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Post by musik on Jul 1, 2020 17:26:53 GMT
Ten thousands of knee operations are canceled here in Sweden, due to the Corona virus.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 1, 2020 17:30:20 GMT
The video footage of Thameside Police Officers "taking the knee" to a group of "BLM" after been ordered to by their sergeant finished it for me, they are then filmed shaking hands with "BLM" protesters how can they ever be perceived as politically impartial ever again, no wonder they have lost the trust of many ordinary people in this country, their Sargent should be sacked with immediate effect, have they even researched what and who is behind the BLM organisation FFS. I know what I'd have said 🖕 first off no way on gods earth is that a lawful order so he/she could shout all they want and there is fuck all they could do about it.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 1, 2020 17:37:21 GMT
I’d be interested to know Momo and Orbs thoughts on this, This is a great summary of what a lot on here are saying that have had the R word thrown at them or suggested. For starters - I definitely have not called anyone a racist or even thrown the R word around. That's simply not true Cobham. Your post implies to the reader that I have when it isn't the case. Secondly I've read the don't divide us page and would say that I agree with the majority of what is written but not all of it. For example, I would say it was/is offensive to have statues of the people who profited from the slave trade still on show in different towns. A plaque to show their existence so that the same thing never happens again could be placed there instead. For what it's worth I don't really agree with 'taking a knee' either. Fair play to you for sharing your thoughts. Re the use of the R word it was more directed towards the other poster mentioned so apologies if I got it wrong. I guess ultimately we are all looking for the same thing namely equality and fairness to all though we have differing views regarding what is and what isn’t acceptable.
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Post by musik on Jul 1, 2020 17:46:50 GMT
have they even researched what and who is behind the BLM organisation FFS. Three black middle aged ladies. But the BLM movement have no real structure.
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Post by Orbs on Jul 1, 2020 18:19:57 GMT
For starters - I definitely have not called anyone a racist or even thrown the R word around. That's simply not true Cobham. Your post implies to the reader that I have when it isn't the case. Secondly I've read the don't divide us page and would say that I agree with the majority of what is written but not all of it. For example, I would say it was/is offensive to have statues of the people who profited from the slave trade still on show in different towns. A plaque to show their existence so that the same thing never happens again could be placed there instead. For what it's worth I don't really agree with 'taking a knee' either. Fair play to you for sharing your thoughts. Re the use of the R word it was more directed towards the other poster mentioned so apologies if I got it wrong. I guess ultimately we are all looking for the same thing namely equality and fairness to all though we have differing views regarding what is and what isn’t acceptable. Completely agree and no worries
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 1, 2020 19:34:32 GMT
have they even researched what and who is behind the BLM organisation FFS. Three black middle aged ladies. But the BLM movement have no real structure. Three black middle aged lesbian ladies who happen to hate men on account of the fact they were thrown out of home for coming out by their fathers to be slightly more precise. If you read their mission statement on families and structure carefully you will notice the word father isn't mentioned once.
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Post by musik on Jul 1, 2020 20:29:28 GMT
Three black middle aged ladies. But the BLM movement have no real structure. Three black middle aged lesbian ladies who happen to hate men on account of the fact they were thrown out of home for coming out by their fathers to be slightly more precise. If you read their mission statement on families and structure carefully you will notice the word father isn't mentioned once. Mother twice, I guess. Thanks for the info. I will read it.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 1, 2020 20:34:18 GMT
Three black middle aged lesbian ladies who happen to hate men on account of the fact they were thrown out of home for coming out by their fathers to be slightly more precise. If you read their mission statement on families and structure carefully you will notice the word father isn't mentioned once. Mother twice, I guess. Thanks for the info. I will read it. My point is their organisation is flawed top to bottom. BLM sounds like something filled with clean and virtuous aims. Look behind the curtain and you find something very very different. And before anyone starts I have no issue with lesbians, white or black or any colour, I watch them on youporn all the time
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 1, 2020 21:01:56 GMT
The video footage of Thameside Police Officers "taking the knee" to a group of "BLM" after been ordered to by their sergeant finished it for me, they are then filmed shaking hands with "BLM" protesters how can they ever be perceived as politically impartial ever again, no wonder they have lost the trust of many ordinary people in this country, their Sargent should be sacked with immediate effect, have they even researched what and who is behind the BLM organisation FFS. I know what I'd have said 🖕 first off no way on gods earth is that a lawful order so he/she could shout all they want and there is fuck all they could do about it. The person responsible for giving the order needs naming and shaming then disciplining, as for the officers who obeyed the order knowing full well it was not enforceable they should be reprimanded along with the one's who stood by whilst criminals defaced and destroyed monuments, these people are public servants who are paid to uphold our laws if they are incapable or unwilling to do so we have to employ people who will.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 1, 2020 21:19:57 GMT
I know what I'd have said 🖕 first off no way on gods earth is that a lawful order so he/she could shout all they want and there is fuck all they could do about it. The person responsible for giving the order needs naming and shaming then disciplining, as for the officers who obeyed the order knowing full well it was not enforceable they should be reprimanded along with the one's who stood by whilst criminals defaced and destroyed monuments, these people are public servants who are paid to uphold our laws if they are incapable or unwilling to do so we have to employ people who will. To be fair mate knowing some cops they wouldn't know what a lawful order is because they're literally told what to do every day. Some have lost the ability to think or are too inexperienced or afraid to question, I've not seen the vid but what I would do is bring that supervisor in my office and ask on what authority he/she gave that order. And then say go away and educate yourself on what you can and cant do and what constitutes a lawful order. Sometimes cops have more rank than ability and knowledge and it shows and cops laugh all the time at stupid bosses.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 1, 2020 21:30:55 GMT
This video is the one that had the most impact on me and made me realise exactly why I wouldn’t kneel if asked.
After watching it really worried me that the EPL was backing an organisation where this guy was quite a big influence.
It’s good to see that finally people are realising that you can be against racism but not support BLM.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 1, 2020 21:31:57 GMT
The person responsible for giving the order needs naming and shaming then disciplining, as for the officers who obeyed the order knowing full well it was not enforceable they should be reprimanded along with the one's who stood by whilst criminals defaced and destroyed monuments, these people are public servants who are paid to uphold our laws if they are incapable or unwilling to do so we have to employ people who will. To be fair mate knowing some cops they wouldn't know what a lawful order is because they're literally told what to do every day. Some have lost the ability to think or are too inexperienced or afraid to question, I've not seen the vid but what I would do is bring that supervisor in my office and ask on what authority he/she gave that order. And then say go away and educate yourself on what you can and cant do and what constitutes a lawful order. Sometimes cops have more rank than ability and knowledge and it shows and cops laugh all the time at stupid bosses. I have a nephew who is a Sargent in the Police force he's the biggest creep I have ever encountered hence the rank, he'd sell his mother for a pat on the back he's already shopped his "mates" and his cousin for football related violence which was dismissed by the CPS, I feel sorry for anyone under his command he's a grade A c*nt, thankfully I have a skeleton locked away of his which I can release at the right time and he knows it
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 1, 2020 21:57:56 GMT
To be fair mate knowing some cops they wouldn't know what a lawful order is because they're literally told what to do every day. Some have lost the ability to think or are too inexperienced or afraid to question, I've not seen the vid but what I would do is bring that supervisor in my office and ask on what authority he/she gave that order. And then say go away and educate yourself on what you can and cant do and what constitutes a lawful order. Sometimes cops have more rank than ability and knowledge and it shows and cops laugh all the time at stupid bosses. I have a nephew who is a Sargent in the Police force he's the biggest creep I have ever encountered hence the rank, he'd sell his mother for a pat on the back he's already shopped his "mates" and his cousin for football related violence which was dismissed by the CPS, I feel sorry for anyone under his command he's a grade A c*nt, thankfully I have a skeleton locked away of his which I can release at the right time and he knows it It's like footy mate his success is down to his troops I've seen plenty off over the years being a knob ultimately will only get you so far it might get discipline but it doesn't get results and long term they fail because the shift down tools and wont help. It's dead easy to follow policy but fuck me you wouldn't get much done and what was done would be really slow 😉 I could write a file in minutes or hours depending on who was asking.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 1, 2020 22:28:48 GMT
I have a nephew who is a Sargent in the Police force he's the biggest creep I have ever encountered hence the rank, he'd sell his mother for a pat on the back he's already shopped his "mates" and his cousin for football related violence which was dismissed by the CPS, I feel sorry for anyone under his command he's a grade A c*nt, thankfully I have a skeleton locked away of his which I can release at the right time and he knows it It's like footy mate his success is down to his troops I've seen plenty off over the years being a knob ultimately will only get you so far it might get discipline but it doesn't get results and long term they fail because the shift down tools and wont help. It's dead easy to follow policy but fuck me you wouldn't get much done and what was done would be really slow 😉 I could write a file in minutes or hours depending on who was asking. I am waiting my time on this one mate, revenge is a dish best served cold ! as soon as we leave the country this skeleton will be release by my solicitor under instruction, it will finish his career like it did for his mates and cousin even though they were innocent he is not and I have the proof required to nail the twat.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 2, 2020 8:05:31 GMT
This video is the one that had the most impact on me and made me realise exactly why I wouldn’t kneel if asked. After watching it really worried me that the EPL was backing an organisation where this guy was quite a big influence. It’s good to see that finally people are realising that you can be against racism but not support BLM. A great example of trying to smuggle something like Marxism through the back door. Police reform and other things need to change but we don’t need the kind of revolution this guy wants. He’s clueless.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 2, 2020 8:06:46 GMT
People need to dig deeper into the actual BLM movement instead of being sheep. Finally we're getting there slowly, why didn't the big Corps do their homework? Any chance of an apology or statement?
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 2, 2020 8:10:22 GMT
This video is the one that had the most impact on me and made me realise exactly why I wouldn’t kneel if asked. After watching it really worried me that the EPL was backing an organisation where this guy was quite a big influence. It’s good to see that finally people are realising that you can be against racism but not support BLM. A great example of trying to smuggle something like Marxism through the back door. Police reform and other things need to change but we don’t need the kind of revolution this guy wants. He’s clueless. I opened this with every intent of watching all 25 minutes listening to the activists side, but I lasted 50 seconds after he dismissed any violent protest ahead occurred. Plonker.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 2, 2020 8:32:00 GMT
A great example of trying to smuggle something like Marxism through the back door. Police reform and other things need to change but we don’t need the kind of revolution this guy wants. He’s clueless. I opened this with every intent of watching all 25 minutes listening to the activists side, but I lasted 50 seconds after he dismissed any violent protest ahead occurred. Plonker. I think if you showed this to every PL player / manager and explained to them that this guy represents what They’re kneeling for they’d be horrified at what he says. I’d imagine there’d be a lot changing there stance on things. It’s easy to dismiss him as a crank and not a representation of the movement but my understanding is he’s quite a senior member of BLM.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 8:47:30 GMT
This video is the one that had the most impact on me and made me realise exactly why I wouldn’t kneel if asked. After watching it really worried me that the EPL was backing an organisation where this guy was quite a big influence. It’s good to see that finally people are realising that you can be against racism but not support BLM. A great example of trying to smuggle something like Marxism through the back door. Police reform and other things need to change but we don’t need the kind of revolution this guy wants. He’s clueless. The charity worker from Manchester who was sacked recently was only reiterating what this idiot said, and what has already been stated in the media. Yet, despite his charity helping black people, he was hounded out of his post. Interestingly, the impression I got regarding his superiors was that they didn't want to remove him but that they felt under pressure to do so (worried about threats/ violence maybe?) Frightening.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 8:52:09 GMT
Three black middle aged ladies. But the BLM movement have no real structure. Three black middle aged lesbian ladies who happen to hate men on account of the fact they were thrown out of home for coming out by their fathers to be slightly more precise. If you read their mission statement on families and structure carefully you will notice the word father isn't mentioned once. Oh great, if you criticise them you're racist AND homophobic then.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 9:00:13 GMT
George Floyd has been used in the same way that the far right name-checked Lee Rigby. He's a means to an end.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 9:12:54 GMT
have they even researched what and who is behind the BLM organisation FFS. Three black middle aged ladies. But the BLM movement have no real structure. God damn The Three Degrees. I knew it was them. Just a crap Sister Sledge
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 2, 2020 9:13:35 GMT
On today’s edition of another reason white people are racist ....
It should come as no surprise that it only applies to white people apparently, if you’re BAME and only date people of your own race then you’re just protecting your race.
Complete Kafka trap of an argument.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 2, 2020 9:19:37 GMT
On today’s edition of another reason white people are racist .... It should come as no surprise that it only applies to white people apparently, if you’re BAME and only date people of your own race then you’re just protecting your race. Complete Kafka trap of an argument. I don’t know why people feel the need to reply to to this absolute bile. Just ignore it. It’s just giving the idiots exposure
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Post by hoffgreen on Jul 2, 2020 9:32:37 GMT
The comments section on the BBC website Burnley game the other night was interesting. The moderators removed about 2/3rds of them. Hmmm wonder why?!
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Post by foster on Jul 2, 2020 9:38:12 GMT
On today’s edition of another reason white people are racist .... It should come as no surprise that it only applies to white people apparently, if you’re BAME and only date people of your own race then you’re just protecting your race. Complete Kafka trap of an argument. I don’t know why people feel the need to reply to to this absolute bile. Just ignore it. It’s just giving the idiots exposure Especially when that twat come outs with this cracker... Before you ask: - no, it's not comparable to other sexual preferences which are either innate (gender) or don't uphold a system of structural oppression (height) - no, it's not racism if POC exclude white people from their sex lives (this is often done to protect from racism)
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 2, 2020 9:38:54 GMT
On today’s edition of another reason white people are racist .... It should come as no surprise that it only applies to white people apparently, if you’re BAME and only date people of your own race then you’re just protecting your race. Complete Kafka trap of an argument. Do these twats actually earn a living spouting this type of bullshit
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 2, 2020 9:42:57 GMT
I don’t know why people feel the need to reply to to this absolute bile. Just ignore it. It’s just giving the idiots exposure Especially when that twat come outs with this cracker... Before you ask: - no, it's not comparable to other sexual preferences which are either innate (gender) or don't uphold a system of structural oppression (height) - no, it's not racism if POC exclude white people from their sex lives (this is often done to protect from racism)I suggest he visits a psychotherapist as he’s clearly mentally unstable
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 9:46:39 GMT
On today’s edition of another reason white people are racist .... It should come as no surprise that it only applies to white people apparently, if you’re BAME and only date people of your own race then you’re just protecting your race. Complete Kafka trap of an argument. Please tell me that's a Tatiana McGrath-esque parody account 😂(although his Twitter handle says that he's affiliated to The Grauniad and BBC, quelle surprise!) It's almost as if he was given a list of buzz phrases and told to incorporate them into his post. And, as you point out, it's a one way street which only applies to whitey (quelle surprise part 2). In fairness, he's getting pelters on there. Nice PowerPoint presentation though.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 9:53:45 GMT
I don’t know why people feel the need to reply to to this absolute bile. Just ignore it. It’s just giving the idiots exposure Especially when that twat come outs with this cracker... Before you ask: - no, it's not comparable to other sexual preferences which are either innate (gender) or don't uphold a system of structural oppression (height) - no, it's not racism if POC exclude white people from their sex lives (this is often done to protect from racism)Could you not say cracker please. Offensive to white people 😊😉
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