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Tom Ince
Aug 26, 2021 18:55:59 GMT
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Post by TinkerT on Aug 26, 2021 18:55:59 GMT
He's always been good defensively and helped out when needed to double up with the fullback when he played. I certainly think he could do a job at rwb if his head is In the right place
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Post by stokesaint1 on Aug 26, 2021 19:18:12 GMT
Just get him gone (assuming anyone will take him). He's had chance after chance, year after year, manager after manager and he's fluffed it every time. Probably has the skill in there somewhere but just not the application. Embarrassingly one footed and has been a huge disappointment. The Luton supporters who are dreading him ending up there have him summed up just right. A legend in his own (and his dad's) mind.
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Tom Ince
Aug 26, 2021 21:18:54 GMT
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Post by gogogadget on Aug 26, 2021 21:18:54 GMT
He's always been good defensively and helped out when needed to double up with the fullback when he played. I certainly think he could do a job at rwb if his head is In the right place 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good try. Good defensively 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 26, 2021 22:59:34 GMT
He's always been good defensively and helped out when needed to double up with the fullback when he played. I certainly think he could do a job at rwb if his head is In the right place
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Post by hotpot on Aug 27, 2021 1:02:08 GMT
The guy's petrified. He's past it and long gone. Fielding him against Doncaster simply denied another of our lesser known players, experience and exposure. Ince is no defender, surely everyone can see it. He's been up for sale for yonks and no club has bitten. He will not feature, once MON drafts in another right back as cover for Smith.
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Tom Ince
Aug 27, 2021 5:13:44 GMT
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Post by TinkerT on Aug 27, 2021 5:13:44 GMT
He's always been good defensively and helped out when needed to double up with the fullback when he played. I certainly think he could do a job at rwb if his head is In the right place 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good try. Good defensively 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So when he played he didn't track back constantly then no? If anything he spent too much time defending.
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Post by gogogadget on Aug 27, 2021 11:29:52 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣 good try. Good defensively 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So when he played he didn't track back constantly then no? If anything he spent too much time defending. Tracking back doesn’t mean he is defending. He has the ability to make himself look busy while not really doing much at all. Very weak in challenges, often ducks out. I’ll quite happily give him the chance to prove me wrong. Also if he stays I hope his confidence comes back and he has a great season. But based on what I have seen so far, other than a great strike at charlton, I’ve seen little to justify his price or salary
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Tom Ince
Aug 27, 2021 11:34:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 11:34:39 GMT
I’m pretty sure that we tried converting a seasoned out and out winger to wingback a couple of years ago. Since then, he’s moved to Man City, won the World Cup, shagged a Princess.
Oh no, I remember now. Nine times out of ten there’s a reason a player has made a career in a specific position and it’s often based on that being the only position that they are very much any good at!
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Tom Ince
Aug 27, 2021 15:16:02 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Aug 27, 2021 15:16:02 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣 good try. Good defensively 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So when he played he didn't track back constantly then no? If anything he spent too much time defending. Tracked back and never put a tackle in.
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Tom Ince
Aug 31, 2021 21:54:35 GMT
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 31, 2021 21:54:35 GMT
Big cut in wages was an issue Seems that he’s happy to be a bit part player here at Stoke for now I can’t even see him getting in many of the match day squads tbh
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 31, 2021 21:56:52 GMT
Big cut in wages was an issue Seems that he’s happy to be a bit part player here at Stoke for now I can’t even see him getting in many of the match day squads tbh No surprise really. His love for football is reflected in his performances. Hopefully we can rid ourselves of him in January.
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 31, 2021 22:35:33 GMT
Big cut in wages was an issue Seems that he’s happy to be a bit part player here at Stoke for now I can’t even see him getting in many of the match day squads tbh No surprise really. His love for football is reflected in his performances. Hopefully we can rid ourselves of him in January. Agreed, I think playing pro football is for him primarily a wage. Doesn't look like he enjoys it at all, even pictures at past clubs he has a face like a smacked arse! He will be gone in January.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 1, 2021 8:41:23 GMT
No surprise really. His love for football is reflected in his performances. Hopefully we can rid ourselves of him in January. Agreed, I think playing pro football is for him primarily a wage. Doesn't look like he enjoys it at all, even pictures at past clubs he has a face like a smacked arse! He will be gone in January. Who would want him based on his performances at Stoke?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 1, 2021 8:46:05 GMT
The Transfer Window is still open in several countries across Europe including our Turkish friends, so there's still a chance he could depart on loan I guess?
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Post by lordb on Sept 1, 2021 10:26:53 GMT
Agreed, I think playing pro football is for him primarily a wage. Doesn't look like he enjoys it at all, even pictures at past clubs he has a face like a smacked arse! He will be gone in January. Who would want him based on his performances at Stoke? apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 1, 2021 11:15:12 GMT
Who would want him based on his performances at Stoke? apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. Edit: basically, I get the impression Tom Ince does try his best, but his best hasn't justified his transfer fee or reputation before he came to Stoke, despite being one of our better players in that first season. It's not his fault he came to a basketcase of a club.
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Post by lordb on Sept 1, 2021 11:17:56 GMT
apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. 'He was one of our best players' erm...no? for the 1st half of that season he had some very good games (& some duff ones) after Rowett left he was shit & has been shit in almost every game since he's finished now.
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Post by werrington on Sept 1, 2021 11:23:05 GMT
Who would want him based on his performances at Stoke? apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football And who are we to criticise
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 1, 2021 11:33:36 GMT
I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. 'He was one of our best players' erm...no? for the 1st half of that season he had some very good games (& some duff ones) after Rowett left he was shit & has been shit in almost every game since he's finished now. Looking at that first season as a whole, which players were better than Ince? You said yourself he had some very good games. Almost every player performed worse than expected and others it seemed weren't really given a chance (Bojan, Diouf, arguably Campbell).
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Tom Ince
Sept 1, 2021 11:45:20 GMT
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Post by sticky on Sept 1, 2021 11:45:20 GMT
He’s been a major disappointment here, and he’s had More than enough chances to prove himself .. upto him if he wants to stay and get paid well for not playing football. I find it quite sad but you can’t blame the player
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 1, 2021 11:56:00 GMT
apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. Edit: basically, I get the impression Tom Ince does try his best, but his best hasn't justified his transfer fee or reputation before he came to Stoke, despite being one of our better players in that first season. It's not his fault he came to a basketcase of a club. I’m sure we’ve all had jobs that we haven’t necessarily liked. However one thing I can say about myself is that despite not liking a job I still put in effort and delivered good performance. I’m not sure the same can be said of Ince. If he is putting in effort, then perhaps he’s just not a particularly good footballer for the level we are at and wish to aspire to anymore. Maybe he’s lost it?
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Post by hotpot on Sept 2, 2021 1:33:50 GMT
No club has taken the bait on Ince. We are stuck with him, and will just have to wait it out until his contract ends. Just do not let him anywhere near the first team. We can only pray he is gone in the next transfer window.
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Tom Ince
Sept 2, 2021 1:42:09 GMT
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Post by robbieabdoulaye on Sept 2, 2021 1:42:09 GMT
Hard to believe he would get double digit goals regularly at this level prior to joining us at what was approaching his prime ! Money got to his head
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Post by s7oke on Sept 2, 2021 3:38:09 GMT
apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. Edit: basically, I get the impression Tom Ince does try his best, but his best hasn't justified his transfer fee or reputation before he came to Stoke, despite being one of our better players in that first season. It's not his fault he came to a basketcase of a club. 10 clubs in 10 seasons says differently He likes to point a lot at where he wanted the ball and likes to lose the ball a lot by being greedy His decision making is shit Probably the most one footed footballer I have ever seen Does track back a lot to look busy but won’t tackle so what’s the point Let’s just say I wouldn’t want him in the trenches with me
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2021 8:08:33 GMT
apparently Luton, Ipswich & Sunderland none of which have committed to paying enough so it appears that the player has decided to not play any football & take his wages for another year rather than take a hit & play football And who are we to criticise It is a strange one. There’s not many professions where you’d deride someone for not taking a pay cut when it’s not needed 😂
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 2, 2021 8:30:11 GMT
I feel like Tom Ince is harshly treated on this forum for his time at Stoke. He was one of our best players in his first season with us. Underwhelming when looking at his previous Championship form, definitely. But we had a basketcase of a squad with a general malaise around the club and two managers in Rowett and Jones who (with hindsight) were wrong-place-wrong-time, and Ince doesn't seem to have recovered from that. So what if he doesn't love football? Why should he take a pay cut? He's good enough to make an impact at Stoke this season and hopefully he thinks he can do that, whether it's until January or the end of the season. Many players who don't love football have had successful careers, including at a much higher level than Ince. Why should footballers be held to a higher level than the rest of us when it comes to loving a job or not? Football is different of course, but it doesn't mean every player should have to love their job or take a pay cut to play more. And that's assuming Ince doesn't enjoy playing professional football - who are we to say he doesn't? Not everyone shows it through their body language or whatever. Edit: basically, I get the impression Tom Ince does try his best, but his best hasn't justified his transfer fee or reputation before he came to Stoke, despite being one of our better players in that first season. It's not his fault he came to a basketcase of a club. 10 clubs in 10 seasons says differently He likes to point a lot at where he wanted the ball and likes to lose the ball a lot by being greedy His decision making is shit Probably the most one footed footballer I have ever seen Does track back a lot to look busy but won’t tackle so what’s the point Let’s just say I wouldn’t want him in the trenches with me I’ve said this before on here… he’s mastered the art of racing back to look busy, but not quite making it in time to put a challenge in. It’s quite a skill.
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Tom Ince
Sept 2, 2021 9:10:43 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 2, 2021 9:10:43 GMT
This thread has been running since Nov. 2020, get off of his back. He's been doing well recently.
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Tom Ince
Sept 2, 2021 10:52:48 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Sept 2, 2021 10:52:48 GMT
This thread has been running since Nov. 2020, get off of his back. He's been doing well recently. For all the money he’s earned he should be playing like ronaldo in back payments
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Post by lordb on Sept 2, 2021 11:08:51 GMT
'He was one of our best players' erm...no? for the 1st half of that season he had some very good games (& some duff ones) after Rowett left he was shit & has been shit in almost every game since he's finished now. Looking at that first season as a whole, which players were better than Ince? You said yourself he had some very good games. Almost every player performed worse than expected and others it seemed weren't really given a chance (Bojan, Diouf, arguably Campbell). well we had a poor season so yes it's a tallest dwarf competition
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Tom Ince
Sept 2, 2021 11:10:52 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Sept 2, 2021 11:10:52 GMT
'He was one of our best players' erm...no? for the 1st half of that season he had some very good games (& some duff ones) after Rowett left he was shit & has been shit in almost every game since he's finished now. Looking at that first season as a whole, which players were better than Ince? You said yourself he had some very good games. Almost every player performed worse than expected and others it seemed weren't really given a chance (Bojan, Diouf, arguably Campbell). He was good for the first 3rd of the season and has been poor to average ever since.The Basket Case of a squad that you refer to ( of which he was “championship royalty”) cost around £70m to assemble. If he is such a good player, why has he been sold / moved on by 9 clubs. With Ince it’s a case of The Emporor’s New Clothes- once you really look there is very little there anymore.
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