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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 11:48:07 GMT
How would they? Is she going to lock him in a room? What do you specifically expect her to do? Maybe she should come out in the press and make disparaging comments about her husband’s health? His family should be encouraging him to stand down and if you can’t see that I despair I can see that. They could well be doing that. I’d be surprised if they weren’t. People don’t always listen to what their family want. You can be concerned in private and remain supportive in public.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 12, 2024 12:25:33 GMT
His family should be encouraging him to stand down and if you can’t see that I despair I can see that. They could well be doing that. I’d be surprised if they weren’t. People don’t always listen to what their family want. You can be concerned in private and remain supportive in public. To be fair Cville it goes beyond that Straight after the disastrous TV debate she was on a campaign stage cheerleading the crowd with Biden standing like a statue and she praising him like a schoolboy telling him he had answered all the questions. It was uncomfortable viewing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 12:30:22 GMT
I can see that. They could well be doing that. I’d be surprised if they weren’t. People don’t always listen to what their family want. You can be concerned in private and remain supportive in public. To be fair Cville it goes beyond that Straight after the disastrous TV debate she was on a campaign stage cheerleading the crowd with Biden standing like a statue and she praising him like a schoolboy telling him he had answered all the questions. It was uncomfortable viewing Praise in public, concern in private. They are on the campaign trail. She cannot be seen to do something other than what is normally expected. US politicians are circus acts on the campaign trail. It’s the problem with public office, it’s so public. If your partner was going for a job and a group of random people at that office asked you if they were capable, you would likely sing their praises even if they were not. Then, you may go home and talk to them about it not being a good idea. Ultimately, unless she gets power of attorney, she can’t make his decisions for him. It’s a disgrace that the DNC haven’t challenged him more but the last person I blame is his wife, who must be going through hell with it as well. Let’s face it, if she wasn’t very supportive in public, she’d be thrown under the bus for failing him in his greatest time of need.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 12, 2024 12:33:14 GMT
I can see that. They could well be doing that. I’d be surprised if they weren’t. People don’t always listen to what their family want. You can be concerned in private and remain supportive in public. To be fair Cville it goes beyond that Straight after the disastrous TV debate she was on a campaign stage cheerleading the crowd with Biden standing like a statue and she praising him like a schoolboy telling him he had answered all the questions. It was uncomfortable viewing It's all to do with power. There is no other motive. That family has got its hands on power and will do everything to hold on to it, whatever the cost. It's unethical, disturbing and wrong, but that is the US of A for you.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 12, 2024 12:51:27 GMT
To be fair Cville it goes beyond that Straight after the disastrous TV debate she was on a campaign stage cheerleading the crowd with Biden standing like a statue and she praising him like a schoolboy telling him he had answered all the questions. It was uncomfortable viewing Praise in public, concern in private. They are on the campaign trail. She cannot be seen to do something other than what is normally expected. US politicians are circus acts on the campaign trail. If it were a family member of mine I couldn't openly support in anyway them doing something which is detrimental to the health and wellbeing, in my view it's an act of cruelty. I utterly detest Trump but am reconciled to 4 more years of his Presidency. I'm quite sure US Administration its Allies and Enemies are too and are preparing accordingly. In many respects it mirrors the recent UK Election, the outcome was not in doubt just the size of the victory. A sideshow in the US Election is Republicans will definitely gain a majority in the Senate. Who gains control of the House is less certain and could be important.
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 12, 2024 12:56:48 GMT
To be fair Cville it goes beyond that Straight after the disastrous TV debate she was on a campaign stage cheerleading the crowd with Biden standing like a statue and she praising him like a schoolboy telling him he had answered all the questions. It was uncomfortable viewing Praise in public, concern in private. They are on the campaign trail. She cannot be seen to do something other than what is normally expected. US politicians are circus acts on the campaign trail. It’s the problem with public office, it’s so public. If your partner was going for a job and a group of random people at that office asked you if they were capable, you would likely sing their praises even if they were not. Then, you may go home and talk to them about it not being a good idea. Ultimately, unless she gets power of attorney, she can’t make his decisions for him. It’s a disgrace that the DNC haven’t challenged him more but the last person I blame is his wife, who must be going through hell with it as well. Let’s face it, if she wasn’t very supportive in public, she’d be thrown under the bus for failing him in his greatest time of need. The problem here is that she can only get power of attorney based on medical evidence. Apparently he has gone through several in-house neurological tests, and passed them all. How's he's done so is miraculous, but if he is seen as medically fit of mind then what hope has she got of getting power of attorney?
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Post by foster on Jul 12, 2024 13:25:49 GMT
Praise in public, concern in private. They are on the campaign trail. She cannot be seen to do something other than what is normally expected. US politicians are circus acts on the campaign trail. If it were a family member of mine I couldn't openly support in anyway them doing something which is detrimental to the health and wellbeing, in my view it's an act of cruelty. I utterly detest Trump but am reconciled to 4 more years of his Presidency. I'm quite sure US Administration its Allies and Enemies are too and are preparing accordingly. In many respects it mirrors the recent UK Election, the outcome was not in doubt just the size of the victory. A sideshow in the US Election is Republicans will definitely gain a majority in the Senate. Who gains control of the House is less certain and could be important. Americans are into tribal politics aren't they? So i doubt Democrats would vote for Trump no matter how bad Biden gets. I expect that they'll vote democrat anyway, in the hope that he's replaced.
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Post by Mendicant on Jul 12, 2024 13:51:25 GMT
I think he’ll withdraw his candidacy in the next week but remain in office until the end of his 4 year term.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 14:10:59 GMT
Praise in public, concern in private. They are on the campaign trail. She cannot be seen to do something other than what is normally expected. US politicians are circus acts on the campaign trail. It’s the problem with public office, it’s so public. If your partner was going for a job and a group of random people at that office asked you if they were capable, you would likely sing their praises even if they were not. Then, you may go home and talk to them about it not being a good idea. Ultimately, unless she gets power of attorney, she can’t make his decisions for him. It’s a disgrace that the DNC haven’t challenged him more but the last person I blame is his wife, who must be going through hell with it as well. Let’s face it, if she wasn’t very supportive in public, she’d be thrown under the bus for failing him in his greatest time of need. The problem here is that she can only get power of attorney based on medical evidence. Apparently he has gone through several in-house neurological tests, and passed them all. How's he's done so is miraculous, but if he is seen as medically fit of mind then what hope has she got of getting power of attorney? And if he’s not medically unfit of mind, why should she be able to make his decisions for him? He either isn’t fit, and the white house is lying (wouldn’t shock me) or he is, and there’s nothing that can be done.
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Post by serpico on Jul 12, 2024 14:25:28 GMT
Does anyone seriously think Biden has another 4 years as president in him ? He was starting to lose it 4 years ago, remember his weird hairy legs speech ? He’s got much worse since then, by 2028 he’s likely going to be a dribbling mess! 🫤
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Post by gawa on Jul 12, 2024 14:56:19 GMT
Crazy that 3rd party candidates aren't doing better given the choices. The US is completely wedded to a 2 party system. In "the land of the free" and "the greatest democracy in the world" they make it incredibly difficult for third parties. It's all about the money there though. Biden election campaign reminds me of Sunaks own self sabotage. Calling it when polling terribly, announcing national service, the lack of umbrella during announcement, visiting titanic the day after, interviewing tory plants at a factory, d day, the election betting. Just a baton being passed in the never ending relay race. The radicalised will believe their establishment picked candidate in the 2 horse race is their Knight in shining armour. Soon we will have two of espteins besties pulling the strings through Mandelson and Trump. And nobody bats an eye lid about nobody facing any trial for it bar maxwell and epstein conveniently "killing himself" under Trumps 24 hour watch
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Post by sumo on Jul 12, 2024 15:55:45 GMT
I think he’ll withdraw his candidacy in the next week but remain in office until the end of his 4 year term. The problem with that is Kamala Harris is deeply unpopular and wouldn't beat Trump, so she won't be allowed to step up. If the democrats parachute someone in ahead of Harris then she's a lame duck Vice-President. Also, who could make a success of leapfrogging a female POC into the top job? Michelle Obama? If there's a totally new President and Vice-President ticket then all funding for Biden and Harris must be return. Of course the Party could ask for the donors to return the cheques and fund a new pairing but with only 120 days until election day it's a real mess for the Democrats.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 12, 2024 16:50:02 GMT
It really is a mess and quite concerning.
Should a alternative be bought in and they defeat Trump there could well be all sorts of potential litigation and enquiries re the redirection of funds etc.
In short A TOTAL MESS with enormous implications.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 12, 2024 17:36:43 GMT
Biden is doing that well Trump has stopped talking. Biden is a barely walking disaster, there is not a hope in hell that he will beat Trump in that condition. It's ridiculous if he doesn't step aside but not surprising also
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 19:57:14 GMT
Question for our American correspondents: Assuming Joe drops out of the race (as he so obviously should. Four years? No chance) who is there that might run in his place? Obviously Kamala Harris is one, but who are the rest of the Democrats being talked about?
I suggested Marianne Williamson on this thread a long time ago, she would eat Trump for breakfast and she is a true voice of the left.
Sadly, it won't happen though ...
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 12, 2024 20:11:41 GMT
Hypothetical question.
If Biden were to continue, but failing to convice anyone of his capacity for office the electorate transferred their Biden vote to a non-aligned Independent Candidate (Kennedy/West/Stein) in an effort to keep Trump out AND they were to win - would it be impossible for them to govern?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 12, 2024 20:37:56 GMT
Hypothetical question. If Biden were to continue, but failing to convice anyone of his capacity for office the electorate transferred their Biden vote to a non-aligned Independent Candidate (Kennedy/West/Stein) in an effort to keep Trump out AND they were to win - would it be impossible for them to govern? George Washington, the first and last 😄
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 13, 2024 10:52:55 GMT
Hypothetical question. If Biden were to continue, but failing to convice anyone of his capacity for office the electorate transferred their Biden vote to a non-aligned Independent Candidate (Kennedy/West/Stein) in an effort to keep Trump out AND they were to win - would it be impossible for them to govern? I’m not sure the president really governs anyway Look at the guest list at this Indian wedding the last month or so Or the annual Davos shindig That’s who’s governing the world
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 13, 2024 11:01:39 GMT
Question for our American correspondents: Assuming Joe drops out of the race (as he so obviously should. Four years? No chance) who is there that might run in his place? Obviously Kamala Harris is one, but who are the rest of the Democrats being talked about?
I suggested Marianne Williamson on this thread a long time ago, she would eat Trump for breakfast and she is a true voice of the left.
Sadly, it won't happen though ...
I get the feeling you have to be male and white to be elected president in the US.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 13, 2024 11:10:59 GMT
I suggested Marianne Williamson on this thread a long time ago, she would eat Trump for breakfast and she is a true voice of the left.
Sadly, it won't happen though ...
I get the feeling you have to be male and white to be elected president in the US. Obama managed it to be fair. And trump is orange 😆
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 13, 2024 13:37:28 GMT
To be fair to Biden he was in good form in Detroit last night. No obvious errors and was holding the crowd really well, came across a really humble nice guy who understood he is there to work for the people, he's a bit witty too.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 13, 2024 14:21:31 GMT
To be fair to Biden he was in good form in Detroit last night. No obvious errors and was holding the crowd really well, came across a really humble nice guy who understood he is there to work for the people, he's a bit witty too. He is all what you say he is ,but he is just too old now.
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Post by musik on Jul 13, 2024 16:46:15 GMT
To be fair to Biden he was in good form in Detroit last night. No obvious errors and was holding the crowd really well, came across a really humble nice guy who understood he is there to work for the people, he's a bit witty too. He is all what you say he is, but he is just too old now. Eggybread is right. Joe Biden is too old now. According to swe Text-tv yesterday he calls Zelenskiy Putin and that sort of stuff now. I also read L Harris has more votes than both Biden and Trump according to the latest poll, 49 compared to 46 and 47 respectively? I have no idea how they can make a sum of 100% out of that though ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 17, 2024 23:05:02 GMT
Finally going to step down?
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Post by salopstick on Jul 18, 2024 7:08:49 GMT
To be fair to Biden he was in good form in Detroit last night. No obvious errors and was holding the crowd really well, came across a really humble nice guy who understood he is there to work for the people, he's a bit witty too. no obvious errors is exactly what you are looking for
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Post by Gods on Jul 18, 2024 7:27:31 GMT
I am thinking the best Democratic strategy would be run with Biden and lose. They will lose anyway whoever they put up.
It's only a 4 year term. Find a new young thruster and you are back in to campaigning in 2 years time anyway for the next election.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 18, 2024 8:15:15 GMT
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Post by noustie on Jul 18, 2024 9:45:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 10:11:54 GMT
Unsurprisingly, the biggest issue that the Biden administration has had has been communication. Their administration has worked hard to reach equity for blacks, yet little is ever really announced or discussed in any reasonable detail: capitalbnews.org/biden-campaign-promises-progress/With Biden being silent, this would have been a great time for another senior member of the cabinet to step up and talk about these bills.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 18, 2024 16:21:30 GMT
I am thinking the best Democratic strategy would be run with Biden and lose. They will lose anyway whoever they put up. It's only a 4 year term. Find a new young thruster and you are back in to campaigning in 2 years time anyway for the next election. If Trump wins do you honestly believe there will be a 2028 election that is remotely free & fair? He tried to steal the 2020 election, which was already unfairly stacked against Democrats by republican state voter suppression, but his VP and the military wouldn't back him up. Now Trump controls the supreme court and by 2028 he will control federal law enforcement and the military. He will have four years to do loyalty tests and purge those who won't obey.
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