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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2020 10:42:13 GMT
Should we be rejoicing at these plucky no-hopers joining the Football League?
Or will it not be too long before they are pissing past the Vale and then Crewe before and joining us in the Championship?
Seems like an incestuous affair (we know all about that). Chairman is Irving Weaver, wealthy through Strata Homes, and father of the Manager Simon Weaver.
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Post by Northy on Aug 3, 2020 10:51:26 GMT
Should we be rejoicing at these plucky no-hopers joining the Football League? Or will it not be too long before they are pissing past the Vale and then Crewe before and joining us in the Championship? Seems like an incestuous affair (we know all about that). Chairman is Irving Weaver, wealthy through Strata Homes, and father of the Manager Simon Weaver. all about it on here Gods oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/295958/forest-lose-crown
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Post by Linx on Aug 3, 2020 11:34:29 GMT
Should we be rejoicing at these plucky no-hopers joining the Football League? Or will it not be too long before they are pissing past the Vale and then Crewe before and joining us in the Championship? Seems like an incestuous affair (we know all about that). Chairman is Irving Weaver, wealthy through Strata Homes, and father of the Manager Simon Weaver. Incestuous? They’d be in good company with the Vale, then.
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 3, 2020 14:02:55 GMT
Harrogate, a genteel Spa Town. Probably will turn out to be Bournemouth version 2.
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Post by richie22 on Aug 3, 2020 18:30:15 GMT
Good weekend, nice Wetherspoons,full of entitled tea lovers .
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 3, 2020 18:36:13 GMT
Good weekend, nice Wetherspoons,full of entitled tea lovers . Iike the tea lovers bit But I'm not sure there's ever been a nice wetherspoons (typing this whilst sitting in my local spoons ruddles best £1.29 a pint)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 3, 2020 19:10:59 GMT
Good weekend, nice Wetherspoons,full of entitled tea lovers . Iike the tea lovers bit But I'm not sure there's ever been a nice wetherspoons (typing this whilst sitting in my local spoons ruddles best £1.29 a pint) Then you’ve never been to the Harrogate Spoons! It’s a grand old building absolutely wall to wall with erm.............Fanny!!!! I even eat in there when I go up!
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Post by Linx on Aug 3, 2020 19:16:15 GMT
Sod Harrogate. Poor old County. Proper football club. I actually know people who support County, and I’ve been to a few of their matches, whereas Harrogate is Blue Rinse Brigade who go to Leeds for football if they are bothered, but actually prefer golf. So cut out all the romantic crap about yet another no mark joke of a club who most people had ever heard of until today.
Sorry. Blame the bottle of wine and being forced to watch the Monday dose of Corrie for my grouchy mood.
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Post by scottzbj on Aug 3, 2020 19:18:41 GMT
Iike the tea lovers bit But I'm not sure there's ever been a nice wetherspoons (typing this whilst sitting in my local spoons ruddles best £1.29 a pint) Then you’ve never been to the Harrogate Spoons! It’s a grand old building absolutely wall to wall with erm.............Fanny!!!! I even eat in there when I go up! You eat the fanny or the food?
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Post by richie22 on Aug 3, 2020 19:57:49 GMT
The spoons is an old bath house I believe .
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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2020 20:13:43 GMT
Harrogate, a genteel Spa Town. Probably will turn out to be Bournemouth version 2. As football becomes increasingly gentrified with an older and wealthier audience I reckon investors are seeing potential in these affluent towns.
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Post by woodstein on Aug 3, 2020 21:21:27 GMT
Sod Harrogate. Poor old County. Proper football club. I actually know people who support County, and I’ve been to a few of their matches, whereas Harrogate is Blue Rinse Brigade who go to Leeds for football if they are bothered, but actually prefer golf. So cut out all the romantic crap about yet another no mark joke of a club who most people had ever heard of until today. Sorry. Blame the bottle of wine and being forced to watch the Monday dose of Corrie for my grouchy mood. Some Stoke fans are really becoming football snobs! Who are we to really make comments about new clubs coming into the league.
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Post by rosco on Aug 3, 2020 21:28:56 GMT
Chuffed for Harrogate, a great little club. Punching above their weight in the Conference never mind League 2. All the best to them though and Barrow.
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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 3, 2020 21:32:56 GMT
Had my Christmas do in Harrogate last year. Great night out with good bars and restaurants. Also full of posh totty, as someone said earlier :-)
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Post by Linx on Aug 3, 2020 21:40:19 GMT
Sod Harrogate. Poor old County. Proper football club. I actually know people who support County, and I’ve been to a few of their matches, whereas Harrogate is Blue Rinse Brigade who go to Leeds for football if they are bothered, but actually prefer golf. So cut out all the romantic crap about yet another no mark joke of a club who most people had ever heard of until today. Sorry. Blame the bottle of wine and being forced to watch the Monday dose of Corrie for my grouchy mood. Some Stoke fans are really becoming football snobs! Who are we to really make comments about new clubs coming into the league. One man’s love of tradition and football heritage is another man’s snobbery.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 3, 2020 22:24:06 GMT
Some Stoke fans are really becoming football snobs! Who are we to really make comments about new clubs coming into the league. One man’s love of tradition and football heritage is another man’s snobbery. Harrogate Town AFC have been going since 1914 and have played in the Yorkshire/West Riding Leagues Leagues until they got into the Conference Divisions in 2004 They are hardly new kids on the block. They have paid their dues I reckon.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 3, 2020 23:44:45 GMT
Looks like their plastic 3G pitch is being replaced with turf, now they are a Football League club. They’ll also probably play their first few home games away from their ground, possibly at Doncaster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 0:16:57 GMT
Some Stoke fans are really becoming football snobs! Who are we to really make comments about new clubs coming into the league. One man’s love of tradition and football heritage is another man’s snobbery. Bit harsh There on merit and every right to be there Notts County are a good old club but doesn't give them the right but be nice to see them back sooner rather than later Forest Green on the other hand can feck off with their vegan shite and balsa wood stadium
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 4, 2020 8:03:25 GMT
One man’s love of tradition and football heritage is another man’s snobbery. Bit harsh There on merit and every right to be there Notts County are a good old club but doesn't give them the right but be nice to see them back sooner rather than later Forest Green on the other hand can feck off with their vegan shite and balsa wood stadium Hey hands off Forest Green. They have been going since 1889. Ive got family who live down there and been watching them since the 70s. Their owners are well loved and dedicated and have invested heavily in the local area and built positive relations with the locals generally. Can hardly be described as fly-by-nights.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 4, 2020 11:01:12 GMT
One man’s love of tradition and football heritage is another man’s snobbery. Bit harsh There on merit and every right to be there Notts County are a good old club but doesn't give them the right but be nice to see them back sooner rather than later Forest Green on the other hand can feck off with their vegan shite and balsa wood stadium Their new stadium looks like Rivendell from Lord of the Rings.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 4, 2020 12:42:09 GMT
Looks like their plastic 3G pitch is being replaced with turf, now they are a Football League club. They’ll also probably play their first few home games away from their ground, possibly at Doncaster. 3G is a must for clubs lower down the leagues. Will save them all sorts of costs over grass and can be used in some cases especially Harrogate by the community. Clubs should have the choice not have grass imposed on them We’ve come a long way from Luton and QPR
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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 4, 2020 13:06:06 GMT
Looks like their plastic 3G pitch is being replaced with turf, now they are a Football League club. They’ll also probably play their first few home games away from their ground, possibly at Doncaster. 3G is a must for clubs lower down the leagues. Will save them all sorts of costs over grass and can be used in some cases especially Harrogate by the community. Clubs should have the choice not have grass imposed on them We’ve come a long way from Luton and QPR I get to Scotland now and again to watch games, and there’s a lot of 3G pitches up there. I saw Queen of the South last season, and the tackles were flying in and you forgot at times it was on 3G plastic. Bradford Park Avenue have installed a 3G pitch over the summer, and it enables them to host more sport, There’ll be more use Overall and it’s a community asset in a way that a grass pitch couldn’t be. I think in light of a post Covid-19 era I think it might be common sense to let league one/two clubs use these pitches. There’s little chance of a postponement and they have great potential for other revenue streams.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 4, 2020 13:19:10 GMT
3G is a must for clubs lower down the leagues. Will save them all sorts of costs over grass and can be used in some cases especially Harrogate by the community. Clubs should have the choice not have grass imposed on them We’ve come a long way from Luton and QPR I get to Scotland now and again to watch games, and there’s a lot of 3G pitches up there. I saw Queen of the South last season, and the tackles were flying in and you forgot at times it was on 3G plastic. Bradford Park Avenue have installed a 3G pitch over the summer, and it enables them to host more sport, There’ll be more use Overall and it’s a community asset in a way that a grass pitch couldn’t be. I think in light of a post Covid-19 era I think it might be common sense to let league one/two clubs use these pitches. There’s little chance of a postponement and they have great potential for other revenue streams. I agree with virtually all you say. I suppose the biggest problem is cup games where one team is used to playing on grass and the other on 3G. A team which normally plays on grass is going to feel hard done by in a cup game played on 3G. I don't see an easy solution. As a matter of interest, do clubs who play their home games on 3G pitches have both grass and 3G pitches at their training ground? I presume that they do to train for those away games which will be played on grass.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 4, 2020 14:12:05 GMT
I get to Scotland now and again to watch games, and there’s a lot of 3G pitches up there. I saw Queen of the South last season, and the tackles were flying in and you forgot at times it was on 3G plastic. Bradford Park Avenue have installed a 3G pitch over the summer, and it enables them to host more sport, There’ll be more use Overall and it’s a community asset in a way that a grass pitch couldn’t be. I think in light of a post Covid-19 era I think it might be common sense to let league one/two clubs use these pitches. There’s little chance of a postponement and they have great potential for other revenue streams. I agree with virtually all you say. I suppose the biggest problem is cup games where one team is used to playing on grass and the other on 3G. A team which normally plays on grass is going to feel hard done by in a cup game played on 3G. I don't see an easy solution. As a matter of interest, do clubs who play their home games on 3G pitches have both grass and 3G pitches at their training ground? I presume that they do to train for those away games which will be played on grass. No different than uefa rules that allow 3G in their competitions It should happen
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 4, 2020 14:54:35 GMT
I agree with virtually all you say. I suppose the biggest problem is cup games where one team is used to playing on grass and the other on 3G. A team which normally plays on grass is going to feel hard done by in a cup game played on 3G. I don't see an easy solution. As a matter of interest, do clubs who play their home games on 3G pitches have both grass and 3G pitches at their training ground? I presume that they do to train for those away games which will be played on grass. No different than uefa rules that allow 3G in their competitions It should happen A difference is that UEFA competitions (in non Covid19 years) provide for all ties being on a 2 leg basis until the final. Our domestic Cup competitions are one legged - although there MAY be replays in the early rounds. I do agree, though, that cup competitions should not be a bar to a lower league club using a 3G pitch. Personally, I'm a bit surprised that all Premier League and Chamionship clubs don't include at least one 3G pitch in their training complexes - if only to allow outdoor training to carry on in torrential weather conditions. A lot of them have indoor artificial pitches - so an outdoor 3G pitch is not so very different.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Aug 4, 2020 15:06:15 GMT
Chuffed for Harrogate, a great little club. Punching above their weight in the Conference never mind League 2. All the best to them though and Barrow. Their Centre-Forward this season ( Harrogate) has been Jon Stead, once an £8 million signing by Blackburn. 37 now, and I have read he isn't getting a new contract ( bit of a shame, sure he could do half a season in league Two) but he has still made double-figures this season
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Post by Northy on Aug 4, 2020 15:27:22 GMT
Chuffed for Harrogate, a great little club. Punching above their weight in the Conference never mind League 2. All the best to them though and Barrow. Their Centre-Forward this season ( Harrogate) has been Jon Stead, once an £8 million signing by Blackburn. 37 now, and I have read he isn't getting a new contract ( bit of a shame, sure he could do half a season in league Two) but he has still made double-figures this season Ironic that he played for Notts County before joining Harrogate after being released, he finally played at Wembley for the first time on Sunday coming on as a 2nd half sub.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 4, 2020 15:42:15 GMT
Their Centre-Forward this season ( Harrogate) has been Jon Stead, once an £8 million signing by Blackburn. 37 now, and I have read he isn't getting a new contract ( bit of a shame, sure he could do half a season in league Two) but he has still made double-figures this season Ironic that he played for Notts County before joining Harrogate after being released, he finally played at Wembley for the first time on Sunday coming on as a 2nd half sub. The further down the pyramid you go, you often find that this kind of experience is invaluable in a team. Someone who knows the ropes. Harrogate has quite a few inexperienced players in their squad who have come from lower down the ladder so someone like Stead would have played an important role. Only so long it can go on for though.
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Post by markby on Aug 4, 2020 15:46:13 GMT
Bit harsh There on merit and every right to be there Notts County are a good old club but doesn't give them the right but be nice to see them back sooner rather than later Forest Green on the other hand can feck off with their vegan shite and balsa wood stadium Hey hands off Forest Green. They have been going since 1889. Ive got family who live down there and been watching them since the 70s. Their owners are well loved and dedicated and have invested heavily in the local area and built positive relations with the locals generally. Can hardly be described as fly-by-nights. Speak to some of the other locals and they might tell you a different story. Sure, FGR are/were a long-established club, but many reckon Vince just seized upon them as a vehicle for his own ambitions, namely to promote his personal Eco-company credentials.
For example, they already have a perfectly adequate ground in the New Lawn in Nailsworth, with a capacity of 5k for attendances of 2.5k average. The ground was only built in 2006, the previous (admittedly inadequate) ground having been sold. For development.
Now he wants to move out of town to a new ground, which he promises will be the most eco-friendly ground in the world etc etc. Yet many suspect ths eco-stadium is just a ruse to persuade the Council to grant Planning Pemission for his real objective, an "Eco Park" on a green-field out-of-town site. This site is nowhere near a train station or any other public transport but instead will be served by motor traffic from the nearby M5. But heyho, he tells us it wll be "eco-friendly", so who are we to argue?
Meanwhile the 14 y.o. New Lawn stadium will be demolished. For development.
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 4, 2020 15:48:05 GMT
I agree with virtually all you say. I suppose the biggest problem is cup games where one team is used to playing on grass and the other on 3G. A team which normally plays on grass is going to feel hard done by in a cup game played on 3G. I don't see an easy solution. As a matter of interest, do clubs who play their home games on 3G pitches have both grass and 3G pitches at their training ground? I presume that they do to train for those away games which will be played on grass. No different than uefa rules that allow 3G in their competitions It should happen Ground-share with Doncaster for a month or so until new pitch is laid.
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