the house managers did with their video evidence is disgusting and would have been dismissed and laughed out of caught without a shadow of doubt. If you do not believe me I will post the video from the impeachment hearing clearly showing what they did with their video presentation, it's embarrassing.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 13, 2021 16:36:08 GMT
He's constantly been against violent protests like here and here and loads of other places if you do a quick search. So that's a big change going from Trump to Biden. Trump regularly encouraged violence from his supporters as well as from the state, while Biden is against both. Bullshit. You have been watching to many edited videos of his speeches. This was proved in the house yesterday. What the house managers did with their video evidence is disgusting and would have been dismissed and laughed out of caught without a shadow of doubt. If you do not believe me I will post the video from the impeachment hearing clearly showing what they did with their video presentation, it's embarrassing. I think it's pretty obvious Trump has stoked violence from the very beginning and is very pro violence, both by the state and by his supporters, at least when he's in control. We're all free to opinions of course. "So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. OK?" Why was it a bunch of pro-Trump rioters who attacked democracy? Because he pumped them full of lies about elections, told them to fear, and relentlessly encouraged violence (if he didn't get his way) for years. I know you'll disagree, I have Republican friends out here who will refuse to believe that "knock the crap out of them" is in any way pro-violence and I know they never will, unless a Democrat says it.
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Post by The man from Utch on Feb 13, 2021 16:47:24 GMT
Bullshit. You have been watching to many edited videos of his speeches. This was proved in the house yesterday. What the house managers did with their video evidence is disgusting and would have been dismissed and laughed out of caught without a shadow of doubt. If you do not believe me I will post the video from the impeachment hearing clearly showing what they did with their video presentation, it's embarrassing. I think it's pretty obvious Trump has stoked violence from the very beginning and is very pro violence, both by the state and by his supporters, at least when he's in control. We're all free to opinions of course. "So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. OK?" Why was it a bunch of pro-Trump rioters who attacked democracy? Because he pumped them full of lies about elections, told them to fear, and relentlessly encouraged violence (if he didn't get his way) for years. I know you'll disagree, I have Republican friends out here who will refuse to believe that "knock the crap out of them" is in any way pro-violence and I know they never will, unless a Democrat says it. Here you go. You do know Democrats have been encouraging violence since Trump came on the scene? If you don't I will pull it up for you.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 13, 2021 16:58:47 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious Trump has stoked violence from the very beginning and is very pro violence, both by the state and by his supporters, at least when he's in control. We're all free to opinions of course. "So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. OK?" Why was it a bunch of pro-Trump rioters who attacked democracy? Because he pumped them full of lies about elections, told them to fear, and relentlessly encouraged violence (if he didn't get his way) for years. I know you'll disagree, I have Republican friends out here who will refuse to believe that "knock the crap out of them" is in any way pro-violence and I know they never will, unless a Democrat says it. Here you go. You do know Democrats have been encouraging violence since Trump came on the scene? If you don't I will pull it up for you. Can you find a quote of Joe Biden saying "knock the crap out of them" or similar?
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Post by The man from Utch on Feb 13, 2021 17:12:09 GMT
Here you go. You do know Democrats have been encouraging violence since Trump came on the scene? If you don't I will pull it up for you. Can you find a quote of Joe Biden saying "knock the crap out of them" or similar? Not those exact words and I never said he did but he did say this This clown is talking about sexual assault lol, you do know he's known for his own sexual predatory?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 13, 2021 17:17:32 GMT
Can you find a quote of Joe Biden saying "knock the crap out of them" or similar? Not those exact words and I never said he did but he did say this This clown is talking about sexual assault lol, you do know he's known for his own sexual predatory?[snip] So you've got a man angry at a specific person who insulted his dead child. For comparison: Trump has told rallies to violently attack people that don't support him politically, has regularly used violent rhetoric, and has supported violence by the state against its people. Biden has never done that and has condemned political and state violence. That's the right comparison, yeah?
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Post by The man from Utch on Feb 13, 2021 17:25:35 GMT
Not those exact words and I never said he did but he did say this This clown is talking about sexual assault lol, you do know he's known for his own sexual predatory?[snip] So you've got a man angry at a specific person who insulted his dead child. For comparison: Trump has told rallies to violently attack people that don't support him politically, has regularly used violent rhetoric, and has supported violence by the state against its people. Biden has never done that and has condemned political and state violence. That's the right comparison, yeah? What are you talking about ? That's a lie and proves you did not watch the first video I posted but watched the edited and manipulated one from whatever source you have.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 15, 2021 14:41:10 GMT
[snip] What are you talking about ? That's a lie and proves you did not watch the first video I posted but watched the edited and manipulated one from whatever source you have. I was in a rush on my way out and got confused between that and other accusations a Republican friend made. Sorry about that, that was my bad. Ok, so Biden expressed disgust that Trump boasted about his repeated sexual assaults and then excused and defended them. If he were back at school Biden would have wanted to fight someone like Trump, for boasting about sexual assaults & never apologising or showing remorse. I think he should have just said that, but in terms of encouraging violence it's like a 0.2/10 for me. Trump glorifies, supports & encourages violence by police and his supporters, while Biden is consistently opposed to it. Trump keeps using the same language even after it's caused his fans to assault people, so he knows how it works from at least 2017 when his fans assaulted and battered protesters. Sure, he's learned how to use the 1st Amendment pretty well and that gives good excuses for the sort who'd believe the Corleones never did or encouraged anything violent or illegal. Evidence will change my mind! If you can show me 3+ cases of Biden fans at Biden rallies being told to hate groups and encouraged to rough them up, show me direct quotations of Biden encouraging violence at rallies or in speeches, or show me footage of thousands of Biden fans, waving Biden flags, smashing their way into somewhere specifically threatening to inflict violence on a group of people for political reasons, and then telling people that they were there because Biden told them to be. Then I'll agree that Biden and Trump are similar in terms of support for political, police or protest violence. You chose not to and had to reach pretty far to find something that's not remotely comparable, so I think it's clear: Trump favours violence to intimidate and get his way, Biden is opposed to it. Now you might be fine with using violence over democracy to achieve your political goals, but that's a different topic.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 16, 2021 17:26:47 GMT
Frankly, I'm just enjoying having a grown up back in the Oval office and not having a manchild making shit up on Twitter for morons to swallow whole...
It's like a breath of fresh air.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 16, 2021 21:50:34 GMT
This winter storm has really messed up Texas, millions without power in freezing conditions in houses not designed for it. Biden has declared an emergency, time to see how he handles a state in crisis.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 19, 2021 15:19:49 GMT
[snip] To summarise... for the US, net neutrality is not supported at the federal level but decisions are allowed at the state level. So California is still able to maintain net neutrality, even more so after Biden’s decision mentioned above. Whether Biden reverses the decision at the federal level to classify ISPs as information services back to common carrier services we will have to wait and see. That said, net neutrality isn’t helping you in California. A discussion on this probably needs a separate thread, but I wonder if the lack of competition you mention is a consequence of net neutrality - at least to some degree, because ISPs choose not to invest as they don’t see a sufficient return because their opportunity to generate necessary revenue is diminished because of net neutrality. Big internet news where Biden (and congressional Democrats) make a difference. House Republicans propose nationwide ban on municipal broadband networks. Republicans love how most Americans have 0-1 internet choices so ISPs gouge customers. Some places built local ("municipal") internet, which ISPs hate because then they have to cut prices and/or invest. I've worked in Ft Collins ("FoCo"), Colorado, here's the comparison: FoCo municipal: $60/month for 1 Gbps with no fees, download limits etc and you can leave it whenever you want. FoCo AT&T: advertised at $60/month for "up to 1 Gbps". Plus a $10/month "equiment fee" and a $99 "self installation fee". To find out additional taxes and "cost recovery fee" you have to wait to " See your monthly bill for location-specific information". If they're shit it's $150 to get out of the contract, and if you stick until the second year then it goes up another $20/month. 3 years with the better municipal network = $2,160 3 years with the shitter AT&T network = $3,000 + taxes + "cost recovery fees". Thanks to Biden, this attempt by Republicans to use Federal power to destroy local choices is dead for the next four years. A Republican congress under Trump would have fucked internet users.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 19, 2021 17:47:19 GMT
This winter storm has really messed up Texas, millions without power in freezing conditions in houses not designed for it. Biden has declared an emergency, time to see how he handles a state in crisis. Hilarious how the Texas Republicans have tried to blame green energy deal for their state energy problems. Republicans have controlled all of Texas legislature for over two decades, and during that time, voted to remove Texas from the Federal energy supply network, so that when their own independent network failed, which was mainly down to the failure of fossil-fuel powered plants rather than renewable energy sources, there was no federal safety net to keep the state powered, with the result that dozens of people have died. It would be laughable in its idiocy if it wasn't responsible for killing people.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 21, 2021 16:20:24 GMT
This winter storm has really messed up Texas, millions without power in freezing conditions in houses not designed for it. Biden has declared an emergency, time to see how he handles a state in crisis. Hilarious how the Texas Republicans have tried to blame green energy deal for their state energy problems. Republicans have controlled all of Texas legislature for over two decades, and during that time, voted to remove Texas from the Federal energy supply network, so that when their own independent network failed, which was mainly down to the failure of fossil-fuel powered plants rather than renewable energy sources, there was no federal safety net to keep the state powered, with the result that dozens of people have died. It would be laughable in its idiocy if it wasn't responsible for killing people. Biden's declared a major emergency now, but I haven't seen him make up a load of lies about Texas yet. Big change from Trump where people dying in disasters was a political prop to spread hatred about states that didn't vote for him. It's a big change for Americans, having a president who will support all states. An old officemate worked on power grids and kept me up to date with Texas and tbh I was pretty impressed how they went about their grid, and a lot of the credit goes to Texas Republicans who followed their marketing by investing where needed and then letting the free market work it out. We'll have to wait and see about the real cause of this one, it looks like power plants didn't protect themselves enough against the cold, just like in 2011. 40% of gas, 40% of coal and 28% of nuclear power all went offline in 2 days.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 21, 2021 16:48:55 GMT
This winter storm has really messed up Texas, millions without power in freezing conditions in houses not designed for it. Biden has declared an emergency, time to see how he handles a state in crisis. Hilarious how the Texas Republicans have tried to blame green energy deal for their state energy problems. Republicans have controlled all of Texas legislature for over two decades, and during that time, voted to remove Texas from the Federal energy supply network, so that when their own independent network failed, which was mainly down to the failure of fossil-fuel powered plants rather than renewable energy sources, there was no federal safety net to keep the state powered, with the result that dozens of people have died. It would be laughable in its idiocy if it wasn't responsible for killing people. The (ex) Colorado City Mayor seemed a real stand up, pillar of the community type.
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Post by hoffgreen on Feb 21, 2021 17:02:53 GMT
Molester In Chief
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