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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 30, 2024 20:49:23 GMT
Police haters trust the police all of a sudden. You couldn’t make it up
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 30, 2024 20:49:37 GMT
The killer was born in this country. That is yet to be confirmed but that isn’t my point if you read my post properly and have a think The police themselves have said he was born in Cardiff. It would be a major shot in the bollocks if that turned out to be wrong. So I can only assume that your message implies that because the killer's family is from Rwanda, then whether he was born here or not he is still indirectly "imported" as you say. So why was it all "going to come to this"? I don't understand. You often post stuff and remain cryptic about the message. Do me a favour, unpack it all for me. Tell me in black and white what you are trying to say.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 30, 2024 20:51:43 GMT
I don't condone the mosque attack at all. But its the mosque closest to the incident. Closest to where the culprit was everyday (if he prayed). Again... if all the allegations are true. Then it doesn't become any mosque. No other mosques have been attacked. Luckily in our religion we dont have repeated murderous/cowardley acts, but if we did, the local church of the perpetrator should be a place of question and anger. Again haven't had that issue at my local church before. I do find your username odd for someone who clearly has issues with people from that part of the world/followers of certain religions. This lad is scum whoever and whatever he is, but it almost feels like some people “want” it to be a Muslim immigrant so they can get angry about it and attempt to prove a point. I’m just desperately sad that anybody could do this to some innocent little kids. I've lived in a Muslim country for over 7 years. They are and will forever be some of my best friends. If you can't see a fraction are endangering the very fabric of society.... In fact our children... I fucking give up.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jul 30, 2024 20:57:21 GMT
I'm so worried right now. I said the other day that we're not a million miles away from civil war and I stand by that. Strong community leadership is vital and needed asap because this will spiral out of control,if something isn't done quickly. Liverpool is going to be carnage on Saturday and I worry for many innocent people. Thousands will be attending and I fear it will turn ugly.
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Jul 30, 2024 20:59:52 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 30, 2024 20:59:52 GMT
That is yet to be confirmed but that isn’t my point if you read my post properly and have a think The police themselves have said he was born in Cardiff. It would be a major shot in the bollocks if that turned out to be wrong. So I can only assume that your message implies that because the killer's family is from Rwanda, then whether he was born here or not he is still indirectly "imported" as you say. So why was it all "going to come to this"? I don't understand. You often post stuff and remain cryptic about the message. Do me a favour, unpack it all for me. Tell me in black and white what you are trying to say. FFS. In this country over a good number of years now, immigration has been a huge issue for a large minority of the public. The public see a person who commits a heinous crime who isn’t “white British” and thinks “he shouldn’t even be here and he’s committing crime”. Still, more and more immigrants enter the country, crime figures increase, living standards decrease. Public thinks “we need someone to blame, it must be the immigrants”. The years go on and the anger grows, more immigrants, more news stories of violent crimes undertaken by perceived immigrants. Eventually a guy goes into a dance class and stabs a load of British children in Britain, 3 dead, 6 critical. Public has reached a peak of anger and go after the nearest non white british people and establishment and exact retribution. I absolutely do it condone any of it, it’s my opinion on why things have reached this point
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Jul 30, 2024 21:00:12 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 30, 2024 21:00:12 GMT
I don't condone the mosque attack at all. But its the mosque closest to the incident. Closest to where the culprit was everyday (if he prayed). Again... if all the allegations are true. Then it doesn't become any mosque. No other mosques have been attacked. Luckily in our religion we dont have repeated murderous/cowardley acts, but if we did, the local church of the perpetrator should be a place of question and anger. Again haven't had that issue at my local church before. I do find your username odd for someone who clearly has issues with people from that part of the world/followers of certain religions. This lad is scum whoever and whatever he is, but it almost feels like some people “want” it to be a Muslim immigrant so they can get angry about it and attempt to prove a point. I’m just desperately sad that anybody could do this to some innocent little kids. And don't be racist DirtGary. Emre was born in England. Tut Fucking Tut
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 30, 2024 21:08:29 GMT
This thread needs closing down. And whoever is moderating this board these days needs to hand out some permanent bans to the disgraceful and out and out racism that has invaded this board over the last few years.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 30, 2024 21:10:22 GMT
The police themselves have said he was born in Cardiff. It would be a major shot in the bollocks if that turned out to be wrong. So I can only assume that your message implies that because the killer's family is from Rwanda, then whether he was born here or not he is still indirectly "imported" as you say. So why was it all "going to come to this"? I don't understand. You often post stuff and remain cryptic about the message. Do me a favour, unpack it all for me. Tell me in black and white what you are trying to say. FFS. In this country over a good number of years now, immigration has been a huge issue for a large minority of the public. The public see a person who commits a heinous crime who isn’t “white British” and thinks “he shouldn’t even be here and he’s committing crime”. Still, more and more immigrants enter the country, crime figures increase, living standards decrease. Public thinks “we need someone to blame, it must be the immigrants”. The years go on and the anger grows, more immigrants, more news stories of violent crimes undertaken by perceived immigrants. Eventually a guy goes into a dance class and stabs a load of British children in Britain, 3 dead, 6 critical. Public has reached a peak of anger and go after the nearest non white british people and establishment and exact retribution. I absolutely do it condone any of it, it’s my opinion on why things have reached this point Sadly your mate big Nige and the rest have stirred up the pot mate. It's where we are now. Racism is apparntly acceptable, no more so than on this board.
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 30, 2024 21:13:28 GMT
I do find your username odd for someone who clearly has issues with people from that part of the world/followers of certain religions. This lad is scum whoever and whatever he is, but it almost feels like some people “want” it to be a Muslim immigrant so they can get angry about it and attempt to prove a point. I’m just desperately sad that anybody could do this to some innocent little kids. I've lived in a Muslim country for over 7 years. They are and will forever be some of my best friends. If you can't see a fraction are endangering the very fabric of society.... In fact our children... I fucking give up. There definitely is a minority of Muslims not wanting to integrate and segregating by way of conflict. The issue here through various comments in this thread is that this minority is by some way a vehicle for some to have a pile on for all immigrants and Islam. And I will keep making the point that we still don't know what religious background, if any, the killer has. Talking about Muslims in this thread is totally irrelevant until the facts are clear.
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Post by lordb on Jul 30, 2024 21:15:02 GMT
Incredible that anyone considers the possibility that it could be true
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Post by Veritas on Jul 30, 2024 21:16:45 GMT
The police themselves have said he was born in Cardiff. It would be a major shot in the bollocks if that turned out to be wrong. So I can only assume that your message implies that because the killer's family is from Rwanda, then whether he was born here or not he is still indirectly "imported" as you say. So why was it all "going to come to this"? I don't understand. You often post stuff and remain cryptic about the message. Do me a favour, unpack it all for me. Tell me in black and white what you are trying to say. FFS. In this country over a good number of years now, immigration has been a huge issue for a large minority of the public. The public see a person who commits a heinous crime who isn’t “white British” and thinks “he shouldn’t even be here and he’s committing crime”. Still, more and more immigrants enter the country, crime figures increase, living standards decrease. Public thinks “we need someone to blame, it must be the immigrants”. The years go on and the anger grows, more immigrants, more news stories of violent crimes undertaken by perceived immigrants. Eventually a guy goes into a dance class and stabs a load of British children in Britain, 3 dead, 6 critical. Public has reached a peak of anger and go after the nearest non white british people and establishment and exact retribution. I absolutely do it condone any of it, it’s my opinion on why things have reached this point Yes let's get back to the good old white British only days of the Krays, Hyndley & Brady, Sutcliffe, West etc etc.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 30, 2024 21:18:52 GMT
FFS. In this country over a good number of years now, immigration has been a huge issue for a large minority of the public. The public see a person who commits a heinous crime who isn’t “white British” and thinks “he shouldn’t even be here and he’s committing crime”. Still, more and more immigrants enter the country, crime figures increase, living standards decrease. Public thinks “we need someone to blame, it must be the immigrants”. The years go on and the anger grows, more immigrants, more news stories of violent crimes undertaken by perceived immigrants. Eventually a guy goes into a dance class and stabs a load of British children in Britain, 3 dead, 6 critical. Public has reached a peak of anger and go after the nearest non white british people and establishment and exact retribution. I absolutely do it condone any of it, it’s my opinion on why things have reached this point Sadly your mate big Nige and the rest have stirred up the pot mate. It's where we are now. Racism is apparntly acceptable, no more so than on this board. Do you have a problem with my explanation as to why this is happening now? What do you disagree with? As I said I don’t condone any of it, not whatsoever, simply offering my thoughts on the reason tonight has happened. If you’re not willing to listen to a common sense explanation then I’m afraid you’re being ignorant to what is going on in this country
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 30, 2024 21:20:30 GMT
FFS. In this country over a good number of years now, immigration has been a huge issue for a large minority of the public. The public see a person who commits a heinous crime who isn’t “white British” and thinks “he shouldn’t even be here and he’s committing crime”. Still, more and more immigrants enter the country, crime figures increase, living standards decrease. Public thinks “we need someone to blame, it must be the immigrants”. The years go on and the anger grows, more immigrants, more news stories of violent crimes undertaken by perceived immigrants. Eventually a guy goes into a dance class and stabs a load of British children in Britain, 3 dead, 6 critical. Public has reached a peak of anger and go after the nearest non white british people and establishment and exact retribution. I absolutely do it condone any of it, it’s my opinion on why things have reached this point Yes let's get back to the good old white British only days of the Krays, Hyndley & Brady, Sutcliffe, West etc etc. Yet another one who can’t take a reasoned explanation as to why I THINK this is happening. I suppose you think I’m racist as well?
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Post by Veritas on Jul 30, 2024 21:23:02 GMT
Yes let's get back to the good old white British only days of the Krays, Hyndley & Brady, Sutcliffe, West etc etc. Yet another one who can’t take a reasoned explanation as to why I THINK this is happening. I suppose you think I’m racist as well? Give me actual evidence of a link between increased immigration and increased crime and I will be happy to consider your academic research on the issue.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 21:23:06 GMT
Southend’s turn now
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 30, 2024 21:23:17 GMT
After all the bravery and good work the police did yesterday I find it staggering and very sad that they’re being attacked tonight.
However awful what happened was violence on the streets is never the answer especially when it’s used to push an agenda.
What ever your political views it’s to soon to use what’s happened as a weapon. Let these poor little girls rest in peace.
Whether it’s Rochdale, Southport or Leeds I’m sick of this sort of behaviour.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 21:23:41 GMT
Some difficult reading on the MB tonight
Anyway the most important thing is that the Parents, Family and Friends of the Murdered and Critically injured children and their Adult Supervisors who are in pain and mourning must feel the Love and Solidarity shown by their neighbours tonight as well as those that travelled a distance. I'm sure it helps in some small way, they must be proud to have helped.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 30, 2024 21:24:21 GMT
I've lived in a Muslim country for over 7 years. They are and will forever be some of my best friends. If you can't see a fraction are endangering the very fabric of society.... In fact our children... I fucking give up. There definitely is a minority of Muslims not wanting to integrate and segregating by way of conflict. The issue here through various comments in this thread is that this minority is by some way a vehicle for some to have a pile on for all immigrants and Islam. And I will keep making the point that we still don't know what religious background, if any, the killer has. Talking about Muslims in this thread is totally irrelevant until the facts are clear. I don't think they are having a pile on. I certainly aren't, and the posters I share a stance with I know wouldn't. I respect your point of view though. Check my posts, everyone i have added the caveat..If true... on everypost.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 30, 2024 21:24:32 GMT
As I said earlier, nobody even knows the ethnicity of the killer and while it shouldn't matter, if he just happens to be white, it would make a huge amount of sense right now for the police to name him or reveal the fact he's white because tensions are at breaking point. I won't go as far as saying that society is on the verge of breaking down but in my 34 years on this planet, I've never been more concerned about where we are. This isn't mindless destruction like previous riots, this is angry and targeted. In the past few weeks, we've had the Leeds riot, multiple street attacks, child stabbings and now tonight's riot. You can easily see this descending into something akin to the riots a few years ago, but on steroids or even a repeat of the Oldham race riots back in the early 00's where an entire town was set alight. London, Manchester, Leicester etc and potentially even Stoke-on-Trent. It only needs enough people whipped up into a frenzy.
We need to refrain from hyperbole though - no, society is not on the brink of civil war. There doesn't need to be civil war for a big riot though.
Keir Starmer has a huge job on his hands. This is his first big test. Laying flowers today while posing for photos isn't going to solve this one.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 30, 2024 21:24:35 GMT
Yet another one who can’t take a reasoned explanation as to why I THINK this is happening. I suppose you think I’m racist as well? Give me actual evidence of a link between increased immigration and increased crime and I will be happy to consider your academic research on the issue. I’m telling you what I think these people think you idiot. I’ve no idea about the crime statistic. Jesus I don’t know why people can’t understand this
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 30, 2024 21:28:49 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 30, 2024 21:29:30 GMT
The hard right and the out and out racists are having a field day on this thread. I pity every single one of them. Love conquers hate ....every time. Goodnight all.
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Post by flea79 on Jul 30, 2024 21:30:45 GMT
Am I heading back to a civil war in the uk tomorrow?
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Post by lordb on Jul 30, 2024 21:31:18 GMT
Give me actual evidence of a link between increased immigration and increased crime and I will be happy to consider your academic research on the issue. I’m telling you what I think these people think you idiot. I’ve no idea about the crime statistic. Jesus I don’t know why people can’t understand this What you think appears to be based on... Not facts
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Post by DansViews on Jul 30, 2024 21:32:40 GMT
The hard right and the out and out racists are having a field day on this thread. I pity every single one of them. Love conquers hate ....every time. Goodnight all. All that loving has been a fantastic deterrent so far !
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Post by metalhead on Jul 30, 2024 21:33:00 GMT
Come on Huddy just for you whilst you’re lurking and the rest of your chronies He doesn't half fucking waffle does he? I was surprisingly complimentary (imo) about his documentary in the Unity thread, giving it a 2/5 rating.... But all this innuendo and hyperbole is just bollocks.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 30, 2024 21:33:45 GMT
Just a hunch, but I reckon attacking the police isn't going to help this situation.
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Post by thebasfordhedgehog on Jul 30, 2024 21:34:19 GMT
The hard right and the out and out racists are having a field day on this thread. I pity every single one of them. Love conquers hate ....every time. Goodnight all. Night Huddy. “Don’t have nightmares, do sleep well”
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Jul 30, 2024 21:34:25 GMT
The hard right and the out and out racists are having a field day on this thread. I pity every single one of them. Love conquers hate ....every time. Goodnight all. Apart from when hate stabs love in the back of course.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 30, 2024 21:35:58 GMT
Some difficult reading on the MB tonight Anyway the most important thing is that the Parents, Family and Friends of the Murdered and Critically injured children and their Adult Supervisors who are in pain and mourning must feel the Love and Solidarity shown by their neighbours tonight as well as those that travelled a distance. I'm sure it helps in some small way, they must be proud to have helped. Well said.
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