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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2020 15:48:07 GMT
Rowett is a solid manager in this division and did a great job to get Millwall near the playoffs. Just because he didn't get instant success here doesn't mean he wouldn't have got us promoted given time. He's done really well with some difficult clubs. One of the most underrated managers. MON performed a miracle last season and his man management skills are up there with the best. I know I'm being biased but we have the best manager in the Championship. The Preston manager started well but they fell away like a stone last season. Don't know what went wrong there but they struggled in the second half of the season. I don't know who the Cardiff manager is but they ended the season well and had a really good season, their manager must be up there if he can repeat it next season. He is the man that did all the groundwork for Rowett at Millwall: Neil Harris. You say that but Harris was pretty fucking awful with Millwall wasn't he? Rowett has definitely seemed to elevate them. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 9, 2020 15:53:40 GMT
He is the man that did all the groundwork for Rowett at Millwall: Neil Harris. You say that but Harris was pretty fucking awful with Millwall wasn't he? Rowett has definitely seemed to elevate them. You’re right Harris wasn’t a success at Millwall which I think was his first management job and the Cardiff fans were up in arms about his appointment. But I think he did well last season and probably had them higher up than many predicted. He seems to be popular with the players which is half the battle |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 17:03:00 GMT
He is the man that did all the groundwork for Rowett at Millwall: Neil Harris. You say that but Harris was pretty fucking awful with Millwall wasn't he? If you use those terms then I'd have to say no, not at all. In fact he did very well for Millwall for four years, but every good thing comes to an end, and after a sequence of poor results Harris walked rather than be kicked out. He was at one time one of the favourites for the Stoke job. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 9, 2020 17:08:13 GMT
MON is an excellent manager. I posted on here a few years ago when we sacked Hughes that he would be a good fit for us, and he’s got the potential to go right to the top.
That said, for me, the person who’s done an astonishingly good job and therefore at least one of the best managers is Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2020 17:12:07 GMT
You say that but Harris was pretty fucking awful with Millwall wasn't he? If you use those terms then I'd have to say no, not at all. In fact he did very well for Millwall for four years, but every good thing comes to an end, and after a sequence of poor results Harris walked rather than be kicked out. He was at one time one of the favourites for the Stoke job. He was and I wouldn't have touched him with a bargepole, still wouldn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 17:19:20 GMT
Warnock
He will have boro close this coming season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 18:29:02 GMT
If you use those terms then I'd have to say no, not at all. In fact he did very well for Millwall for four years, but every good thing comes to an end, and after a sequence of poor results Harris walked rather than be kicked out. He was at one time one of the favourites for the Stoke job. He was and I wouldn't have touched him with a bargepole, still wouldn't. If O'Neill is headhunted, and he could be, probably not for a year or two, but then it could happen, Harris could well be back in the line. I don't know what he's supposed to have done so badly, not that it matters. |
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 9, 2020 21:02:11 GMT
He was and I wouldn't have touched him with a bargepole, still wouldn't. If O'Neill os jeadhunted, and he could be, probably not for a year or two, but then it could happen, Harris could well be back in the line. I don't know what he's supposed to have done so badly, not that it matters. My mate who’s a Cardiff fan says Harris did a brilliant job to get them into the playoffs from where they were, but when it came to the big moments he was found out as a bit of a one trick pony. Doesn’t fancy them to be up there under him any time soon. |
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 10, 2020 12:49:05 GMT
I’m not convinced, I’m sure there was a stat that hes been in 9 finals (promotions and cup) and lost all of them. Pretty glaring hole in a cv that. Get your facts right before you post. Oh and are you convinced now? No need to be so aggressive. But no, still not convinced. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2020 14:05:58 GMT
Gareth Ainsworth has worked miracles at Wycombe, a truly inspirational story. For all the fact they fell apart at the backend, you still can't ignore the work that Frank did at Brentford this year, he is bolstered by the finest club model in the league which definitely helps but so does the fact he is forward thinking enough to operate within it.
Alex Neil is very consistent at Preston, again probably doing better than the sum of the parts he has at his disposal.
Then of course if you're looking at track record it has to be Warnock. I think O'Neill is certainly within the top bracket, and the job he has done so far is fantastic but he's got to back it up next year. No doubt his international record is unquestionable, but it's a totally different scenario.
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Post by minnierover on Aug 10, 2020 14:54:20 GMT
Thomas Frank is probably the best right now. He didn’t quite have the in-depth knowledge and tactical nouse of Bielsa or Bilic but he’ll have learnt a lot from last season. For Bilic to come into the championship for the first time after only previously managing country and prem, and to take over a team that lost all its goal scorers and take them up as second highest scorers in the division was impressive. Glad him and Bielsa are gone from this division.
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Post by s7oke on Aug 10, 2020 14:56:05 GMT
Nathan Jones according to junior Coates
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 14:56:11 GMT
Get your facts right before you post. Oh and are you convinced now? No need to be so aggressive. But no, still not convinced. So you still believe Frank has failed in nine play-off games...Then it's just sheer stupidity. That can't be helped, so I guess you're excused... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:13:10 GMT
He was and I wouldn't have touched him with a bargepole, still wouldn't. If O'Neill is headhunted, and he could be, probably not for a year or two, but then it could happen, Harris could well be back in the line. I don't know what he's supposed to have done so badly, not that it matters. If O'neill gets headhunted then it'll mean he's done very well here. Probably meaning we'd be back in the PL. Also meaning there isn't many sides you'd leave for outside of the Top 6. Should they come calling then it's probably because he's so done so well that we ourselves are right up in that top half anyway. Should that happen, we'd probably be owed a good sum of money and have cash to burn anyway. In such case, we wouldn't be appointing Harris  |
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Post by zerps on Aug 10, 2020 15:20:42 GMT
Rowett not a bad manager, just the draw specialist and dull And a giant whopper 👍 |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2020 15:25:40 GMT
Not sure if this is right but only Farke at Norwich and Warnock of the current managers have got team promoted from the Champs Both are probably the stand out managers in this league. Warnock has an impressive record you can't ignore and Farkes Norwich stormed this league just a season ago.
There isn't much else in this league probably Frank although he is helped massively by stellar recruitment from 2 DOFs. The likes of Rowett Harris Neil have not yet shown they have the nouse to get over the line.
As for MON his success will be determined by his recruitment. An area where all our past managers apart from Hughes and Pulis have floundered.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:32:12 GMT
Rowett not a bad manager, just the draw specialist and dull And a giant whopper 👍 Unfair on giant whoppers but yep. |
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 10, 2020 18:41:29 GMT
No need to be so aggressive. But no, still not convinced. So you still believe Frank has failed in nine play-off games...Then it's just sheer stupidity. That can't be helped, so I guess you're excused... Did I say I still believe Frank failed? No, and if you read my other post when someone corrected me, I said I stand corrected. So wind your neck in. I’m still not convinced ‘he’s the next big thing’ is me spelling it out for you. |
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Post by boothenender on Aug 12, 2020 12:16:52 GMT
MON is right up near the top.
20/21 season is a bit too soon for him to put his stamp on the free-loaders that have infested our club.
21/22 season will be MON's chance to show us what he can do.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 12, 2020 16:39:58 GMT
Not sure if this is right but only Farke at Norwich and Warnock of the current managers have got team promoted from the Champs Both are probably the stand out managers in this league. Warnock has an impressive record you can't ignore and Farkes Norwich stormed this league just a season ago. There isn't much else in this league probably Frank although he is helped massively by stellar recruitment from 2 DOFs. The likes of Rowett Harris Neil have not yet shown they have the nouse to get over the line. As for MON his success will be determined by his recruitment. An area where all our past managers apart from Hughes and Pulis have floundered. Rowett Harris Neil sounds like Chelsea’s latest academy starlet😏 Why have all these young chaps got double barrelled surnames?🤔 |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 12, 2020 17:05:22 GMT
The answer is the one that wins the title.
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Post by innocentbystander on Aug 15, 2020 21:27:34 GMT
Watford have appointed Vladimir Ivic as their best manager in the Championship. He's won two titles in Israel, and a "trophy" in Greece. He's bringing his own Serbian/Montenegroan backroom staff with him. I'm sure he's got the Watford board fully behind him (snigger) so their title is as good as in the bag (guffaw guffaw) www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53795279 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 22:50:15 GMT
Old Warnock for me.
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Post by lommack on Aug 15, 2020 23:05:27 GMT
He knows how to get a team going you have to give him that |
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