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Post by eddyclamp on Jul 9, 2020 20:28:31 GMT
I have seen some shit down the years but this spineless bunch have raised the bar. In years gone by the club was always hampered by the lack of money to invest, That’s not the case this time and that’s what sets this squad apart. I really do detest a lot of this squad and it makes me angry just to watch them
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Post by David Brent on Jul 9, 2020 20:30:51 GMT
It’s so true
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Post by s7oke on Jul 9, 2020 20:30:59 GMT
I have seen some shit down the years but this spineless bunch have raised the bar. In years gone by the club was always hampered by the lack of money to invest, That’s not the case this time and that’s what sets this squad apart. I really do detest a lot of this squad and it makes me angry just to watch them Money doesn’t buy success Unless you are Man City that is At least we can prove something Because what we have in the squad are pretty worthless
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 9, 2020 20:31:05 GMT
Agreed.
It's a miracle o'neill has given us a chance of staying up
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 9, 2020 20:32:03 GMT
I have seen some shit down the years but this spineless bunch have raised the bar. In years gone by the club was always hampered by the lack of money to invest, That’s not the case this time and that’s what sets this squad apart. I really do detest a lot of this squad and it makes me angry just to watch them Yep. When you factor in the 'pound for pound ratio', they are the worst I'd say and by far and away the most unlikeable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:33:12 GMT
Totally agree. They have made me fall out of love with the club. Spineless bastards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:37:58 GMT
Tonight is on the manager again imo .
You beat Barnsley 4-0, then put the same side out bar one and change the formation.
Why?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 9, 2020 20:40:41 GMT
Wouldn't necessarily disagree.
But while we're obviously well and truly pissed off after our post-lockdown performances, if he'd been in charge since August, we'd be sitting comfortably alongside the likes of Preston and Blackburn in upper mid-table anonymity.
You can't get away from the fact that we are 9th or 10th in the league in the games since MON came in - during which we've been tonked a lot, but also handed out a lot of tonkings
We're obviously miles off the handful of good teams in this league though - and our lack of quality in the squad is frightening for what we've spent.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 9, 2020 20:48:47 GMT
Tonight is on the manager again imo . You beat Barnsley 4-0, then put the same side out bar one and change the formation. Why? Because Leeds are far greater than Barnsley? And the way we set up was actually effective until Smith dropped a bollock. Taking Collins off wasa huge mistake so I can see that argument but its a player based issue for me mate.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2020 20:49:45 GMT
For money spent by a million miles.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:52:06 GMT
Tonight is on the manager again imo . You beat Barnsley 4-0, then put the same side out bar one and change the formation. Why? Because Leeds are far greater than Barnsley? And the way we set up was actually effective until Smith dropped a bollock. Taking Collins off wasa huge mistake so I can see that argument but its a player based issue for me mate. It was ok but it was still daft. I was all for changing the whole side and writing it off and saving them for Brum. But if you put your best XI out put them in their best formation have a go. McClean at left back, Powell on the wing. Wank
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:54:52 GMT
Bar the youngsters, I'd happily see the back of every single one of them. We're being beat almost on a weekly basis by heart, desire, drive, determination and pace.
They play when they want and they hold the fans with the same discontent that we hold for them.
They are the most unprofessional bunch of shameful bastards I've ever had the misfortune to watch.
They may wear the shirt of the club I support but not a single one of them represent my club, what it stands for and what I stand for.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 9, 2020 20:57:26 GMT
Because Leeds are far greater than Barnsley? And the way we set up was actually effective until Smith dropped a bollock. Taking Collins off wasa huge mistake so I can see that argument but its a player based issue for me mate. It was ok but it was still daft. I was all for changing the whole side and writing it off and saving them for Brum. But if you put your best XI out put them in their best formation have a go. McClean at left back, Powell on the wing. Wank Yeah but still, you can’t base that we lost to a team that is easily two divisions better than we are on the manager. I get why he played three at the back, mcclean at lwb is bad, it has been all season but we have no other player who can play that role, powell at left wing does free him up but we were never on the ball enough to get him into the game. (Powell is better as a CAM obviously but needs must)
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 9, 2020 21:00:07 GMT
Too many journeymen with nothing to attach them to the club apart from payday. Against the likes of Barnsley, Huddersfield or Hull they can play like flat track bullies because they do have a bit about them - but against anyone who gives them a game there's just no spine there willing to work until it hurts.
A result of poor recruitment over too long a period with no quick fix.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:01:02 GMT
It was ok but it was still daft. I was all for changing the whole side and writing it off and saving them for Brum. But if you put your best XI out put them in their best formation have a go. McClean at left back, Powell on the wing. Wank Yeah but still, you can’t base that we lost to a team that is easily two divisions better than we are on the manager. I get why he played three at the back, mcclean at lwb is bad, it has been all season but we have no other player who can play that role, powell at left wing does free him up but we were never on the ball enough to get him into the game. (Powell is better as a CAM obviously but needs must) By that logic then you can’t blame it on the players either.
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Post by jarhead on Jul 9, 2020 21:07:49 GMT
Bar the youngsters, I'd happily see the back of every single one of them. We're being beat almost on a weekly basis by heart, desire, drive, determination and pace. They play when they want and they hold the fans with the same discontent that we hold for them. They are the most unprofessional bunch of shameful bastards I've ever had the misfortune to watch. They may wear the shirt of the club I support but not a single one of them represent my club, what it stands for and what I stand for. Post of the Day.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 9, 2020 21:12:30 GMT
Yeah but still, you can’t base that we lost to a team that is easily two divisions better than we are on the manager. I get why he played three at the back, mcclean at lwb is bad, it has been all season but we have no other player who can play that role, powell at left wing does free him up but we were never on the ball enough to get him into the game. (Powell is better as a CAM obviously but needs must) By that logic then you can’t blame it on the players either. But you can?? Smith - error 0-1 , chester - error 0-2 (partially MON’s fault), then the players lost their heads and a team as good as Leeds didn’t need that invitation. The manager set up a game plan that was working until mistakes killed us.
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Post by neckender78 on Jul 9, 2020 21:23:08 GMT
Bar the youngsters, I'd happily see the back of every single one of them. We're being beat almost on a weekly basis by heart, desire, drive, determination and pace. They play when they want and they hold the fans with the same discontent that we hold for them. They are the most unprofessional bunch of shameful bastards I've ever had the misfortune to watch. They may wear the shirt of the club I support but not a single one of them represent my club, what it stands for and what I stand for. Exactly this, we have been in worse positions when in what is called Div 1 but Lou's team bought pride and passion to our club and even Gudjons showed heart the majority of his time. I really think we will be stuck with many of these lot for years to come as no club in their right mind will pay the obscene wages these twats are on now. Only alternative is pay some of them off and the twats win laughing at us again.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 9, 2020 21:25:09 GMT
Not literally but pound for pound definately
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 9, 2020 21:39:53 GMT
I'm running out of insults for these twats. They're absolutely detestable.
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Post by wagstand on Jul 9, 2020 22:02:28 GMT
Thayt got a short memory if this is the worst squad you have seen mate. We’ve finished half way down the third division before, I was at Wigan , standing on a grassy bank watching us lose 4-0, I was at Telford, queuing up outside next to Waddo to watch us get beat. Keep the faith, we are all pissed off when we lie down like tonight but don’t get things out of proportion. The manager has done a great job to get us away from being buried, I’m sure he’s taking it all in, and making plans for next season
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 9, 2020 22:28:08 GMT
I never realised we had the most expensive squad in the division until someone posted it recently.
I have seen worse performances by Stoke teams in the past, but pound for pound I think they are the shittest team I have seen in the 50 years I have been supporting the club.
If we survive the drop we know nothing will change pre-season unless we change the hierarchy that runs the club, the same hierarchy that presided over one of the worse football teams in living memory - conceding 7, 8, 9s and ending up in tier 3
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 9, 2020 22:34:33 GMT
Teams have beaten leeds playing the formation we did. What you cant account for is a rush of blood to the head and instead of staying on your feet and showing the player out towards the far side smith decides to fly in like fucking Hong Kong phoey
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Post by tosh on Jul 9, 2020 22:53:01 GMT
Teams have beaten leeds playing the formation we did. What you cant account for is a rush of blood to the head and instead of staying on your feet and showing the player out towards the far side smith decides to fly in like fucking Hong Kong phoey Smith tackled a player running away from goal across the very corner of the box. A completely unnecessary tackle, but if it had been one yard earlier or one yard later in the Leeds player’s run, it would have been a free kick instead of a penalty. A really stupid error that was a turning point in the game. As for Butland’s penalty technique, never trying anything different despite total lack of success, there’s nothing you can say that’s not already been said over and over. I thought we’d changed the goalkeeping coach. - If so, you’d never know.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 9, 2020 23:06:19 GMT
I have seen some shit down the years but this spineless bunch have raised the bar. In years gone by the club was always hampered by the lack of money to invest, That’s not the case this time and that’s what sets this squad apart. I really do detest a lot of this squad and it makes me angry just to watch them Yep. When you factor in the 'pound for pound ratio', they are the worst I'd say and by far and away the most unlikeable. It’s difficult to quantify and compare squads over the years. None of these would get me racing to the bookies to place a bet (1) if relegated getting promotion or (2) pushing for next seasons play offs Smith Batth Tymon Lindsay Indi Ward (he’ll be gone) Chesters (he’ll be gone) Cousins Thompson GregorY Ince That’s an eleven player turn over in the summer Then we have to consider: Davies. Why hasn’t he been able to push JB for the #1 spot? Ryan. Will he be fit and reliable for a 46 game season? Verlinden. Is he the answer? Edwards. Ditto Collins. Who will support his development? Powell. Yes he has the ability, does he have the necessary constancy? Butland. Do we need to replace him? Allen. Will he still be with us? Recruitment of a LB IMHO we are in a major crisis, a shambles of a club with incompetent and inept leadership. Any thoughts of a return to the EPL will require major patience. I can see crowds of between 14,000 and 17,000 for the foreseeable future Food for thought!
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Post by generationex on Jul 10, 2020 0:38:51 GMT
Not the worst at Stoke, we hadn’t a penny from 1985 until 2007 and it showed. But easily the worst on the back of £200 million pounds.
During the 23 years it was assumed that success was not possible because of the lack of finance. The Coates senior/ Pulis team changed that - with relatively modest financial investment but by buying players that became part of the clubs fabric.
MON cannot change the reality that possibly the worst pound for pound squad in British football history has been assembled.
We’ve signed only three players with some positive aspects since 2014.
There are 40 plus players since costing millions each - each tarnished with a collection of the greatest faults available - attitude, ability, mental health, self-obsession, only a vague interest in ever playing for stoke.
We are back to the beginning - amazingly even with millions of pounds to spend - normally that’s because the rich owners have gone.
It is the greatest failure in British football given the advantages we had in 2014.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 10, 2020 0:48:17 GMT
It was ok but it was still daft. I was all for changing the whole side and writing it off and saving them for Brum. But if you put your best XI out put them in their best formation have a go. McClean at left back, Powell on the wing. Wank Yeah but still, you can’t base that we lost to a team that is easily two divisions better than we are on the manager. I get why he played three at the back, mcclean at lwb is bad, it has been all season but we have no other player who can play that role, powell at left wing does free him up but we were never on the ball enough to get him into the game. (Powell is better as a CAM obviously but needs must) Needs must? What needs must? We played him as a CAM against Barnsley, so why play him on the left today? There was no needs must about it.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 10, 2020 0:51:14 GMT
I hope when things are better we get a one-off edition of The Oatcake published, with a serious write up of the last 4+ years: the relegation(s), hidings, shameful stats, money spent etc. Because this is one of the low points in the club's history and it needs to be analysed and discussed for posterity. A decline of this magnitude given the resources available must be unprecedented.
I mean, we're not far off '0-4 at Springfield Park or losing to nine man Millwall territory' here. We're really that bad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 0:56:23 GMT
I hope when things are better we get a one-off edition of The Oatcake published, with a serious write up of the last 4+ years: the relegation(s), hidings, shameful stats, money spent etc. Because this is one of the low points in the club's history and it needs to be analysed and discussed for posterity. A decline of this magnitude given the resources must be unprecedented. I wonder if they will use the phrase “rotten to the core” 😂😂 The editor was backing Hughes a month before he was sacked. And that sort of attitude played a massive part in our downfall. As a fanbase we have accepted this shit. The players, managers and owners have got off lightly. Applauding Lambert off ffs. What a load of self harming bollocks that was. Why did people do it? And you’ve still had people stick up for the ear cupping wankers of today. This lot have got of lightly just like the ones before them.
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Post by NassauDave on Jul 10, 2020 4:35:09 GMT
We are fucking shit. end of.
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