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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 21:07:45 GMT
694 minutes on the pitch in 15 matches Whilst he has been on the pitch we have scored only 4 goals, 1 he scored at Villa, and in three other games (Watford, Norwich and Forest) he happened to be on the pitch. In those games we have scored 17 goals. In games he has appeared we have won 5, drawn 3 and lost 7
Without him we are far more creative and have more chance of scoring when he isn’t on the pitch. Makes you cry when you realise how much he cost and how much we’re paying him
Can someone tell the manager.....
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 9, 2021 21:08:50 GMT
Frightening tbh
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jan 9, 2021 21:14:43 GMT
Watching Sunderland vs Hull Wyke and Magennis Both lumps but both win the ball, hold the ball and lay off to others!!
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 9, 2021 21:22:36 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many shots on target he has mustered. I know of a couple of tame headers, but nothing with his feet. At the very least a striker needs shots on target to justify his existence.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 9, 2021 21:28:12 GMT
We could have signed Pukki, Armstrong and Tony combined for around half the price as Vokes cost.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 9, 2021 21:34:29 GMT
He must send a doppelgänger into training every day
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2021 21:51:37 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many shots on target he has mustered. I know of a couple of tame headers, but nothing with his feet. At the very least a striker needs shots on target to justify his existence. 1.4 shots per game, 0.2 in the 6 yard box, 1.1 in the penalty area, and 0.1 outside the area. 43% on target 57% off target. 57% were headers, 29% with his right foot and 14% with his left foot..........
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Post by march4 on Jan 9, 2021 21:54:25 GMT
We would have gone top when he missed that penalty.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 9, 2021 22:07:37 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many shots on target he has mustered. I know of a couple of tame headers, but nothing with his feet. At the very least a striker needs shots on target to justify his existence. 1.4 shots per game, 0.2 in the 6 yard box, 1.1 in the penalty area, and 0.1 outside the area. 43% on target 57% off target. 57% were headers, 29% with his right foot and 14% with his left foot.......... Cheers... 1.4 shots and 57% with his head, 43% on target so it’s pretty straightforward to deduce his feet are practically ineffective. The stats show he can’t play football well.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 22:14:40 GMT
694 minutes on the pitch in 15 matches Whilst he has been on the pitch we have scored only 4 goals, 1 he scored at Villa, and in three other games (Watford, Norwich and Forest) he happened to be on the pitch. In those games we have scored 17 goals. In games he has appeared we have won 5, drawn 3 and lost 7 Without him we are far more creative and have more chance of scoring when he isn’t on the pitch. Makes you cry when you realise how much he cost and how much we’re paying him Can someone tell the manager..... 1 in 15, defenders get a better goal return than that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2021 22:48:35 GMT
How many minutes did he play in the 5 we won?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 9, 2021 23:04:40 GMT
We could have signed Pukki, Armstrong and Tony combined for around half the price as Vokes cost. When you put it like that, it's frightening!!!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 9, 2021 23:07:48 GMT
694 minutes on the pitch in 15 matches Whilst he has been on the pitch we have scored only 4 goals, 1 he scored at Villa, and in three other games (Watford, Norwich and Forest) he happened to be on the pitch. In those games we have scored 17 goals. In games he has appeared we have won 5, drawn 3 and lost 7 Without him we are far more creative and have more chance of scoring when he isn’t on the pitch. Makes you cry when you realise how much he cost and how much we’re paying him Can someone tell the manager..... 1 in 15, defenders get a better goal return than that. Souttar's the tallest player on the pitch and has STILL yet to muster a half arsed attempt on goal!!! This is not me sticking up for Vokes, this is me wondering why Souttar's goal attempts are so pathetic!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2021 23:09:31 GMT
1 in 15, defenders get a better goal return than that. Souttar's the tallest player on the pitch and has STILL yet to muster a half arsed attempt on goal!!! This is not me sticking up for Vokes, this is me wondering why Souttar's goal attempts are so pathetic!!! He’s not had many had he? Yet Thompson delivers a quality set piece 😂 That was sarcasm btw. Our failure to find Souttar at set pieces fucks me off.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 23:12:41 GMT
1 in 15, defenders get a better goal return than that. Souttar's the tallest player on the pitch and has STILL yet to muster a half arsed attempt on goal!!! This is not me sticking up for Vokes, this is me wondering why Souttar's goal attempts are so pathetic!!! I’m giving him a pass because he’s so young and Inexperienced. He looks a bit meek at times and defenders that get goals tend to attack the ball more. Take nowt away from him cos I think he’s brilliant
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Post by elystokie on Jan 9, 2021 23:20:55 GMT
1 in 15, defenders get a better goal return than that. Souttar's the tallest player on the pitch and has STILL yet to muster a half arsed attempt on goal!!! This is not me sticking up for Vokes, this is me wondering why Souttar's goal attempts are so pathetic!!! Every week I bet on him to score, has to happen eventually!
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jan 9, 2021 23:21:48 GMT
The only record vokes will make is if he records one!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 9, 2021 23:24:02 GMT
There just has to be a better option.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 9, 2021 23:25:41 GMT
Hate is a strong word, even more so when talking about football but....
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 9, 2021 23:26:38 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many shots on target he has mustered. I know of a couple of tame headers, but nothing with his feet. At the very least a striker needs shots on target to justify his existence. Against Forest(?) he almost turned it in at the near post from a cross like a proper striker. I'd been shit talking him pregame so remember the opportunity. Think he generally kills our attack.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 9, 2021 23:31:35 GMT
Vokes knows he’s had it at this level. It must be a chastening thought for him but playing him in that frame of mind will do us nothing but damage. Even Gregory would have provided a better foil. We have been royally shafted with injuries. What we do with Vokes from here on in, given what he cost and what he earns, is anybody’s guess.
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Post by stokesupporter on Jan 9, 2021 23:37:02 GMT
The worst part is that he hasn't got any strenghts left at all... can't run, can't jump, can't dribble, and can't score. No hope him to find a purple patch because he simply isn't up to it anymore. He's had a good career in other clubs but he is definitely over the hill now.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 9, 2021 23:45:15 GMT
I find it quite disappointing that a thread supposedly is to talk about Vokes turns into criticism of one of our most talented young players who has proved a revelation this season, and one of the main reasons we are challenging for a play off position.
Has it not occurred to anyone that the large frame of Souttar may be intended to be the distraction to the opposition, drawing their best defender, so that someone else is the target for the ball?
It is regrettable that Vokes career appears to be at an end in terms of productivity. We don't have an alternative thanks to Rowett and Jones in a little over 12 months shelling out all the money (including wages) on over 20 signings and loans of first team squad players.
Our other 3 strikers are all injured and we have to regrettably accept that MO'N has to use who he has got left, till they are back, or till we sell someone so we can buy someone. The club are not going to fall into the "Butland trap" again of buying anyone till someone has left the building.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 9, 2021 23:45:35 GMT
It’s not his fault he’s getting played.
MON is watching his performances and contributions in games and somehow still managing to pick him.
That’s just poor management.
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Post by banksie66 on Jan 9, 2021 23:47:54 GMT
Just observe his general body language during a game and the amount of chasing down etc. he doesn’t do.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 9, 2021 23:50:13 GMT
It’s not his fault he’s getting played. MON is watching his performances and contributions in games and somehow still managing to pick him. That’s just poor management. Is it? Or is it because there is currently literally no other option? Do you think Vokes would be anywhere near the team If everyone was fit?
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 9, 2021 23:50:45 GMT
He's shite
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 9, 2021 23:52:30 GMT
It’s not his fault he’s getting played. MON is watching his performances and contributions in games and somehow still managing to pick him. That’s just poor management. Is it? Or is it because there is currently literally no other option? Do you think Vokes would be anywhere near the team If everyone was fit? I find it hard to imagine any fit player in the squad being worse.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 9, 2021 23:59:21 GMT
It’s not his fault he’s getting played. MON is watching his performances and contributions in games and somehow still managing to pick him. That’s just poor management. Is it? Or is it because there is currently literally no other option? Do you think Vokes would be anywhere near the team If everyone was fit? Vokes was always sub when Ty, Fletch and Powell were available.. Completely disagree Vokes playing today is poor management! .
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 9, 2021 23:59:48 GMT
Is it? Or is it because there is currently literally no other option? Do you think Vokes would be anywhere near the team If everyone was fit? I find it hard to imagine any fit player in the squad being worse. He’s shocking. I started a thread on here after his second game saying how wank I think he is. But he’s literally the only fit “striker” we have. Who else is going to play up front?
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