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Post by datguy on Jun 30, 2020 22:59:10 GMT
He's the only player that would lose a foot race against Bruno Martins Indi.
Tony Scholes to be blamed for this one. "What's the situation?"
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 30, 2020 23:00:04 GMT
Isnt he out of contract as of now
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 30, 2020 23:00:28 GMT
I knew we were doomed as soon as I saw his name on the team sheet. He’s crap, but he wasn’t signed by Scholes (unpopular opinion I know).
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 30, 2020 23:00:49 GMT
Isnt he out of contract as of now Thank fuck for that |
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Post by datguy on Jun 30, 2020 23:01:27 GMT
Isnt he out of contract as of now Great news. Cheerio Wardy. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Jun 30, 2020 23:03:30 GMT
Makes Cliff Carr look like Roberto Carlos!
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Post by datguy on Jun 30, 2020 23:04:16 GMT
I knew we were doomed as soon as I saw his name on the team sheet. He’s crap, but he wasn’t signed by Scholes (unpopular opinion I know). Whoever signed him needs sectioning. It was Tony Scholes that arrogantly dismissed the problem of lacking a functioning LB in March though. Every game since we've conceded pretty much every goal from down the left... Scholes out. |
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Post by rorystowel on Jun 30, 2020 23:06:30 GMT
Yep, Nathan Jones promised us attacking flowing football and exciting young players. Next thing we know, he’s unveiling Ward and Vokes. Only at Stoke City.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 30, 2020 23:06:53 GMT
I knew we were doomed as soon as I saw his name on the team sheet. He’s crap, but he wasn’t signed by Scholes (unpopular opinion I know). Whoever signed him needs sectioning. It was Tony Scholes that arrogantly dismissed the problem of lacking a functioning LB in March. Every game since we've conceded pretty much every goal from down the left... Scholes out. The bloke who signed him was sacked and is about to keep his new club up and relegate us in the process. It’s beyond a joke. |
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Post by NassauDave on Jun 30, 2020 23:07:17 GMT
Makes Cliff Carr look like Roberto Carlos! Plays like he's been on the Fray Bentos. |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 1, 2020 2:45:38 GMT
Before the game started I commented that Ward was as slow as an old carthorse, by half time I had apologised to the carthorse.
Hopefully this guy's contract was NOT extended beyond the last day of June and we have seen the last of him. He made Bruno look like a world beater and, if I'm honest, I wouldn't want to see Bruno starting again as a left back either.
Says it all really, we have been crying out for a DECENT left back for ages and it never gets addressed. We've papered over the cracks and it's really biting us in the bum big time.
I accept we have a defence (keeper included), a midfield and an attack that are all in need of major surgery but it has to start with a proper left back.
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Post by neddy on Jul 1, 2020 6:57:02 GMT
Sadly now no better than Sunday league level....needs to retire now.
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Post by femark on Jul 1, 2020 7:48:03 GMT
I actually wanted him to play ahead of BMI but it is a bit like choosing between a slap around the face or a kick in the balls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 7:55:29 GMT
Yep, Nathan Jones promised us attacking flowing football and exciting young players. Next thing we know, he’s unveiling Ward and Vokes. Only at Stoke City. He managed to sign those types of players at Luton, yet didn't here? He's gone back to Luton and got those players firing again at a much higher level than previously. Jones made mistakes for sure but surely now everyone, even a blind man, can see that maybe there is more to this than meets the eye? I tried to make the argument in the summer that when Jones went from trying to sign James Justin and ended up with Stephen Ward that maybe there was some kind of restriction at the higher echelons of the club - be it budget at the time, or scouting or whatever. We saw it with Mark Hughes when he tried to sign Cedric Soares - lost him to Southampton and ended up with Glen Johnson. The club has a comparative budget akin to Harrods yet we run it like Poundland. It's disgraceful. |
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Post by rorystowel on Jul 1, 2020 7:57:58 GMT
Yep, Nathan Jones promised us attacking flowing football and exciting young players. Next thing we know, he’s unveiling Ward and Vokes. Only at Stoke City. He managed to sign those types of players at Luton, yet didn't here? He's gone back to Luton and got those players firing again at a much higher level than previously. Jones made mistakes for sure but surely now everyone, even a blind man, can see that maybe there is more to this than meets the eye? I tried to make the argument in the summer that when Jones went from trying to sign James Justin and ended up with Stephen Ward that maybe there was some kind of restriction at the higher echelons of the club - be it budget at the time, or scouting or whatever. We saw it with Mark Hughes when he tried to sign Cedric Soares - lost him to Southampton and ended up with Glen Johnson. The club has a comparative budget akin to Harrods yet we run it like Poundland. It's disgraceful. Nail and head. It’s a recurring pattern no matter who is wearing the manager’s shoes. |
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Post by femark on Jul 1, 2020 8:02:46 GMT
He managed to sign those types of players at Luton, yet didn't here? He's gone back to Luton and got those players firing again at a much higher level than previously. Jones made mistakes for sure but surely now everyone, even a blind man, can see that maybe there is more to this than meets the eye? I tried to make the argument in the summer that when Jones went from trying to sign James Justin and ended up with Stephen Ward that maybe there was some kind of restriction at the higher echelons of the club - be it budget at the time, or scouting or whatever. We saw it with Mark Hughes when he tried to sign Cedric Soares - lost him to Southampton and ended up with Glen Johnson. The club has a comparative budget akin to Harrods yet we run it like Poundland. It's disgraceful. Nail and head. It’s a recurring pattern no matter who is wearing the manager’s shoes. What's even more baffling is how we cant sign a player like Justin, but we can spunk £9m on Vokes and pay him stupid wages. It's not the budget, it's the piss poor management of funds and transfers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 8:32:29 GMT
In one of Roy Keanes inteverviews he says Stephen Ward.... please don’t get me started! And leaves it like that! So I think I will.
I actually don’t blame Ward. I blame the manager for picking him when he clearly is an embarrassment to football.
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 1, 2020 8:39:22 GMT
Is Ward out of contract or will it be extended for another season. I seem to remember when he was signed there was a clause for an extension if he played a certain number of games. Maybe it's a bit premature to wish him bon voyage.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 1, 2020 8:47:10 GMT
It’s truly laughable that Jones signed him to play in a system that required full backs to play such a big role.
No doubt he’s been a half decent player in the past but he was long done before the start of the season. He’s been absolutely terrible if every game bar none.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 1, 2020 9:09:58 GMT
Glacially slow isn’t he?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2020 9:12:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 9:24:03 GMT
Whoever signed him needs sectioning. It was Tony Scholes that arrogantly dismissed the problem of lacking a functioning LB in March. Every game since we've conceded pretty much every goal from down the left... Scholes out. The bloke who signed him was sacked and is about to keep his new club up and relegate us in the process. It’s beyond a joke. It's a funny old thing. Why can Jones do the business at Luton, and Rowett at Millwall, and both were abject failures here? It's as if at those relatively minor clubs, they as managers have to make do with what they've got, and can concentrate on what they're good at: coaching! Whereas with us they have to make marquee signings and are given larger sums than they've ever had before or will have again (Rowett was given huge amounts of money for a CL club, no other club offered/paid as much. Jones by comparison was given less, but still more than he'd ever had on his hands). About 20 players came in under that exercise, and you can't name a single one who has been a success or even played well last night or, ffs, even bothered trying. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2020 9:30:32 GMT
The "he can't be worse than Indi" crew before this game were annoying me.
How can you forget how bad he is?
He literally can't run. Ward is about the last name that should have been on the teamsheet last night.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2020 9:31:53 GMT
The "he can't be worse than Indi" crew before this game were annoying me. How can you forget how bad he is? He literally can't run. Ward is about the last name that should have been on the teamsheet last night. And Christ only knows what it says about just how bad he thinks Tymon is! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2020 9:32:04 GMT
Yep, Nathan Jones promised us attacking flowing football and exciting young players. Next thing we know, he’s unveiling Ward and Vokes. Only at Stoke City. He managed to sign those types of players at Luton, yet didn't here? He's gone back to Luton and got those players firing again at a much higher level than previously. Jones made mistakes for sure but surely now everyone, even a blind man, can see that maybe there is more to this than meets the eye? I tried to make the argument in the summer that when Jones went from trying to sign James Justin and ended up with Stephen Ward that maybe there was some kind of restriction at the higher echelons of the club - be it budget at the time, or scouting or whatever. We saw it with Mark Hughes when he tried to sign Cedric Soares - lost him to Southampton and ended up with Glen Johnson. The club has a comparative budget akin to Harrods yet we run it like Poundland. It's disgraceful. The club is rotten as I've been saying for the last 4 years. But Jones was beyond useless. And still for me last night is on MON. I'm not sure how anyone can expect that team he put out last night to play any differently? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2020 9:33:06 GMT
The "he can't be worse than Indi" crew before this game were annoying me. How can you forget how bad he is? He literally can't run. Ward is about the last name that should have been on the teamsheet last night. And Christ only knows what it says about just how bad he thinks Tymon is! Tymon is awful. It's like Davies. I can't abide Butland but I'd go to Bursik or Broome over him and neither of them are ready for it. It's a shit state. What did Federici do wrong? |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 1, 2020 9:43:16 GMT
I think Stephen Ward will probably only be remembered now for his performances in the Christine Keeler affair.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Jul 1, 2020 9:44:44 GMT
His performance last night was one of them ones where an aging player realises that their legs are long gone and they retire at half time.
It wasn't just one tricky winger that had the beating of him either, which is forgivable for a fullback at our level every now and then, about 4 players dribbled past him with ease at various stages. And sometimes they didn't have to dribble past him because he inexplicably wasn't there, like for their first goal.
Never seen so many unchallenged sidefoot passes into the area. All from his position.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 1, 2020 9:46:08 GMT
His performance last night was one of them ones where an aging player realises that their legs are long gone and they retire at half time. It wasn't just one tricky winger that had the beating of him either, which is forgivable for a fullback at our level every now and then, about 4 players dribbled past him with ease at various stages. And sometimes they didn't have to dribble past him because he inexplicably wasn't there, like for their first goal. Never seen so many unchallenged sidefoot passes into the area. All from his position. Maybe it's his Gary Neville moment when we ripped him a new one and he should of been sent off. Then again Ward has just extended his deal !! |
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Post by s8to on Jul 1, 2020 9:46:55 GMT
The gift that just keeps giving!! Wow, just Wow!!
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