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Post by ab61 on Oct 18, 2020 7:47:43 GMT
To be honest I don’t think the Jones interview is that bad. Exactly what I would expect him to say. Even when he was Stoke manager he would have said similar. A bit of what he says is also spot on. Bit to precious on here and need to move on. I’m just glad he’s now nowhere near our club and we now have the best manager in the championship 👍
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 18, 2020 8:01:27 GMT
It was exactly the same for Luton as when he was manager for us
They (Luton) played ok first half without really looking threatening, once we scored Luton looked dreadful
How many times did we say that last season under Jones, pleased he hasn’t changed
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Post by thevoid on Oct 18, 2020 8:25:56 GMT
Nathan Jones beating his chest after his rare victories didn’t prove he cared for Stoke. It merely showed he knew how to win the support of a few simpleton fans at a time he was massively under fire for taking our club to the brink of relegation with the most horrendous record of any manager of all time. If anything it underlined what a piss-taking charlatan he was. I have no idea whether Nick Powell wears red and white striped underpants on his holidays during the summer, but when he scores an important goal against the prat who bought him then decided not to pick him as we lost to utter dross week after week, then as far as I’m concerned he can take the piss with a clear conscience. He definitely wears red and white underpants just ignore the letters CAFC on them ;-) Dario bought a job lot of those from the club shop.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 18, 2020 8:29:09 GMT
Sean, I’m not defending Nath’s appalling record, I’m just saying we shouldn’t be lapping up a piss take from a currently employed player who gives less of a fuck about this football club than Jones did when he was employed. BM Very unprofessional from Powell I know, he might have got the crowd worked up 🤔
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Post by Roger Everyone on Oct 18, 2020 8:32:41 GMT
I am pleased NJ is doing "Good work" for Luton nowdays.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 18, 2020 8:51:54 GMT
Largely irrelevant to my eyes. Powell consistently produces at a decent level and Jones never did. I only care how much somebody’s heart is in it when it’s obviously not in it. Powell is a talented footballer but I’m not sure he gives a fuck about Stoke City beyond his pay cheque. Taking the piss out of a bloke who clearly did give a fuck is classless and juvenile. BM I think Nathan gives a fuck about Nathan. Taking the piss out of someone who lost his job in part by refusing to play 2 of his better players in Campbell and Powell is funny and justified.
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Post by oldschool on Oct 18, 2020 9:00:20 GMT
I couldn’t care less who cared more. I care more about Stoke City than Arnautovic ever did, and he didn’t always show ‘class’ as you say, but ask me who I’d prefer to play left wing I agree with you. My point is Powell is classless for taking the piss out of Jones for having heart and caring. You get that yeah? Jones was a fucking disaster for us, absolutely , but I don’t hate him for it because he cared and showed heart and I don’t want to see anyone take the piss out of him because he had heart. Take the piss because he fucked up if you want but it had nothing to do with ‘heart’. BM I really hope this is satirical and you’re taking the piss. Firstly, you don’t hate the bloke?! The fucking idiot signed Jordan Cousins and said it was a ‘massive coup for the club.’ That’s the first sign the geezers got no clue. He then almost single handedly took us down to league 1. I genuinely thought we were goners. If you don’t hate him for that you need to go and have a word with yourself. Where’s your passion? Secondly, Nathan Jones passion for Stoke? It wouldn’t be hard to beat your chest on a pitch to win a few fans over! His performance as a manager was shit. By keeping fans onside he stayed in role for longer than he should. He learned from Rowett where it all went wrong. Don’t mistake tomfoolery for passion my friend. Thirdly. Nick Powell doesn’t give a shit about Stoke? I absolutely agree! I’ve read his interviews. HOWEVER if he turns in more good displays than bad, I couldn’t care. I don’t really give a fuck about my employer, however I work to the best of my ability. Fourthly, classless Powell for taking the piss?! Wow! Football really has gone downhill if you can’t take the piss. I bet you’re a fucking saint aren’t you? Once football becomes a sport with no pisstaking count me out! Apologies, but I think you’re as deluded as Nathan Jones for berating one of our own! Get a grip man. Go for a pint with the lads and take your missus knickers off 😉😂
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 18, 2020 10:32:12 GMT
Powell is a talented footballer but I’m not sure he gives a fuck about Stoke City beyond his pay cheque. Taking the piss out of a bloke who clearly did give a fuck is classless and juvenile. BM I think Nathan gives a fuck about Nathan. Taking the piss out of someone who lost his job in part by refusing to play 2 of his better players in Campbell and Powell is funny and justified. Spot on. Jones is a complete and utter narcissitic charlatan who just saw £££ when he managed to easily convince a naieve exec that he was capable of doing a job. He did a job alright - a fucking bad one from the get go and those chest-beating circuits around the ground after a very rare win were just to keep the illusion of "caring" going for the exec - he would NEVER have resigned no matter how bad it got as there was too much £££ at stake. Powell was quite rightly giving it back to the nail-biting fraud - and I don't care if he "cares" or not - caring is overated and the days of our players retiring and becoming our postman are long gone - we want competant, skilful professionals not fucking "carers".
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Post by lordb on Oct 18, 2020 10:45:57 GMT
I agree with you. My point is Powell is classless for taking the piss out of Jones for having heart and caring. You get that yeah? Jones was a fucking disaster for us, absolutely , but I don’t hate him for it because he cared and showed heart and I don’t want to see anyone take the piss out of him because he had heart. Take the piss because he fucked up if you want but it had nothing to do with ‘heart’. BM I really hope this is satirical and you’re taking the piss. Firstly, you don’t hate the bloke?! The fucking idiot signed Jordan Cousins and said it was a ‘massive coup for the club.’ That’s the first sign the geezers got no clue. He then almost single handedly took us down to league 1. I genuinely thought we were goners. If you don’t hate him for that you need to go and have a word with yourself. Where’s your passion? Secondly, Nathan Jones passion for Stoke? It wouldn’t be hard to beat your chest on a pitch to win a few fans over! His performance as a manager was shit. By keeping fans onside he stayed in role for longer than he should. He learned from Rowett where it all went wrong. Don’t mistake tomfoolery for passion my friend. Thirdly. Nick Powell doesn’t give a shit about Stoke? I absolutely agree! I’ve read his interviews. HOWEVER if he turns in more good displays than bad, I couldn’t care. I don’t really give a fuck about my employer, however I work to the best of my ability. Fourthly, classless Powell for taking the piss?! Wow! Football really has gone downhill if you can’t take the piss. I bet you’re a fucking saint aren’t you? Once football becomes a sport with no pisstaking count me out! Apologies, but I think you’re as deluded as Nathan Jones for berating one of our own! Get a grip man. Go for a pint with the lads and take your missus knickers off 😉😂 Did he really say that about Cousins? As it happens Cousins has turned out to be not as bad as we probably expected however he's still lucky to be here. Astonishing thing to say by Jones that.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 18, 2020 10:56:32 GMT
'Hate' is a word I rarely use. But I do use it. I hated Thatcher because she destroyed our society and Blair for taking us into a war that we shouldn't have touched with a barge pole, but I wouldn't use it against a football manager who came with the best intentions and then found himself completely out of his depth when he got here. Regarding Powell's reactions, I think I prefer Skip's point that it was personal between him and Jones more than anything else.
OS.
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 18, 2020 10:59:56 GMT
'Hate' is a word I rarely use. But I do use it. I hated Thatcher because she destroyed our society and Blair for taking us into a war that we shouldn't have touched with a barge pole, but I wouldn't use it against a football manager who came with the best intentions and then found himself completely out of his depth when he got here. Regarding Powell's reactions, I think I prefer Skip's point that it was personal between him and Jones more than anything else. OS. What it does say is there isn't too much love lost between the players and Jones, which I wasn't expecting. I thought they probably considered him OK, but no real annoyances, that opinion has changed for sure.
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Post by march4 on Oct 18, 2020 11:00:31 GMT
Jones can say what he wants. Hopefully we will finish 20 places higher than his team come the end of the season.
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Post by mrsocko on Oct 18, 2020 11:09:00 GMT
Saw he was making hints along the same lines of the old chestnut he used to roll out here every week, that being 'we were the better side between the 2 boxes'. He can have that little nugget of consolation seeing how clinical we were in their box and how composed and organised we were behind the ball, especially when we got wise to the wide runners looking to cut inside whilst the full back looked to pin the wing backs back saying the better side between the two boxes is the most irrelevant thing possible, those are the only two areas that actually matter to the outcome
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 18, 2020 11:32:14 GMT
Nice to see that the Luton club shop stocks those extra small black track suits that Nathan loves to wear, zipped up to his chin.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 18, 2020 11:36:29 GMT
Like listening on auto repeat when he was here.
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Post by chamberlain on Oct 18, 2020 11:52:48 GMT
What does"without really really scoring"mean ?
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 18, 2020 11:59:12 GMT
Problem with Jones is that he could fall in a pile of horse shit and come up smelling of Dior Sauvage in his own little world.
That fucker had us in a relegation battle from game 1 of last season and his inability to actually change his ways. And I cannot believe I fell for the hype after his first half season of shit results when Rowett left. I realise now what a moron I was.
He can talk statistics all he wants. It’s the goals that count, and they scored zilch. Nada. Zero. Nothing. Nathan Jones is Jesus Christ in his own mind.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Oct 18, 2020 11:59:55 GMT
What does"without really really scoring"mean ? I think it means Luton Nil.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2020 12:02:27 GMT
I mean we were bad in that first half but they matched that and then got worse in the second.
I think a decent side scores at least one against us in that first half. They were getting in behind Smith almost at will and it was only down to Davies and shit finishing they didn’t score. That’s not something to brag about from their POV.
He’s a deluded shitbag.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 18, 2020 13:59:29 GMT
Thank God he's gone for all fucking time. Didn’t watch but Luton play the diamond today mate? Curious if he’s still persevering with it Diamonds.....more like unpolished turds?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 18, 2020 16:12:48 GMT
Luton, 5 games played in the league:
3 wins.... Barnsley (A) Derby (H) Wycombe (H) (3 clubs that are currently struggling in the bottom 4!!!)
2 loses: Watford (A) Stoke (H) (2 clubs that aren't currently struggling!!! )
🤔
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Post by StaffordPotter on Oct 18, 2020 18:19:57 GMT
He gave way too much of a fuck it was embarrassing. Won his first game after 8 games and celebrated like he won the World Cup. Blokes a tool Sean, I’m not defending Nath’s appalling record, I’m just saying we shouldn’t be lapping up a piss take from a currently employed player who gives less of a fuck about this football club than Jones did when he was employed. BM Can I be your friend? You sound like a right laugh.
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Post by oldschool on Oct 18, 2020 22:20:25 GMT
'Hate' is a word I rarely use. But I do use it. I hated Thatcher because she destroyed our society and Blair for taking us into a war that we shouldn't have touched with a barge pole, but I wouldn't use it against a football manager who came with the best intentions and then found himself completely out of his depth when he got here. Regarding Powell's reactions, I think I prefer Skip's point that it was personal between him and Jones more than anything else. OS. I do agree he came with the best of intentions. He was completely out of his depth as you put it. However rather than learning, or getting the relevant experience in his coaching staff to be a trusted lieutenant, his arrogance took him forward. He thought he could make McClean a left back and even used the reference of doing similar at Luton. And then the autumn of last year, he still didn’t stand down, he just kept going. He relied on the goodwill of fans to keep him in situ. For that, yeah, I hate the geezer. He nearly took the club I love to the third tier. I don’t think we’d of ever recovered from that!
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Post by pez75 on Oct 19, 2020 8:27:10 GMT
Ha, love it Powell, keep it up!
Fuck Jones, and fuck all the idiots who fall for the chest-thumping charlatan. 'Cared for this club' - my arse, he had just had a potential rocket up the career ladder and that is all he cares about, like 99% of everyone else involved in football. The passion card gets played for effect, mainly because he knew he was out of his depth and had to make up the difference to anyone watching. He can hardly play that card at Luton now seeing as he dumped them once already. NJ will be managing in L2 or lower in a few yrs time.
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Post by Stoke711 on Oct 19, 2020 8:38:29 GMT
To be honest I don’t think the Jones interview is that bad. Exactly what I would expect him to say. Even when he was Stoke manager he would have said similar. A bit of what he says is also spot on. Bit to precious on here and need to move on. I’m just glad he’s now nowhere near our club and we now have the best manager in the championship 👍 Also Luton did batter us, had it been the other way around, I'd be pissed if we didn't get something from the game.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 19, 2020 9:44:48 GMT
To be honest I don’t think the Jones interview is that bad. Exactly what I would expect him to say. Even when he was Stoke manager he would have said similar. A bit of what he says is also spot on. Bit to precious on here and need to move on. I’m just glad he’s now nowhere near our club and we now have the best manager in the championship 👍 Also Luton did batter us, had it been the other way around, I'd be pissed if we didn't get something from the game. Did they, I remember Davies making one good save
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2020 9:49:51 GMT
Also Luton did batter us, had it been the other way around, I'd be pissed if we didn't get something from the game. Did they, I remember Davies making one good save First half when they got in down the right but hit it wide, that was a good chance and there was a few other good situations they got into in the first half that they fucked up too. They didn't batter us but we were lucky not to go in at half time a goal down imo.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 19, 2020 9:55:01 GMT
Did they, I remember Davies making one good save First half when they got in down the right but hit it wide, that was a good chance and there was a few other good situations they got into in the first half that they fucked up too. They didn't batter us but we were lucky not to go in at half time a goal down imo. Yeh you could probably make the case that 2-1 would’ve been fair but the xg suggests they in no way battered us
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 9:55:34 GMT
Did they, I remember Davies making one good save First half when they got in down the right but hit it wide, that was a good chance and there was a few other good situations they got into in the first half that they fucked up too. They didn't batter us but we were lucky not to go in at half time a goal down imo. Why were we lucky? They had very few opportunities and the opportunities they had (Elliot Lee left foot and Pelly Ruddock right foot smashed across the goal) they messed up. If it was Stoke in that situation the general consensus would be "We weren't unlucky to go in goalless, it was poor finishing". I thought Luton were poor throughout and that we controlled the pace of the game throughout. Bar the odd ball over the top for Cornick or the ball up to Hylton they offered very little indeed. If we are judging the game by those standards, you could say Campbell was unlucky in the first half and so was Brown's pass to Clucas and Clucas's chance in the second half that fell to Smith - we were unlucky to not win by 4 or 5. The truth is in the middle. We dealt with what little they threw at us and we took our chances - ergo we fully deserved our comfortable victory.
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Post by Stoke711 on Oct 19, 2020 9:56:58 GMT
Also Luton did batter us, had it been the other way around, I'd be pissed if we didn't get something from the game. Did they, I remember Davies making one good save Davies made 2 good saves in the second half. Just because their finishing wasnt brilliant doesn't mean they weren't all over us. We didn't create a lot and sucker punched them. Our overall play wasn't brilliant, it was a brilliant result however.
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