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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 30, 2020 21:04:55 GMT
Etebo Badou and woods all our players would walk into that team Can Scholes explain what kind do recruitment strategy allows you to get relegated with 3 decent midfielders out on loan and cousins and Thomson our only options . A decent midfield that we spent over £20M on. The midfield we had tonight (Cousins Thompson and really couldn't give a shite Clucas) look overpriced for free. Clueless and couldn't care less. I think they do care they are just shit footballers selected by a shit process
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Post by skelman on Jun 30, 2020 21:05:25 GMT
Naismith had not scored in 31 games in all competitions for Wigan this season before his introduction from the bench, but scored two in the space of three minutes after the break. Same old, same old!
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 30, 2020 21:06:08 GMT
I'm sat here seriously asking myself what the hell has happened to this team since thrashing Hull. It would appear the players have packed up and given in or has something gone pear shaped behind the scenes again?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 30, 2020 21:06:26 GMT
A decent midfield that we spent over £20M on. The midfield we had tonight (Cousins Thompson and really couldn't give a shite Clucas) look overpriced for free. Clueless and couldn't care less. I think they do care they are just shit footballers selected by a shit process Woods would be our best centre midfielder available now.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 30, 2020 21:08:34 GMT
Can we try to look for the positives...........
..........no away fans travelled?
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Post by rokerite on Jun 30, 2020 21:08:53 GMT
Strangely enough Wigan supporters were desperate for Cook to leave before the lockdown. I'd look at their message-boards and they wouldn't give him the lickings of a dog, he was a dead man walking. What a great run he's led them on since February.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 30, 2020 21:09:09 GMT
I think they do care they are just shit footballers selected by a shit process Woods would be our best centre midfielder available now. Naivety from O’Neil at best to let him go on loan unless do course he was advised it wasn’t his choice after all would you Let Woods Etebo and Badou all leave in the same window without replacement
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 30, 2020 21:09:37 GMT
I think I can walk faster than Ward runs. I can and I'm registered disabled Please, it is Blancmange? Probably, because it is french?
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Post by roylandstoke on Jun 30, 2020 21:10:02 GMT
A decent midfield that we spent over £20M on. The midfield we had tonight (Cousins Thompson and really couldn't give a shite Clucas) look overpriced for free. Clueless and couldn't care less. I think they do care they are just shit footballers selected by a shit process You're a more forgiving man than me benji.
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Post by cdlstoke on Jun 30, 2020 21:10:55 GMT
Picking Thompson and Cousins said it all for me. One couldn’t get in a poor QPR team and O’Neil’s own signing Thompson couldn’t get in Blackpool’s side in the first division. He’s lost the plot. Everyone was poor and how Butland keeps getting picked? He’ll end up going on a free at this rate. Only if we subsidise his wages. Frightening what’s happened to him. More we play him, more his value looks like going down.
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 30, 2020 21:12:28 GMT
I can't quite put into words how embarrassing that was, we were second best in every department. I wouldn't pick one single Stoke player above a Wigan player. They were quicker, sharper, slicker, faster and generally 10 times better than our sad shower of shit. That really was an all time low. Where the hell we go from here I really don't know. Can anybody see us getting another goal, let alone another point.. really worrying times..
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 30, 2020 21:12:43 GMT
I can and I'm registered disabled Please, it is Blancmange? Probably, because it is french? I thought blanc was are strikers atempts on target
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 30, 2020 21:13:43 GMT
There really actually isn't a man of the match, unless we give it to Allen , he did nothing wrong today.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jun 30, 2020 21:14:01 GMT
Can we try to look for the positives........... ..........no away fans travelled? But I wasted £23 on a ticket. Is there a refund system? EDIT: just checked on club site and there is! Not much of a consolation to be honest.
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Post by neddy on Jun 30, 2020 21:14:03 GMT
I can't quite put into words how embarrassing that was, we were second best in every department. I wouldn't pick one single Stoke player above a Wigan player. They were quicker, sharper, slicker, faster and generally 10 times better than our sad shower of shit. That really was an all time low. Where the hell we go from here I really don't know. Can anybody see us getting another goal, let alone another point.. really worrying times.. And had you heard of any of their players other than the ex vale man!
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Post by dingdongbell on Jun 30, 2020 21:14:51 GMT
I'm sat here seriously asking myself what the hell has happened to this team since thrashing Hull. It would appear the players have packed up and given in or has something gone pear shaped behind the scenes again? Or did the Club think the season would have been scrapped and the players just took advantage and let themselves go , fitness was a problem before lockdown in my opinion, however it seems like it is a massive problem now as other teams are making our players look like a walking football team .
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 30, 2020 21:17:40 GMT
Marvellous is on telly again tomorrow...I wonder if Nello is still interested in the manager's job?
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Post by sheds1862 on Jun 30, 2020 21:24:41 GMT
Strange as it seems we are not even in the relegation zone after today's game... Incredible really, big game coming up this week Boro v Hull
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Post by Kpsje on Jun 30, 2020 21:24:56 GMT
Who signed all these shit players? Rowett, Jones and O’Neill must have had a say. I’m sure they have had a say but it’s surely no coincidence that we’ve continually signed crap players for the last 3-4 years now. Resulting in what looks like 2 relegations in 3 years. Roughly starting around the same time that John Coates, Tony Scholes and Mark Cartwright took a more hands on role with recruitment? Stoke City’s problems go far beyond the manager. And until that’s acknowledged and sorted out by those at the very top there’s literally no limit to how far we can fall. I agree, but the managers who helped to sign these ‘shower of shit’ players, and coached them, should also be held to account.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 30, 2020 21:26:16 GMT
Woods would be our best centre midfielder available now. Naivety from O’Neil at best to let him go on loan unless do course he was advised it wasn’t his choice after all would you Let Woods Etebo and Badou all leave in the same window without replacement Not sure if it was O’Neil or people above him But including Duffy we let go 4 central midfielders and bought one- a Blackpool player. Can you actually get more stupid?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 30, 2020 21:33:11 GMT
Woods would be our best centre midfielder available now. Naivety from O’Neil at best to let him go on loan unless do course he was advised it wasn’t his choice after all would you Let Woods Etebo and Badou all leave in the same window without replacement When we played Barnsley away in O’Neill’s first game woods was one of our better players if not the best on the pitch then he didn’t really get a look in.
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Jun 30, 2020 21:43:08 GMT
Get the feelers out for Jay Spearing. Build team around him for next season in league one. Luke Garbutt Ipswich, Charlie Goode Northampton. Jordan Turnbull Northampton Ronan Curtis Pompey
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Post by boothenender on Jun 30, 2020 22:26:17 GMT
I feel ill. How have we fallen so far in 4 years ?. I am not a gambler but I am very tempted to have £50 on us going down. I do not blame MON for the state that we are in now. That blame lies at the feet of two men. Scholes = out of his depth. Hughes = useless cunt.
Only good thing that I can think about our present predicament is when we where last in the 3rd division and Lou was in charge of us. Mad days back then. Huge away followings. Great atmosphere at the Old Vic. Boothen End literally bouncing. And the team where absolutely outstanding. Every one at the club,players and fans totally united as one. I enjoyed our time in the Premiership also, but I think that we where punching above our weight most of the time and we had an absolutely fantastic Manager in charge, and i mean in charge. An iron fist is required to sort out the bunch of horse shit that has been dumped on us from dreadful recruitment and poor Management. I'm off to bed fuck it, fuck Stoke and fuck Butland. You useles wanker.
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Post by citynickscfc on Jun 30, 2020 22:28:25 GMT
Get the feelers out for Jay Spearing. Build team around him for next season in league one. Luke Garbutt Ipswich, Charlie Goode Northampton. Jordan Turnbull Northampton Ronan Curtis Pompey With what money
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 30, 2020 23:27:22 GMT
My opinion is that there should be an emergency review of the squad tomorrow, with every player called individually before the Club's administration to explain their position and attitude, to establish their current value to the so called "fight".
Starting with Butland. You will often hear managers and pundits saying how a particular goalkeeper is probably worth 12 points or more a season to his team, by saving at critical times. Butland has probably cost us at least that many points this season because of stupid errors and extreme ineptitude.
Why do we keep selecting players like him and Ince who are just not contributing to the team and actually have become liabilities? We have a big squad so shake things up. People might say, for example, that we have to play Ince as we have no one else who can fill his role on the right. Not true. If we are struggling to find the players, change the system to one that excludes Ince and accomodates alternatives. There are no problems, only solutions.
At the moment I feel like driving up to Clayton Woods and addressing the squad tomorrow on positive thinking and motivation.
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Post by s7oke on Jul 1, 2020 0:05:07 GMT
Get the feelers out for Jay Spearing. Build team around him for next season in league one. Luke Garbutt Ipswich, Charlie Goode Northampton. Jordan Turnbull Northampton Ronan Curtis Pompey With what money Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees. Sure we can manipulate that rule
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Jul 1, 2020 1:32:53 GMT
We need get rid of butland and shawcross first of all next season iam sick of people saying shawcross is the answer and butland needs go as well give Davies a good run in goal how fed is a ahead of him is a joke we need put Collins and souttar at centre back next season but I bet they will both want go in the summer I don't blame them really wat a shambles this club is league one might be our level lol
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 1, 2020 1:48:26 GMT
I feel ill. How have we fallen so far in 4 years ?. I am not a gambler but I am very tempted to have £50 on us going down. I do not blame MON for the state that we are in now. That blame lies at the feet of two men. Scholes = out of his depth. Hughes = useless cunt. Only good thing that I can think about our present predicament is when we where last in the 3rd division and Lou was in charge of us. Mad days back then. Huge away followings. Great atmosphere at the Old Vic. Boothen End literally bouncing. And the team where absolutely outstanding. Every one at the club,players and fans totally united as one. I enjoyed our time in the Premiership also, but I think that we where punching above our weight most of the time and we had an absolutely fantastic Manager in charge, and i mean in charge. An iron fist is required to sort out the bunch of horse shit that has been dumped on us from dreadful recruitment and poor Management. I'm off to bed fuck it, fuck Stoke and fuck Butland. You useles wanker. We had the 22nd highest net spend of football clubs WORLDWIDE in the 2010s. That’s despite dropping out of the PL for the last 2 years when transfers have really gone through the roof. We’re owned by some of the richest people in the country and they threw their weight behind it, we were never punching above our weight once we got up there. I find the notion that we were damaging because we completely squandered our position. We were never fighting against the odds to keep it other than 08/09. .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 5:47:04 GMT
Get the feelers out for Jay Spearing. Build team around him for next season in league one. Luke Garbutt Ipswich, Charlie Goode Northampton. Jordan Turnbull Northampton Ronan Curtis Pompey That would be repeating the mistakes we've already made. Next season, regardless of the division, we need to spend what cash we can in paying most of this squad up before we spend serious cash on bringing players in. The last thing we need now is a trolley dash hoovering up more named or top of their game players to bring in to a failed dressing room, knowing they will be instantly lost in the quagmire. We need to hold our hands up as a club, finally and genuinely admit we've got it wrong and embark on the long, long mission to put us right. That cull needs to start with the CEO and we need a football man in the boardroom. The youth system needs looking at with a proper learned eye from an experienced eye, to see what can be promoted and the spine of the club and team needs filling in with good experience relative to the division, but hungry experience and not experience that is on the way down and happy for it's last pay packet. If you think there are serious mercenaries now, wait till we drop a division.
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Post by pna1 on Jul 1, 2020 6:01:17 GMT
Utterly depressing waking up this morning and realising how awful they were last night. Can’t bring myself to waste words on it. God only knows what MoN can do. Apart from walk away.
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