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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 18, 2020 9:06:03 GMT
Agreed - the diagonal cross for the goal (with his left foot) was excellent and his back heel in the build up to the second goal was also crucial. He sometimes makes the wrong choices though - but that should improve with experience. The only big mistake he made yesterday was very early into the match when he did a great dribble into the penalty area and opted to shoot at the keeper and 2 defenders guarding the near post when a cut back to an unmarked Powell a few yards away in the penalty area would have been a much better option with a goal almost certainly being the result. Powell let him know about it as well (as you can see on the highlights on the Official site) - which is the way it should be. He should definitely go for goal in that position, only a defenders blocking leg stopped him scoring Campbell is a real threat Sorry I can't agree. There were 2 defenders and a keeper at that near post and the angle was tight. For me the odds were against a goal if he shot. Powell on the other hand was a few yards away in acres of space and with no defender between him and Campbell. Opinions eh?
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Post by armitage21 on Oct 18, 2020 11:03:33 GMT
One of the things l like about Ty is his preparedness to shoot. OK it won't always be the right decision but how often have we walked off the ground shaking our heads that our forward players have taken the easy option rather than back themselves?
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Post by march4 on Oct 18, 2020 11:06:38 GMT
After 5 games, TP also had 2 wins, 2 draws and a defeat in our last promotion season. Durban had 4 wins and a draw. Waddo had 3 draws and 2 defeats After 5 games in 92/93 Lou had 1 win, 2 draws and 2 defeats After 5 games in 98/99 Brian Little had 5 wins. (Our second win in 92/93 was that awesome 4-3 win against the Baggies) We weren’t promoted from this division on those occasions though.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 18, 2020 11:16:27 GMT
After 5 games in 92/93 Lou had 1 win, 2 draws and 2 defeats After 5 games in 98/99 Brian Little had 5 wins. (Our second win in 92/93 was that awesome 4-3 win against the Baggies) We weren’t promoted from this division on those occasions though. 92/93 we were! But the point is, I think, supports your point - a good start does not, necessarily, result in promotion. On the contrary, as we saw with Mr Little, a perfect start produced a somewhat less than perfect season.
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Post by meirman61 on Oct 18, 2020 11:39:02 GMT
He should definitely go for goal in that position, only a defenders blocking leg stopped him scoring Campbell is a real threat Sorry I can't agree. There were 2 defenders and a keeper at that near post and the angle was tight. For me the odds were against a goal if he shot. Powell on the other hand was a few yards away in acres of space and with no defender between him and Campbell. Opinions eh? Unfortunately a goal hungry striker isn't going to pass in that position he'll only see the goal and not the simple pass,nature of the beast I'm afraid
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 11:41:07 GMT
And then you have a situation later in the game where Brown dribbled his way into a goalscoring opportunity only to lose it by trying to find Clucas when a shot looks better. Hindsight surely on both accounts It certainly isn't hindsight from me. I watched the game live and in the first incident I screamed for Campbell to pass - as the odds were far better for a shot by Powell, the chances of Campbell scoring at the near post always looked poor. In the second incident, either shooting or passing to Clucas were both reasonable options. Brown chose one which didn't work because his pass was poor - had he chosen the other option he might have scored or he might have missed. Hopefully as his skill level and composure improves, his chances of scoring or getting an assist improve. I couldn't imagine you screaming at the TV, more adjusting your tweed Sherlock Holmes style , walking hat in frustration and waving your corinium rambling cane at the wireless
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2020 11:47:29 GMT
We look more solid when Batth is in and Chester is out! Batth and Collins were terrible in the first half.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 11:50:02 GMT
We weren’t promoted from this division on those occasions though. 92/93 we were! But the point is, I think, supports your point - a good start does not, necessarily, result in promotion. On the contrary, as we saw with Mr Little, a perfect start produced a somewhat less than perfect season. Of course not but the last 7 or 8 month perhaps suggest there is a chance we could have a decent season
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Post by tqstokie on Oct 18, 2020 12:08:07 GMT
Souttar and Collins must be kept with Another of Baath, Chester or Lyndsay in a three. IMHO Collins was out of position yesterday, he should have been on the right, Souttar in the middle and AN Other on the left. They all did their jobs yesterday even first half so no complaints from me!
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Post by Goonie on Oct 18, 2020 12:08:54 GMT
Adam Davies is a bloody good goalkeeper 13 games, 5 goals conceded, 9 clean sheets. Phenomenal stats...... Everything that Butland once was but alas no more
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Post by Goonie on Oct 18, 2020 12:11:08 GMT
Mikel playing on respiration - a really good defensive midfielder would be an asset You have to expect him to breath at this or any level to be fair 🤣
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 18, 2020 12:13:04 GMT
92/93 we were! But the point is, I think, supports your point - a good start does not, necessarily, result in promotion. On the contrary, as we saw with Mr Little, a perfect start produced a somewhat less than perfect season. Of course not but the last 7 or 8 month perhaps suggest there is a chance we could have a decent season Absolutely. I more than happy with the start to the season. Coming out of the blocks fast isn’t important. That said, not even leaving the blocks, as last season, is never good news!!
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Post by march4 on Oct 18, 2020 12:19:10 GMT
After 5 games, TP also had 2 wins, 2 draws and a defeat in our last promotion season. Durban had 4 wins and a draw. Waddo had 3 draws and 2 defeats Last season reminded me of Macari, this season it's more Durban That’s good because Durban got us automatic promotion whereas Lou only reached the play offs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 12:19:38 GMT
Of course not but the last 7 or 8 month perhaps suggest there is a chance we could have a decent season Absolutely. I more than happy with the start to the season. Coming out of the blocks fast isn’t important. That said, not even leaving the blocks, as last season, is never good news!! We didn't actually leave the blocks last season until Noel's Xmas House Party was on TV which meant our season was over a s far as play offs were concerned despite some excellent form.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 18, 2020 12:28:55 GMT
Nathan Jones still is, and will always be a self-absorbed, delusional gimp.
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 18, 2020 12:36:00 GMT
Last season reminded me of Macari, this season it's more Durban That’s good because Durban got us automatic promotion whereas Lou only reached the play offs.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 18, 2020 12:52:08 GMT
1. If we continue with 3 at the back, it must be a 343 with Powell, Campbell and Fletcher as the first choice front 3. They give us goals and creativity. 2. The back three is still not quite right. Souttar should be in the middle (Batth as back up) and, if he starts, Collins on the right (Chester is the alternative). Left should be a choice between Fox (who should have the shirt for now) and Lindsay. The wide players have to be on their natural foot on the flank for me. 3. The middle two are not gelling - Mikel is not as mobile as he once was and Clucas' natural instinct is to drive forward not hold. Whisper it in case bayern hears, but we need Joe Allen in there badly. Thommo could rotate in until then. 4. Start the first half the way we started the second.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 18, 2020 12:56:29 GMT
The most important thing we're learning from each game is that MIchael O'Neil is a pragmatist and he also knows that Rome wasn't built in a day. He's on a complete rebuilding job. He also has no favourites and every player on the park is there for a reason. We may not know that reason and I'm sure that, at times, he'll get it wrong, but if he continues to get it more right than wrong then some fans need to be patient with him. I like the fact that he's beginning to blend experience with youth and he's prepared to bring in young players if their performances warrant it. He'll also drop them if the opposite happens. He's also very much aware that games will be coming thick and fast and he'll use all his squad of players to cope with that. He won't stick to the old adage of 'you don't change a winning team'. For him it's a 'winning squad'. I agree with him.
Onwards and upwards. That light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter slowly but surely and for the first time in about three years I feel really positive about our future.
OS.
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 18, 2020 12:58:34 GMT
1. Luton have had a quick start that looks like a bubble ready to burst. 2. We are still giving possession away too cheaply and "doing the Rashford" by passing backwards just once too often. 3. Agree with the above, not sure about the current midfield and you'd imagine Allen will slot in as soon as he is fit. 4. Thought the front 3 were a nuisance, especially Fletch and Campbell who looked to shoot when available. Powell goes down far too much for my liking, but has the skills to pick out the other two. So logically that is our starting 3 for most games.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 18, 2020 13:18:14 GMT
1. If we continue with 3 at the back, it must be a 343 with Powell, Campbell and Fletcher as the first choice front 3. They give us goals and creativity. 2. The back three is still not quite right. Souttar should be in the middle (Batth as back up) and, if he starts, Collins on the right (Chester is the alternative). Left should be a choice between Fox (who should have the shirt for now) and Lindsay. The wide players have to be on their natural foot on the flank for me. 3. The middle two are not gelling - Mikel is not as mobile as he once was and Clucas' natural instinct is to drive forward not hold. Whisper it in case bayern hears, but we need Joe Allen in there badly. Thommo could rotate in until then. 4. Start the first half the way we started the second. I don't for the life of me understand this pining for Allens return or why he is considered integral to our success. We have played 14 games without him returning 6 wins 4 draws and 4 losses (league only). Now I'm pretty sure (not scrutinised results) we haven't had those kind of figures during any of the time Allen was available to us. We started life with Joe Allen just after we finished our third 9th place in the PL and he last played when we were 3 pts clear of relegation just before the covid break. We are now (early days) creeping back up the table and looking pretty good. Can someone please explain why we would be any rush to remind ourselves of what its like to sink back down again?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 18, 2020 13:41:23 GMT
Think we need to be careful assuming any ‘mobility’ might be provided by Allen. It’s a dreadful injury and one that a lot of players, especially those nudging 30, are never quite the same again after suffering it. Ric was never the same. It finished Walters.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 18, 2020 13:47:32 GMT
Luton fans are even more deluded than first thought.
Apparently they dominated the game and is was a typical smash and grab by us...
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Post by Miracle Aligner on Oct 18, 2020 13:51:54 GMT
Our game management needs to be better in the final 10/15 minutes. It’s a real bugbear of mine. Davis pulled off a few fantastic saves at the end but we should be better in posession and not get the jitters. It was the same at Preston against the 10 men and on another day we could throw away a vital 3 points.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 18, 2020 14:08:53 GMT
Our game management needs to be better in the final 10/15 minutes. It’s a real bugbear of mine. Davis pulled off a few fantastic saves at the end but we should be better in posession and not get the jitters. It was the same at Preston against the 10 men and on another day we could throw away a vital 3 points. We often don't manage the end of games very well. Yesterday, however, I do think we suffered from the fact that all our substitutions were because of injury. That was unavoidable, and will not have helped MON to use his subs to help manage the final quarter of the game.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 18, 2020 14:14:34 GMT
Our game management needs to be better in the final 10/15 minutes. It’s a real bugbear of mine. Davis pulled off a few fantastic saves at the end but we should be better in posession and not get the jitters. It was the same at Preston against the 10 men and on another day we could throw away a vital 3 points. We often don't manage the end of games very well. Yesterday, however, I do think we suffered from the fact that all our substitutions were because of injury. That was unavoidable, and will not have helped MON to use his subs to help manage the final quarter of the game. Plus our bench was also not very defence minded because of injuries.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 18, 2020 14:23:40 GMT
We often don't manage the end of games very well. Yesterday, however, I do think we suffered from the fact that all our substitutions were because of injury. That was unavoidable, and will not have helped MON to use his subs to help manage the final quarter of the game. Plus our bench was also not very defence minded because of injuries. True! All the more frustrating that BMI got the move he wanted. Not that I blame us for letting him go, but I do regret that he had to be played so much at left back last season - he we been able to play him at cb (in a 2 or a 3) he might have been happier to stay. EDIT: I really thought when he captained us to a good win in the League Cup, that it might mean he would be happy to stay.
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Post by Miracle Aligner on Oct 18, 2020 14:29:28 GMT
Our game management needs to be better in the final 10/15 minutes. It’s a real bugbear of mine. Davis pulled off a few fantastic saves at the end but we should be better in posession and not get the jitters. It was the same at Preston against the 10 men and on another day we could throw away a vital 3 points. We often don't manage the end of games very well. Yesterday, however, I do think we suffered from the fact that all our substitutions were because of injury. That was unavoidable, and will not have helped MON to use his subs to help manage the final quarter of the game. I agree. My next point would have been that it’s not a new thing and it’s always frustrated me. Hopefully as Collins and Souttar develop they can instill a bit of confidence in the rest of the team to get over the line on our terms in that final quarter of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 14:31:18 GMT
1. If we continue with 3 at the back, it must be a 343 with Powell, Campbell and Fletcher as the first choice front 3. They give us goals and creativity. 2. The back three is still not quite right. Souttar should be in the middle (Batth as back up) and, if he starts, Collins on the right (Chester is the alternative). Left should be a choice between Fox (who should have the shirt for now) and Lindsay. The wide players have to be on their natural foot on the flank for me. 3. The middle two are not gelling - Mikel is not as mobile as he once was and Clucas' natural instinct is to drive forward not hold. Whisper it in case bayern hears, but we need Joe Allen in there badly. Thommo could rotate in until then. 4. Start the first half the way we started the second. Completely agree. Also think with Allen back in the team his energy and pressing will get us on the front foot more and allow the attackers to shine.
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 18, 2020 15:43:17 GMT
Nathan jones still chats drivel
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 18, 2020 16:18:23 GMT
Start with the CBS...Collins,Baath,Souttar.
Powell is a master of shithousery
Davies is/will be Wales no1 choice sooner rather than later
My half time/full time tips are shocking
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