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Post by spitthedog on Dec 3, 2020 0:56:09 GMT
I thought he did really well considering there were a lot of emotions with the return of the crowd.
They put a lot of pressure on him and he stood up to it, with the dive for the pen, and the Cousins tackle. It would have been hugely popular to have sent him off. Luckily he missed Powell's assault on their player who was injured as a result. That was a let off and would have changed the game.
I thought he was the best ref we've had so far as the standard is generally poor.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 3, 2020 7:43:25 GMT
Well said. I had thought of doing a similar post.
Maybe having spectators in there had a reverse effect, and he didn’t want to be seen as influenced. ?
The Cousins tackle looked bad and many Referees would have used the Red card. Imagine if that had been our old friend Atkinson.!!
I thought MON might have subbed him as one more foul would have probably seen him down the tunnel. ⚓️
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 3, 2020 8:04:14 GMT
Why did he play a million minutes of injury time second half?
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Post by tosh on Dec 3, 2020 8:23:52 GMT
Why did he play a million minutes of injury time second half? It was only six minutes but he played nearer eight and it felt like a lot longer! There were five subs and two stoppages requiring physios I think. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 3, 2020 8:25:22 GMT
Why did he play a million minutes of injury time second half? It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 3, 2020 8:33:18 GMT
Why did he play a million minutes of injury time second half? It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. I was always under the impression the ref decides how much stoppage time there is? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 3, 2020 8:34:49 GMT
We were fairly blatantly timewasting as well.
We outshithoused them last night. You love to see it.
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Post by femark on Dec 3, 2020 8:39:54 GMT
I thought he let the game flow more and have less free kicks than recent weeks. Not sure if having the crowd there made a difference.
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Post by Veritas on Dec 3, 2020 8:42:30 GMT
Best performance we have seen this year and one of the best since we came down.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 3, 2020 8:50:43 GMT
Just me who thought the cousins one was a red card then? Only seen it the once live last night so could well be wrong
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 3, 2020 8:54:44 GMT
I thought he did really well considering there were a lot of emotions with the return of the crowd. They put a lot of pressure on him and he stood up to it, with the dive for the pen, and the Cousins tackle. It would have been hugely popular to have sent him off. Luckily he missed Powell's assault on their player who was injured as a result. That was a let off and would have changed the game. I thought he was the best ref we've had so far as the standard is generally poor. I think "assault" is a bit harsh on Powell. If the defender hasn't got his arms all over Powell then he doesn't get hurt when Powell stops running... |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 3, 2020 8:55:37 GMT
Just me who thought the cousins one was a red card then? Only seen it the once live last night so could well be wrong He was late, but genuine attempt at the ball. Their lad jumping so high made it look worse. |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Dec 3, 2020 8:56:17 GMT
Easy to say he was great when the big decisions went for us but do genuinely think his overall performance was excellent. Cousins 50/50, bad but not as horrific as it looked.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2020 9:04:26 GMT
Just me who thought the cousins one was a red card then? Only seen it the once live last night so could well be wrong Thought it was orange. Don’t think you could argue had he walked because it was scissory. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 3, 2020 9:19:24 GMT
It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. I was always under the impression the ref decides how much stoppage time there is? They do. Plus or minus a couple of minutes depending on if we’re winning or losing. |
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 3, 2020 9:31:26 GMT
The incident with Powell at the start of the second the physio was on for a good 3 minutes, didn't see it but the sky commentator said he'd seen the replay and it was nothing he just fell awkward.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 3, 2020 9:42:50 GMT
Think he favoured us overall. We would have been fuming if Cousins had stayed on but fair play for trying to keep game 11 v 11
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 3, 2020 9:57:12 GMT
It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. I was always under the impression the ref decides how much stoppage time there is? It appears you are right - I thought it was the ref. As regards the original 6 minutes of added time, I suspect with 5 subs a side (in 3 windows a side) now being allowed, added time (especially in the second half) may now be a minute or two longer than it used to be if/when large numbers of subs are used. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 3, 2020 10:04:28 GMT
And credit to the linesman as well - the crowd and the Wycombe players were baying for a red and he could easily have caved in but didn't.
It was a yellow for me - their player's gymnastic display made it look far worse than it was.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Dec 3, 2020 10:25:08 GMT
Yeah, strong performance by the ref, there were one or two fouls by defenders or attackers for both teams going up for headers that he didn't blow for and at the time I was thinking 'is he just going to let Akinfenwa shove somebody in the back every time he jumps?' - but as we saw against Sheffield Wednesday, blowing for every single one of them can destroy the game, so well played by the referee.
The only thing I think he got wrong was booking McClean for diving in the middle of the park, don't think anybody stays on their feet running at full pelt in that situation and who the shit gets booked for diving in the middle of the park? Thought it was a pretty obvious freekick but even with that I do like to see a ref prepared not to take any bollocks from players (defenders facing their own goal usually) buying soft freekicks, it's one of the most frustrating parts of the game. Norwich were particularly bad with it against us, defenders chucking themselves to the ground any time they were competing for the ball with an attacker - I feel like with this ref there'd have been none of that bollocks allowed.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 3, 2020 10:30:57 GMT
Yeah, strong performance by the ref, there were one or two fouls by defenders or attackers for both teams going up for headers that he didn't blow for and at the time I was thinking 'is he just going to let Akinfenwa shove somebody in the back every time he jumps?' - but as we saw against Sheffield Wednesday, blowing for every single one of them can destroy the game, so well played by the referee. The only thing I think he got wrong was booking McClean for diving in the middle of the park, don't think anybody stays on their feet running at full pelt in that situation and who the shit gets booked for diving in the middle of the park? Thought it was a pretty obvious freekick but even with that I do like to see a ref prepared not to take any bollocks from players (defenders facing their own goal usually) buying soft freekicks, it's one of the most frustrating parts of the game. Norwich were particularly bad with it against us, defenders chucking themselves to the ground any time they were competing for the ball with an attacker - I feel like with this ref there'd have been none of that bollocks allowed. I agree re: the McClean booking you cant stay on your feet running at that speed, he had to change direction because the defender came at him and basically had to go down. It was easily 6 mins to be added. Powell was down 2-3 mins and their player was down a good 3 mins before he went off. It probably should have been more than 6 mins with subs and a goal. Apparently the Luton ref gave some terrible decisions last night that the reporter felt were influenced by the Luton home crowd. I'll be happy if we get Refs like last night for the rest of the season though. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 3, 2020 10:46:47 GMT
I think the Cousin's one he felt the Wycombe player was guilty of exaggerating as he had a stern word with him when he was back on his feet. Agree it could have been a sending off but I'm glad to see a referee warning players for simulating injury to try to get players sent off.
I also think he let a lot of pushing go unpunished in fact it's all Akinfenwa did once he came on so it's a bit rich of Ainsworth to complain about Stoke's rough house tactics. I also felt that when Powell missed the open goal from Tyrese's pass that there was a really late sliding challenge on him after he'd shot which any where on the pitch would have been a free kick so why did no one think that it was a penalty?
He did seem to be playing until they had lost the ball in our penalty area but we brought that on ourselves through time wasting. Clucas booked for time wasting was in added on time so understandable that there was nearer 8 than 6 extra minutes. Glad to see a referee do that. Too many times there is no time added to the added on minutes.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 3, 2020 17:45:38 GMT
I was always under the impression the ref decides how much stoppage time there is? It appears you are right - I thought it was the ref. As regards the original 6 minutes of added time, I suspect with 5 subs a side (in 3 windows a side) now being allowed, added time (especially in the second half) may now be a minute or two longer than it used to be if/when large numbers of subs are used. It's the same number of stoppages though, shouldn't make any substantial difference? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 3, 2020 19:02:29 GMT
It appears you are right - I thought it was the ref. As regards the original 6 minutes of added time, I suspect with 5 subs a side (in 3 windows a side) now being allowed, added time (especially in the second half) may now be a minute or two longer than it used to be if/when large numbers of subs are used. It's the same number of stoppages though, shouldn't make any substantial difference? I think with 5 allowed instead of 3 managers are more likely to make use of the 3 windows than they have done sometimes in the past. |
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Dec 3, 2020 19:10:13 GMT
It's the same number of stoppages though, shouldn't make any substantial difference? I think with 5 allowed instead of 3 managers are more likely to make use of the 3 windows than they have done sometimes in the past.
30-seconds per substitute, so if there are six stoppages for the 10-subs there's a minimum of three minutes.
30-seconds per goal, too.
Based on that, with no injuries, you're looking at three and a half minutes last night.
And, of course, the time displayed is a "minimum" and should be treated as such...
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Post by wherty on Dec 3, 2020 19:11:48 GMT
Why did he play a million minutes of injury time second half? It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. The ref decides injury time and informs the 4th official via their mics. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 3, 2020 19:17:06 GMT
I don’t see how people are saying the Cousins one could have been a red? It was nowhere near a red.
Completely missed the ball and took out the man but it’s a silly yellow and nothing more. Reaction of the players makes it look like a red and made the referee think twice about it.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 3, 2020 19:18:19 GMT
It was the 4th official who decided it was 6 minutes. Then, during extra time, there was an injury delay (TOB?) so he (rightly) added over a minute on for that. The ref decides injury time and informs the 4th official via their mics. Yes, I acknowledged that several hours ago after it was pointed out several times on the thread!  |
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Post by hughjarse on Dec 3, 2020 19:21:02 GMT
I think with 5 allowed instead of 3 managers are more likely to make use of the 3 windows than they have done sometimes in the past.
30-seconds per substitute, so if there are six stoppages for the 10-subs there's a minimum of three minutes.
30-seconds per goal, too.
Based on that, with no injuries, you're looking at three and a half minutes last night.
And, of course, the time displayed is a "minimum" and should be treated as such...
It felt like there should be 3-4 minutes added on and he added six. Then there was a 30 second delay and he added a further two minutes. Or at least that's how if felt from behind my sofa 🤣🤣 |
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Post by onepara on Dec 3, 2020 19:22:32 GMT
His name was of course :- Mr. Bond.
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