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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 14, 2020 19:36:43 GMT
This certainly makes the signing of Vokes look like another acknowledgement of failure. Just how much money have we wasted? Always seemed like Vokes was a board signing and not so much a Jones signing as when he brought Gregory in last summer, Vokes took a back seat immediately after. Would Jones have replaced an 7-8 million striker with a free transfer so quickly after spunking that amount on Vokes 6 months before?
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Post by neddy on Aug 14, 2020 19:44:52 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers?
My money on Afobe or Gregory off?
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Post by AlliG on Aug 14, 2020 19:45:08 GMT
I presume the manager is hoping he does a similar job for us as Glenn Murray has done for Brighton, since he was the same age as Fletcher.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2020 19:45:54 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers? My money on Afobe or Gregory off? What are the odds for Campbell?
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Post by neddy on Aug 14, 2020 19:46:25 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers? My money on Afobe or Gregory off? What are the odds for Campbell? Hopefully very long! 🤦♂️
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Post by werrington on Aug 14, 2020 19:50:19 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers? My money on Afobe or Gregory off? What are the odds for Campbell? I’d doubt anybody in the championship could afford him and he’s now playing in a team who are one of a few heavy favourites for promotion It’s hard to see a premiership taking him yet unless it’s with a view to loaning him out He won’t be sold
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 14, 2020 19:50:34 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers? My money on Afobe or Gregory off? What are the odds for Campbell? Campbell will have a buy out clause, but will probably take something like 20 million to trigger it. Bournemouth offered 10 on January deadline day!
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Post by metalhead on Aug 14, 2020 19:50:48 GMT
I presume the manager is hoping he does a similar job for us as Glenn Murray has done for Brighton, since he was the same age as Fletcher. It's entirely possible he could. He's the first striker we've had in years with a proven goal scoring pedigree over a decent career. That said, he's never going to score 20 a season is he? Odd one. Cost nothing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2020 19:51:30 GMT
What are the odds for Campbell? I’d doubt anybody in the championship could afford him and he’s now playing in a team who are one of a few heavy favourites for promotion It’s hard to see a premiership taking him yet unless it’s with a view to loaning him out He won’t be sold I do hope not.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 14, 2020 19:56:49 GMT
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 14, 2020 20:08:08 GMT
Not an exciting signing for me. But not entirely strange one either. Diouf left, and I think this means Afobe will depart again. So we will have 4 strikers.
We used Vokes and Gregory as a pair in the last few games, so having another target man to compete for Vokes’ role isn’t a terrible idea. Just hope it doesn’t prevent Campbell from regaining his starting spot and keeping it.
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Post by saxloverscfc on Aug 14, 2020 20:09:34 GMT
Well something has to now give in the striker dept doesn’t it as no way we’d go in with 5 front line strikers? My money on Afobe or Gregory off? What are the odds for Campbell? You’d think it would be either Campbell shifted onto the right or Gregory gone but this is stoke so who knows 🤷♂️
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 14, 2020 20:17:59 GMT
Think fletch will be a good signing, hes that kind of striker who like to use his presence to move around in the box, we havent had that for years. Great with his head aswell, not had that since crouch went. Hoping he is a good leader and has been around enough to know what the championship is about. I'm chuffed we havent gone with some one like taylor who was happy to look after himself first above the team who play his wages. He is probably fitter than most players and I hope he gets us those goals that we just seem to miss or would get if we had a good striker.
Oneill knows what he wants and I like how he has gone and got what he wants with minimal fuss.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 20:19:48 GMT
Regardless of his 2 in the final games this season, Gregory is not a striker I expect to score 10 or so unless he starts most games. Fletcher could be a very useful impact sub. He’s also good as a solo striker.
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Post by spiderpuss on Aug 14, 2020 20:20:06 GMT
Odd one, I have the appearance of a prestwichpotter avatar regarding this. Not really required, but I will trust the manager. You'd think we're shipping stuff out here, but even so I don't understand the signing of another slow supertanker of striker. This isn't the premiership where you can litter the reserves with a load of duds, every player must have a use and purpose.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Aug 14, 2020 20:29:26 GMT
Not sure how I feel about the club signing a decent, but ageing, journeyman striker at this moment.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 14, 2020 21:10:03 GMT
It’ll be interesting to wait until 12 September to see who’s still at the club and barring injuries the initial 11 and bench. Not trying to out think MON!!
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Post by David Brent on Aug 14, 2020 21:12:57 GMT
Don’t forget to say the I’m thankful he’s proved me wrong bollocks if he’s a success I find it’s always best to give somebody a chance rather than crucify them on the day they’ve signed I love the fact he has clocked what, 120'ish posts, and he is already showing up as a heavyweight despond. God forbid anyone can share an adverse opinion on here 😂
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 14, 2020 21:30:25 GMT
Regardless of his 2 in the final games this season, Gregory is not a striker I expect to score 10 or so unless he starts most games. Fletcher could be a very useful impact sub. He’s also good as a solo striker. A very mobile and intelligent forward who knows where the net is and is comfortable as a lone striker.Also very good in the air.There is nothing not to like, it's just keeping him fit that will be the challenge.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 14, 2020 21:52:11 GMT
Campbell will get 20 plus next season he must play if fit maybe not a centre forward but coming in from wide,
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 14, 2020 21:52:51 GMT
theathletic.co.uk/1650792/2020/04/15/steven-fletcher-sheffield-wednesday-contract/Fletcher has been in arguably the best form of his career.
When Wednesday were without Fletcher for eight games early this year because of a knee injury, they looked a shadow of the side they are when he is in it and won only twice.
Although Fletcher should undoubtedly have scored more goals over the course of his career, he has never been truly prolific. He is about far more than just scoring goals though, which is why he has been vital for Wednesday over the last 18 months. And he has shown no sign of slowing down as he’s got further into his 30s and the time left on his contract has decreased. That is testament to his professionalism and his devotion to looking after himself.
“Everyone keeps asking me how I’ve come back from the injury but I was at the training ground every day, first in and last out,” Fletcher said. “As I get older I need to look after myself. It helped me with my recovery. I have been about the game for a long time now so a lot of the younger lads look up to you and they respect you and will listen to you.
Former Wednesday winger George Boyd added of Fletcher: “He’s a motivator definitely, he is always giving people confidence and encouraging everyone. When something needs saying though, he’s not afraid to say it and he’s not afraid to give someone a rollicking if they aren’t doing their job.
“Probably what annoys him most is people not trying and people not working hard, because you can see from his game that he is always pressing and working hard for the team. If people weren’t at it at training he would tell them.”
“Maybe it’s why he gets injured quite a bit because he’s always 100 per cent and always has his body on the line,” Boyd told The Athletic. “He trains every day as if he is playing. The young boys can only look up to that. He’s just a class act.
"As a striker in the modern day, every time you pass into him he’s got a great touch and he’ll hold it up. I think he’s got even stronger the last few years so he’s got that aspect of his game which has improved.
“As a striker you want to know the ball is going to be safe and with Steven you know you are going to get that, he’s got a good turn of pace and he’s a goalscorer which you need. He has got a great finish with his left foot and it’s always in the side of the netting when he finishes. He is definitely one of the best finishers I have played with.”
Another signing that suggests he's prioritising working on the character of the dressing room Let's hope he's matured a lot then.
If they're kosher (& if they're not, they're a couple of very elaborate mock ups) the press clippings posted earlier in the thread of him being an absolute PL banker of the highest order don't say to me he's the kind of character we're after.
(I'm sure he has btw, otherwise he'd be the Scottish equivalent of Niall [?] Ranger & hopefully MoN wouldn't have touched him with Uncle Pete's transfer dong.)
I was against it when rumoured but ... we've got him now and his absolutely glowing reports from BB & a winger I've never heard of do paint him in a totally different (& far more compelling) light.
For: he scores goals, he's a free, his wages won't bust the bank and, depending on which guestimate you believe, will be a substantial saving on MBD's, he's just coming off the best season of his career and playing well. He could well be substantially better than our central strikers of this season gone. Subject to a suitor, he could also mean we can ditch either one or, shock - horror, two of our existing non- performing strikers, further improving FFP. If he's a swap for Gregory, I've already done it before the ink was dry.
Against: he's too old, he's too shit etc, etc.
(Let's back the gaffer and, in classic footie parlance, focus on the positives.)
Can we just have that tricky winger now to add pace and supply the crosses.
Oh, and the 'proper' Wheello upgrade' to give our much maligned defence some real cover and we're good to go for me.
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Post by fulagoals on Aug 14, 2020 21:58:50 GMT
What are the odds for Campbell? Campbell will have a buy out clause, but will probably take something like 20 million to trigger it. Bournemouth offered 10 on January deadline day! OFFS Fred, really!!🙄🙄
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 14, 2020 22:06:22 GMT
13 goals last season?.....if afobe is played right too, he will get loads of goals too
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 14, 2020 22:07:11 GMT
What are the odds for Campbell? You’d think it would be either Campbell shifted onto the right or Gregory gone but this is stoke so who knows 🤷♂️ Who was it that was showing interest in gregory, was it Cardiff?
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 14, 2020 22:46:27 GMT
13 goals last season?.....if afobe is played right too, he will get loads of goals tooWhere is the evidence for that? Afobe did score more than 13 in one season, that was 5 years ago, 22 over 46 matches. No one will be playing 46 matches next compressed season. There is clearly an attitude problem with Afobe, under Jones particularly he could not be bothered. Maybe MON could shake him out of that? In 2016 Wolves' head of football development and recruitment Kevin Thelwell told fans: "Benik was no longer trying to play for us. That was undermining everything we were trying to achieve"; chief executive Jez Moxey added that " [Afobe] insisted on moving. We were forced into doing a deal that we didn't want to do". Wolves did buy him back from Bournemouth after a loan period in 2018, but, as at Bournemouth, he scored very little, and they off-loaded him asap to us (Rowett). 9 goals in 50 appearances as a Stoke player is pathetic. Even if MON did change his attitude, Afobe will never be as productive a striker as Fletcher has been. Now MON has got Fletcher I don't think there will be much more bulling up of Afobe from MON.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2020 22:48:49 GMT
How long a contract have we given him?
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Post by gogogadget on Aug 14, 2020 22:51:24 GMT
Good signing.
Will be a real talisman. Squads need experience. He will offer lots more than just the obvious experience.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 14, 2020 22:57:40 GMT
Good for the dressing room, experienced
For crying out loud we might be shit on the field but by God, we've got the most experienced and squeaky clean dressing room this side of the Irrawaddy
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 14, 2020 23:16:52 GMT
How long a contract have we given him? 2 year apparently.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2020 23:41:35 GMT
How long a contract have we given him? 2 year apparently. Of course we have 🤦♂️
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