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Post by thevoid on Jul 4, 2020 14:01:57 GMT
Kick it out has taken the place of the BLM lapel on the soccer Saturday pundits. I've no problem at all with Kick It Out.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 4, 2020 14:09:26 GMT
Kick it out has taken the place of the BLM lapel on the soccer Saturday pundits. I've no problem at all with Kick It Out. Footballs hypocrisy in this is wank As soon as fans are allowed back in watch uefa fifa and the other authorities do next to nothing when fans start the chanting
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Post by thevoid on Jul 4, 2020 14:21:15 GMT
I've no problem at all with Kick It Out. Footballs hypocrisy in this is wank As soon as fans are allowed back in watch uefa fifa and the other authorities do next to nothing when fans start the chanting No, but they have to 'be seen' to be doing something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 16:46:45 GMT
Here's the next one on the list of stupidity. Estate agents banned from saying 'master bedroom' due to concerns over slavery and sexism links link
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 4, 2020 16:59:31 GMT
Here's the next one on the list of stupidity. Estate agents banned from saying 'master bedroom' due to concerns over slavery and sexism links linkI personally think if everybody just ignores this shit it’ll just go away. That’s all that needs to happen. Everybody just get that middle finger up and that’ll be it🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 4, 2020 17:23:24 GMT
Here's the next one on the list of stupidity. Estate agents banned from saying 'master bedroom' due to concerns over slavery and sexism links linkI personally think if everybody just ignores this shit it’ll just go away. That’s all that needs to happen. Everybody just get that middle finger up and that’ll be it🤷🏻♂️ I hope mothercare go bump
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 4, 2020 17:28:17 GMT
I personally think if everybody just ignores this shit it’ll just go away. That’s all that needs to happen. Everybody just get that middle finger up and that’ll be it🤷🏻♂️ I hope mothercare go bump I thought they had already last year.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 4, 2020 17:46:58 GMT
Here's the next one on the list of stupidity. Estate agents banned from saying 'master bedroom' due to concerns over slavery and sexism links linkWhat about the Masters Golf? Shouldn't Mother Nature be more inclusive too?
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Post by thevoid on Jul 4, 2020 18:30:17 GMT
It's about time snooker changed it's clearly racist rules. The black ball is more valuable than any other colour, and the white is worthless.
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Post by Gods on Jul 4, 2020 19:58:01 GMT
It's about time snooker changed it's clearly racist rules. The black ball is more valuable than any other colour, and the white is worthless. Yes but the white ball is kind of in charge, if it says 'jump" the other balls say 'how high?' !! :-)
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 4, 2020 20:08:35 GMT
Here's the next one on the list of stupidity. Estate agents banned from saying 'master bedroom' due to concerns over slavery and sexism links linkWhat about the Masters Golf? Shouldn't Mother Nature be more inclusive too? Well the Cleveland Indians and Washington Redskins are looking to change their names 🤷♂️ Mount Rushmore will be in danger soon. I'm sure the Browns, Patriots and Buccaneers and MLB Braves should look at it too
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 4, 2020 20:22:50 GMT
Black cabs next on the list according to the evening standard
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Post by starkiller on Jul 4, 2020 22:31:22 GMT
Police brutality...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 4, 2020 22:41:05 GMT
Who the fuck is in charge of this lot? I get they’re being told what to do but this isn’t what they signed up to. They should be battering these idiots with as much force as necessary. Sort it Johnson!!!
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Post by steve66 on Jul 5, 2020 0:45:38 GMT
Fucking knob heads will spoil it for everyone, that dick laughing at the police force getting to safety, what a prick, the police and other services will be the ones he will turn to when needed, I’ve said before, bring the army in with water cannons/dye in, identify the culprits later
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 5, 2020 1:19:08 GMT
So why is the Riot squad not being used,?.
And that gathering could have been stopped before it got to that stage
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Post by steve66 on Jul 5, 2020 2:04:55 GMT
So why is the Riot squad not being used,?. And that gathering could have been stopped before it got to that stage I fail to see how gatherings can be stopped before getting too many in one place, these gatherings are pre arranged and impossible to police, in the current situation these idiot’s will spoil everyone getting out of lockdown
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2020 2:07:25 GMT
Fucking knob heads will spoil it for everyone, that dick laughing at the police force getting to safety, what a prick, the police and other services will be the ones he will turn to when needed, I’ve said before, bring the army in with water cannons/dye in, identify the culprits later This is what the press and PC Brigade have created by highlighting any incident where they feel the Police have been in there opinion h heavy handed and I include some posters on here in that. If they deal with these type of incidents in the way some want people people will get hurt. Due to being outnumbered that would have to happen as policing without force wouldn’t be an option. Those complaining BLM and others like them now have what they want namely a Police force afraid of making mistakes or having a complaint made against them due to the fear of Officers losing their jobs. As you say one day the dickhead making this video may need the Police if he’s assaulted or in trouble. Only in this country would Something like this happen. I doubt in the eastern block or Middle East would anything like this ever happen because the police would be allowed to control riots and if someone who shouldn’t be out there got in the way that would be down to them and looked on as them making the wrong choice. It doesn’t help that we have the likes of mayor Khan and Cressida Dick running things and Theresa May slashing numbers over the last few years. Ultimately the only way this sort of incident can be sorted would be by robust policing and you just know what the result of that would be Videos on YouTube Officers suspended The media on mass saying how awful the Police are. Certain groups stirring up a cauldron of hate More riots Sadly due to the minority they’re in a no win situation hence this reaction which when you see it on video looks ridiculous and I’m sure is the last thing officers want. I think perhaps the option would be to have a military police for incidents like this. Special times ask for special measures. If they want to behave like this perhaps it’s time for the water cannons so the streets of London In particular are taken back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 6:15:23 GMT
Fucking knob heads will spoil it for everyone, that dick laughing at the police force getting to safety, what a prick, the police and other services will be the ones he will turn to when needed, I’ve said before, bring the army in with water cannons/dye in, identify the culprits later This is what the press and PC Brigade have created by highlighting any incident where they feel the Police have been in there opinion h heavy handed and I include some posters on here in that. If they deal with these type of incidents in the way some want people people will get hurt. Due to being outnumbered that would have to happen as policing without force wouldn’t be an option. Those complaining BLM and others like them now have what they want namely a Police force afraid of making mistakes or having a complaint made against them due to the fear of Officers losing their jobs. As you say one day the dickhead making this video may need the Police if he’s assaulted or in trouble. Only in this country would Something like this happen. I doubt in the eastern block or Middle East would anything like this ever happen because the police would be allowed to control riots and if someone who shouldn’t be out there got in the way that would be down to them and looked on as them making the wrong choice. It doesn’t help that we have the likes of mayor Khan and Cressida Dick running things and Theresa May slashing numbers over the last few years. Ultimately the only way this sort of incident can be sorted would be by robust policing and you just know what the result of that would be Videos on YouTube Officers suspended The media on mass saying how awful the Police are. Certain groups stirring up a cauldron of hate More riots Sadly due to the minority they’re in a no win situation hence this reaction which when you see it on video looks ridiculous and I’m sure is the last thing officers want. I think perhaps the option would be to have a military police for incidents like this. Special times ask for special measures. If they want to behave like this perhaps it’s time for the water cannons so the streets of London In particular are taken back. Totally agree Cobs. That video was embarrassing and disgraceful. Unfortunately I fear it's far too late for the "streets to be taken back" as you say. As with so many aspects of modern Britain there is no discipline or respect anymore. Shameful !
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2020 7:17:27 GMT
The problem is that modern policing at a local level is primarily build for individuals or small groups playing up not whole communities. Thanks to Theresa May there simply aren’t the resources to deal with issues like this properly. Even if there were the resources they’d be accused of being heavy handed by the press and those causing the problems. I find it incredible that the mail were actively looking for stories from people looking to complain about the Police during lockdown.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2020 7:26:24 GMT
Fucking knob heads will spoil it for everyone, that dick laughing at the police force getting to safety, what a prick, the police and other services will be the ones he will turn to when needed, I’ve said before, bring the army in with water cannons/dye in, identify the culprits later This is what the press and PC Brigade have created by highlighting any incident where they feel the Police have been in there opinion h heavy handed and I include some posters on here in that. If they deal with these type of incidents in the way some want people people will get hurt. Due to being outnumbered that would have to happen as policing without force wouldn’t be an option. Those complaining BLM and others like them now have what they want namely a Police force afraid of making mistakes or having a complaint made against them due to the fear of Officers losing their jobs. As you say one day the dickhead making this video may need the Police if he’s assaulted or in trouble. Only in this country would Something like this happen. I doubt in the eastern block or Middle East would anything like this ever happen because the police would be allowed to control riots and if someone who shouldn’t be out there got in the way that would be down to them and looked on as them making the wrong choice. It doesn’t help that we have the likes of mayor Khan and Cressida Dick running things and Theresa May slashing numbers over the last few years. Ultimately the only way this sort of incident can be sorted would be by robust policing and you just know what the result of that would be Videos on YouTube Officers suspended The media on mass saying how awful the Police are. Certain groups stirring up a cauldron of hate More riots Sadly due to the minority they’re in a no win situation hence this reaction which when you see it on video looks ridiculous and I’m sure is the last thing officers want. I think perhaps the option would be to have a military police for incidents like this. Special times ask for special measures. If they want to behave like this perhaps it’s time for the water cannons so the streets of London In particular are taken back. In a nut shell ^ 👍 you cant make an omelette without cracking a few heads 🤕
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 5, 2020 7:43:59 GMT
It's about time snooker changed it's clearly racist rules. The black ball is more valuable than any other colour, and the white is worthless. Isn't it worth at least minus four
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2020 7:45:17 GMT
Who the fuck is in charge of this lot? I get they’re being told what to do but this isn’t what they signed up to. They should be battering these idiots with as much force as necessary. Sort it Johnson!!! Two things I can see one is they are not dressed for the occasion ie full Code1 public order with pads, psu helmets, riot vans etc and second they are hugely out numbered. What I do know is they probably wanted to start banging a few heads (metaphorically) but it's a ranked organisation and you do as your ordered and it appears there is a supervisor there directing them. There is an option to tactically withdraw regroup kit up get plenty of mates and go back in not sure if that happened.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 5, 2020 7:46:47 GMT
They should of sent the riot squads in from the start and battered the fuck out of anything that moved
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2020 7:59:45 GMT
They should of sent the riot squads in from the start and battered the fuck out of anything that moved Unfortunately they cant because they are "emasculated" by public opinion and policy and are hamstrung however once it went tits up then they should but again some boss somewhere will be making a decision to not escalate the situation. The easy option is to leave and let them get on with it, nobody hurt, no complaints but cops hate it. Swap those partying thugs for football fans and the public opinion changes the cops suddenly become thugs and should go jail, public order does not change depending who's involved.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2020 8:06:12 GMT
They should of sent the riot squads in from the start and battered the fuck out of anything that moved Unfortunately they cant because they are "emasculated" by public opinion and policy and are hamstrung however once it went tits up then they should but again some boss somewhere will be making a decision to not escalate the situation. The easy option is to leave and let them get on with it, nobody hurt, no complaints but cops hate it. Spot on but then of course those that were assaulted because of something they’ve chosen to get involved in would say the Police were nowhere to be seen. Unfortunately it’s an impossible where they’re always going to upset someone. Sadly those causing the problems seem to count just as much as those behaving who are the ones that should be being protected.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 5, 2020 8:11:12 GMT
Absolutely disgraceful. This should be main news and people from this local community should be speaking out about how it's unacceptable.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 5, 2020 8:15:01 GMT
Who the fuck is in charge of this lot? I get they’re being told what to do but this isn’t what they signed up to. They should be battering these idiots with as much force as necessary. Sort it Johnson!!! Two things I can see one is they are not dressed for the occasion ie full Code1 public order with pads, psu helmets, riot vans etc and second they are hugely out numbered. What I do know is they probably wanted to start banging a few heads (metaphorically) but it's a ranked organisation and you do as your ordered and it appears there is a supervisor there directing them. There is an option to tactically withdraw regroup kit up get plenty of mates and go back in not sure if that happened. We didn't have the clothing options when I was in the job, it was shirt,tunic, truncheon and that was it. We did have the SPG though and they sure as hell didn't take any prisoners. OK they were criticised a bit but they got the job done (if you get my drift) and crowds soon dispersed because they were shit scared of them. They just didn't care about social stance, skin colour or anything, if you were causing trouble you had reason to be afraid. This was Notting Hill.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2020 8:21:44 GMT
Two things I can see one is they are not dressed for the occasion ie full Code1 public order with pads, psu helmets, riot vans etc and second they are hugely out numbered. What I do know is they probably wanted to start banging a few heads (metaphorically) but it's a ranked organisation and you do as your ordered and it appears there is a supervisor there directing them. There is an option to tactically withdraw regroup kit up get plenty of mates and go back in not sure if that happened. We didn't have the clothing options when I was in the job, it was shirt,tunic, truncheon and that was it. We did have the SPG though and they sure as hell didn't take any prisoners. OK they were criticised a bit but they got the job done (if you get my drift) and crowds soon dispersed because they were shit scared of them. They just didn't care about social stance, skin colour or anything, if you were causing trouble you had reason to be afraid. This was Notting Hill. Even when I started I was in a shirt and tie mate but they evolved away from taking no prisoners to looking good and be kind!! We used to go into the stands and arrest folk in the seats or terrace or in the pub and pull them out but that's gone now. I agree with you they are not scared anymore and that's because cops have to be polite and kind because god help you if your caught telling everyone to fuck off or else.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2020 8:32:42 GMT
Two things I can see one is they are not dressed for the occasion ie full Code1 public order with pads, psu helmets, riot vans etc and second they are hugely out numbered. What I do know is they probably wanted to start banging a few heads (metaphorically) but it's a ranked organisation and you do as your ordered and it appears there is a supervisor there directing them. There is an option to tactically withdraw regroup kit up get plenty of mates and go back in not sure if that happened. We didn't have the clothing options when I was in the job, it was shirt,tunic, truncheon and that was it. We did have the SPG though and they sure as hell didn't take any prisoners. OK they were criticised a bit but they got the job done (if you get my drift) and crowds soon dispersed because they were shit scared of them. They just didn't care about social stance, skin colour or anything, if you were causing trouble you had reason to be afraid. This was Notting Hill. I think the SPG merited criticism. The murder of Blair Peach tells a story of an organisation out of control. Where we are today in terms of policing is unacceptable, but the SPG is not the solution. It was always part of the problem. That said - I’ve no idea how to fix things!!
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