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Post by franklin on Aug 18, 2020 15:12:57 GMT
I don't see the issue no harm done ive been stopped more than that and I was a cop, I even got stopped going home from a noon shift by somebody who didn't know me or my car. You just do what you do and go about your business its that easy really. Nothing to hide no problem on your way. You say that, but it's quite embarrassing being sat in a plod car being grilled by police while gorms walk past and look through the window at the criminal mastermind that sits in the back seat. The last time this happened to me was outside of my work and with the benefit of doubt, I should have refused to sit in the back of the car. They pulled me over because they wanted to "have a chat" about me playing on my phone. I wasn't playing on my phone. I actually think they were trying to corner me into admitting to something I hadn't done, and being sat in the back of the car as colleagues walked past and looked in, I can imagine some people would cave and just want to escape the car as quickly as possible. I refused and eventually the two reasonably polite officers accepted that they couldn't be certain that I was using my phone and subsequently let me leave. I understand but that's just the embarrassing part you are objecting too but again nothing wrong and you were allowed on you way. Imagine being followed by an inspector pulled over being asked questions only to answer hey up boss ive just finished noons and telling him his shift followed mine 😂 his face was a picture. They even laughed the next day at work because some of my mates heard him run my car through pnc on the radio and they knew it was me on my way home. Shit happens sometimes 🤷♂️
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2020 15:16:31 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable
On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37]
On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver.
In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions.
I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 15:21:45 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Fuck off are you using the Yorkshire ripper as justification for stop and search The cunt left all sorts at crime scenes and was arrested a few times and would have been in front of the beak if not for the obsession with Wearside Jack. On the old 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' front, why do the pigs talk to you like they've apprehended a sex criminal/jewel thief whenever they do stop you? Franklin, BJR - are you taught to be condescending and pompous on the job, or do they filter for it at application?
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Post by franklin on Aug 18, 2020 15:23:26 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Spot on, we are risking throwing the baby out with the bathwater to avoid a small annoyance. I'm reasonably sure most cops nowdays hate doing them, they have to video record every one and are at risk of complaints and its one less mither at the end of the day. Keep moaning and eventually they will get fewer and fewer until they are binned.
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Post by franklin on Aug 18, 2020 15:27:48 GMT
I see the foul-mouthed idiots have arrived I'll leave it there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 15:38:24 GMT
'why do the pigs talk to you like they've apprehended a sex criminal/jewel thief whenever they do stop you?'..... I was stopped a few days ago and like the one in the video were actually really decent and apologised for stopping me.I can't speak for every other police stop.In an area where there was a violent crime hours before I'd have thought a local MP would be all for them trying to do a tough job.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 18, 2020 15:40:40 GMT
I see the foul-mouthed idiots have arrived I'll leave it there. Has someone been sniffing the bar maids apron at this early hour
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Post by franklin on Aug 18, 2020 15:43:49 GMT
I see the foul-mouthed idiots have arrived I'll leave it there. Has someone been sniffing the bar maids apron at this early hour Is so predictable and boring it doesn't warrant a reply mate 🤷♂️ i ignore him in all of his guises.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 18, 2020 15:46:10 GMT
Has someone been sniffing the bar maids apron at this early hour Is so predictable and boring it doesn't warrant a reply mate 🤷♂️ i ignore him in all of his guises. I know I have blocked most of them just left a few for entertainment purposes
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 15:50:26 GMT
I still see lots of white people who get stopped about as often as Halley's Comet comes around telling black people, for whom its a regular occurrence, to just suck it up.
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 15:51:01 GMT
Has someone been sniffing the bar maids apron at this early hour Is so predictable and boring it doesn't warrant a reply mate 🤷♂️ i ignore him in all of his guises. Not done a great job of leaving it have you
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 15:58:36 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Fuck off are you using the Yorkshire ripper as justification for stop and search The cunt left all sorts at crime scenes and was arrested a few times and would have been in front of the beak if not for the obsession with Wearside Jack. On the old 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' front, why do the pigs talk to you like they've apprehended a sex criminal/jewel thief whenever they do stop you? Franklin, BJR - are you taught to be condescending and pompous on the job, or do they filter for it at application? It's hardly a great case study for police "best practice" is it? They fucked up the tyre enquiry AND the £5 note enquiry. Had they taken the simple and easily achievable step of merging those two enquiries, they'd probably have had a suspect list of one person. And as you say they then allowed the entire investigation to be derailed by some lunatic regurgitating stuff they'd read in the newspapers as if it was inside knowledge. If anything, it's a good case study for why police should perhaps focus more on empirical evidence rather than blind supposition.
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 16:03:26 GMT
Did it leave you scarred for life or feeling profiled or did you just move on as no big deal. Ay up Pal. Apparently vokes thinks you and I are one in the same. FFS dont tell Ely and his lads, or Darkside that we are not, as they met both of us in Singapore a few years ago. But were we ever actually together. Maybe I kept slipping off for a few mins to change appearance and grow about 4 inches, and then back again... Comedy genious. You just couldnt make it up. Unless of course you are Vokeswaggen. You both ragequit and restarted at more or less the same time mate. I merely wondered why. It's rather more compelling circumstantial evidence than "that left leaning bloke's using italics and smileys, it can only possibly be one man"
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Post by metalhead on Aug 18, 2020 16:08:40 GMT
As soon as you call the plod 'pigs', you somewhat lose the argument. Put your arguments across without resorting to personal insults.
I agree, some police are particularly unpleasant and condescending and drunk with power. However the two I refer to from my stop regarding the phone, were polite enough.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 18, 2020 16:13:06 GMT
Did it leave you scarred for life or feeling profiled or did you just move on as no big deal. It didn't scar me for life, but it did bloody annoy me. They had no good reason to stop me other than I was a young lad in a typical 'chav' car. What would you replace them with? In some ways they can prevent people going into custody if nothings found. If you did get rid everyone would be getting arrested on suspicion. If people accept them then a lot of the time they’ll be gone in 5 mins. I wouldn't replace them with anything specifically. That’s a bit of an issue if there are reports of a guy carrying a machete / knife and he hides it down his trousers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 16:15:47 GMT
As soon as you call the plod 'pigs', you somewhat lose the argument. Put your arguments across without resorting to personal insults. I agree, some police are particularly unpleasant and condescending and drunk with power. However the two I refer to from my stop regarding the phone, were polite enough. What about calling them the plod?
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2020 16:22:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 16:24:20 GMT
You asking for a PM pal?
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2020 16:27:08 GMT
You asking for a PM pal? That made me laugh out loud. Nice one.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2020 16:30:38 GMT
I still see lots of white people who get stopped about as often as Halley's Comet comes around telling black people, for whom its a regular occurrence, to just suck it up. Sheikh, just my opnion but I'm sure if I was a black father of a teenage black son in London who told me he'd been stopped ,say 3 times in one evening I'd be saying something along the lines of " That's good son. They are doing their job. You have more to fear from gangs and as you know son black people are more likely to die from black crime than the Police. Keep away from gangs as much as possible. If stopped, be polite. If you think that you have reason to complain, stay calm, take his number, we'll deal with it afterwards, but don't kick off, you might not know the full story, and if one knife is found you are a bit safer". My 24 year old son , nicest young lad you could hope to meet, drives a modified, wrapped, lowered, windscreen tinted ( probably illegal) VW Polo. He has been stopped on occasions..." profiled" no doubt, I give him similar advice , and he understands. What advice would you give to a black teenager in London Sheikh? ( genuine question). The tone of the current arguments re Policing and other matters does remind me of how out of touch the " left" is with ordinary people in my opinion.
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 16:31:52 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Spot on, we are risking throwing the baby out with the bathwater to avoid a small annoyance. I'm reasonably sure most cops nowdays hate doing them, they have to video record every one and are at risk of complaints and its one less mither at the end of the day. Keep moaning and eventually they will get fewer and fewer until they are binned. I imagine it's more than just a "small annoyance" if you feel you've been discriminated against solely because of the colour of your skin though. This is exactly the sort of disparaging, pompous attitude that gets people's backs up.
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 16:35:21 GMT
I still see lots of white people who get stopped about as often as Halley's Comet comes around telling black people, for whom its a regular occurrence, to just suck it up. Sheik, just my opnion but I'm sure if I was a black father of a teenage black sin in Londin who told me he'd been stopped ,say 3 times in one evening I'd be saying something along the lines of " That's good son. They are doing their job. You have more to fear from gangs and as you know son black people are more likely to die from black crime than the Police. Keep way from drugs gangs as much as possible. If stopped, be polite. If you think that you have reason to complain, stay calm, take his number, we'll deal with it afterwards, but don't kick off, you might not know the full story, and if one knife is found you are a bit safer". My 24 year old son , nicest young lad you could hope to meet, drives a modified, wrapped, lowered, windscreen tinted ( probably illegal) VW Polo. He has been stopped on occasions..." profiled" no doubt, I give him the same advice , and he understands. What advice would you give to a black teenager in London Sheikh? ( genuine question). The tone of the current arguments re Policing and other matters does remind me of how out of touch the " left" is with ordinary people in my opinion. When you say "ordinary people" I think you mean "some predominantly white people on a Stoke City messageboard"
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Post by franklin on Aug 18, 2020 16:36:02 GMT
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Post by questionable on Aug 18, 2020 16:41:36 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Big fan of the Police and yes if you have nothing to be concerned about, then there’s nothing to be concerned about. But they don’t half make things hard for themselves, in that I mean do the basics at the start instead of trying to be the bad guys friends and stop friggin saying we’re understaffed.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2020 16:42:29 GMT
You asking for a PM pal? Any news from the Italo House scene, mate?
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 16:43:46 GMT
If you're feeling tired, take a break. That's what the police tell motorists isn't it?
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2020 16:47:01 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Fuck off are you using the Yorkshire ripper as justification for stop and search The cunt left all sorts at crime scenes and was arrested a few times and would have been in front of the beak if not for the obsession with Wearside Jack. On the old 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' front, why do the pigs talk to you like they've apprehended a sex criminal/jewel thief whenever they do stop you? Franklin, BJR - are you taught to be condescending and pompous on the job, or do they filter for it at application? Never mind you holding court on The Cake mate, those Maccy D wrappers won't pick themselves up 😎
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2020 16:52:00 GMT
Stop and search any person/ car was ,in my opinion, an invaluable tool for the Police. The Yorkshire Ripper was caught through the instinct of a probationary constable On 2 January 1981, Sutcliffe was stopped by the police with 24-year-old prostitute Olivia Reivers in the driveway of Light Trades House in Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill, Sheffield. A police check by probationary constable Robert Hydes revealed his car had false number plates and Sutcliffe was arrested and transferred to Dewsbury Police Station. At Dewsbury he was questioned in relation to the Yorkshire Ripper case as he matched many of the known physical characteristics. The next day police returned to the scene of the arrest and discovered a knife, hammer and rope he had discarded when he briefly slipped away from the police after telling them he was "bursting for a pee". Sutcliffe hid a second knife in the toilet cistern at the police station when he was permitted to use the toilet. The police obtained a search warrant for his home at 6 Garden Lane in Heaton, Bradford and brought his wife in for questioning.[37] On my first day out as a Police officer I was advised to " get involved " ASAP. Within half an hour of my first shift , 6.00 am start, I stopped a car in Liverpool Road , Stoke. It stopped , but when I looked at the back....no number plate....and it drove off. We did a Police check on the number and I went with a sergeant to a garage on the corner of Waterloo Road, Hanley.....where the sergeant "knew" all the " workers : there, an unscrupulous looking lot, whom he called villains/ all had previous...nothing came of the no number plate as far as I am aware....but they had something to hide. On another occasion I tried to stop a car outside the ambulance station in Trent Vale, nearly ( in my opinion, deliberately) ran over me....caught the driver in Hanley, nicked nurse's car, drunk driver. In my opinion we as what was a reasonably law abiding calm society are gradually wearing things down , undermining the Police , not letting them do their job properly, which does sometimes involve inconveniencing people, and we as a decent society will be all the worse for it. In my opinion the vast majority, the silent najority ,know they have nothing to fear from the Police and, if anything ,what a more visible police presence, with more interventions. I've been stopped and breathyalysed 3 times since leaving the Police, once I was going a bit fast , late at night, on the two other occasions, just random checks....after the event of one of them ,I did discuss the fact that I had been stopped by the main officer to give his probationary oppo the chance to practice breathalysers....and he agreed/ no problem in my opinion. Big fan of the Police and yes if you have nothing to be concerned about, then there’s nothing to be concerned about. But they don’t half make things hard for themselves, in that I mean do the basics at the start instead of trying to be the bad guys friends and stop friggin saying we’re understaffed. Questionable For me , I think that they are grossly understaffed, like many of the public services. One day the lid might be blown off the situation. They have suffered cutbacks over the years whilst the amount and range of certain crimes( eg historic crimes/ internet crimes ) has increased. I do think as a force, from the top , they have suffered from " political correctness" ( totally unnecessary) and have lost their way....and you are absolutely right , we should get back to basics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 17:05:29 GMT
Fuck off are you using the Yorkshire ripper as justification for stop and search The cunt left all sorts at crime scenes and was arrested a few times and would have been in front of the beak if not for the obsession with Wearside Jack. On the old 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' front, why do the pigs talk to you like they've apprehended a sex criminal/jewel thief whenever they do stop you? Franklin, BJR - are you taught to be condescending and pompous on the job, or do they filter for it at application? Never mind you holding court on The Cake mate, those Maccy D wrappers won't pick themselves up 😎 Big fan of the Yorkshire Ripper are you pal? Or got fuck all of any value to say as usual?
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 17:08:53 GMT
Never mind you holding court on The Cake mate, those Maccy D wrappers won't pick themselves up 😎 Big fan of the Yorkshire Ripper are you pal? Or got fuck all of any value to say as usual? The latter I think fella Although I have to say I do agree with metalhead about you undermining what was a good and very valid point with an unnecessarily aggressive dig at old bill
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