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Post by vokeswagen on Jun 7, 2020 22:08:17 GMT
Yeah - with logic and reason ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) So whats your logic and reason for burning the flag? Is it to keep warm on a cold day? Is it cos you dont like the colours on it? Or are you under 30 with no brain following the brain dead masses by destroying the country on the back of a supposed peaceful process? Just asking thats all 🤔 Classic strawman ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm not saying it's logical or reasonable to burn a flag; I'm questioning whether it should carry a sentence of twenty years. Hypothetical scenario: a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 22:09:32 GMT
I want to know when these leftist morons are going to start protesting Saudi Arabia, where slavery is still practised and Qatar where they're currently using slave labour to build the infrastructure for the World Cup. Strange how they protest over shit that happened generations ago and yet ignore the slavery that's actually going on right now. I wonder why that is? If they want to protest slavery that happened in the past, then why not start with Egypt and the pyramids? Oh yeah, that's right... There's regular protests against the Saudi regime, especially when they have state visits to the UK. The biggest modern day slavery scandal is in Libya, I wonder what caused that? The establishment has no morals, people that fight against these type of injustices generally get drowned out.......
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 7, 2020 22:09:39 GMT
The fact that there's more discussion on here condemning the protests rather than the actual issue at hand just goes to show on what side a lot of posters' bread is buttered. Hope this helps ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/9214ac0ee2ce86e3354f44bb89b56fe7.jpg) Nice Venn diagram. Clears it up nicely
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 7, 2020 22:12:06 GMT
So whats your logic and reason for burning the flag? Is it to keep warm on a cold day? Is it cos you dont like the colours on it? Or are you under 30 with no brain following the brain dead masses by destroying the country on the back of a supposed peaceful process? Just asking thats all 🤔 Classic strawman ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm not saying it's logical or reasonable to burn a flag; I'm questioning whether it should carry a sentence of twenty years. Hypothetical scenario: a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry? Well how come robbing a bank has a high prison sentence than killing someone? Money>life?
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Post by thevoid on Jun 7, 2020 22:14:14 GMT
Hope this helps ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/9214ac0ee2ce86e3354f44bb89b56fe7.jpg) Nice Venn diagram. Clears it up nicely Shamelessy pinched from a Fuckbook acquaintance who was fighting a frenzied mob online. And it sums up my position rather succinctly.
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Post by Gods on Jun 7, 2020 22:14:32 GMT
One thing ive noticed about all these nob heads attacking the police and defacig heritage is that the vast majority are all 30 or under. Haven't seen too many oldies on these videos. About time these tossers got locked up. Looks like mostly 'Uny' students and a few young professionals with a small handful of veterans who haven't missed a good protest since Greenham Common. Oh and the usual suspects from rent-a-mob. Almost all white. The great dispossessed it ain't. Does anyone know what they actually want, apart from a good day out after 3 months of lock down?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jun 7, 2020 22:18:30 GMT
Classic strawman ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm not saying it's logical or reasonable to burn a flag; I'm questioning whether it should carry a sentence of twenty years. Hypothetical scenario: a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry? Well how come robbing a bank has a high prison sentence than killing someone? Money>life? That doesn't answer my question. We're not talking about current UK sentencing: we're talking about what you think it should be. So a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry, in your opinion?
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Post by musik on Jun 7, 2020 22:22:48 GMT
Latest over here:
In Sweden Gothenburg city centre today, Black Lives Matter protests lead to shop windows and car window screens were crashed and also attacks on the police force.
The police force arrested all the trouble makers - just to find out they had nothing to do with the parade in reality!! ALL of them had a crime record, a life style of crime, showing up at football games, EU meetings, sport events et cetera.
Dig a hole
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 7, 2020 22:25:30 GMT
Well how come robbing a bank has a high prison sentence than killing someone? Money>life? That doesn't answer my question. We're not talking about current UK sentencing: we're talking about what you think it should be. So a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry, in your opinion? Depends on the victim. Sentence should determined on level of injury, and if the culprit is caught. This could be a fine to a custodial sentence. You're mixing a message though from burning the national flag to pub fight. To me burning the flag is a disgrace and deserves a meaty sentence.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jun 7, 2020 22:27:46 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. We're not talking about current UK sentencing: we're talking about what you think it should be. So a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry, in your opinion? Depends on the victim. Sentence should determined on level of injury, and if the culprit is caught. This could be a fine to a custodial sentence. You're mixing a message though from burning the national flag to pub fight. To me burning the flag is a disgrace and deserves a meaty sentence. So assaulting a flag is more serious than assaulting a human being. Glad we sorted that out, cheers ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 7, 2020 22:30:47 GMT
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 7, 2020 22:31:17 GMT
Depends on the victim. Sentence should determined on level of injury, and if the culprit is caught. This could be a fine to a custodial sentence. You're mixing a message though from burning the national flag to pub fight. To me burning the flag is a disgrace and deserves a meaty sentence. So assaulting a flag is more serious than assaulting a human being. Glad we sorted that out, cheers ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) No problem. Cant wait for our next chat. 🙄
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Post by thevoid on Jun 7, 2020 22:57:42 GMT
We hat I’m watching on the news now in London has nothing to do with BLM. It’s an excuse for some just to cause troubled Yeah, but Brexit & silly posts on the Oatcake will show’em. You should know.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 7, 2020 23:14:34 GMT
I want to know when these leftist morons are going to start protesting Saudi Arabia, where slavery is still practised and Qatar where they're currently using slave labour to build the infrastructure for the World Cup. Strange how they protest over shit that happened generations ago and yet ignore the slavery that's actually going on right now. I wonder why that is? If they want to protest slavery that happened in the past, then why not start with Egypt and the pyramids? Oh yeah, that's right... Are you out of your frigging mind? It's filthy right wing capitalism that turns a 'blind eye' to Saudi. Spot the difference. ![](https://i.insider.com/5a9ff19f5cc4108e018b457d?width=1200&format=jpeg) ![](https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-450/9451885h/d1407e05/crown-prince-of-saudi-arabia-mohammed-bin-salman-protest-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-9451885h.jpg)
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Jun 7, 2020 23:17:06 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. We're not talking about current UK sentencing: we're talking about what you think it should be. So a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry, in your opinion? Depends on the victim. Sentence should determined on level of injury, and if the culprit is caught. This could be a fine to a custodial sentence. You're mixing a message though from burning the national flag to pub fight. To me burning the flag is a disgrace and deserves a meaty sentence. fucking maniac
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jun 8, 2020 5:38:28 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. We're not talking about current UK sentencing: we're talking about what you think it should be. So a bloke goes out, has a few jars and starts a fight with someone purely because he's pissed and aggro. What sentence should that carry, in your opinion? Depends on the victim. Sentence should determined on level of injury, and if the culprit is caught. This could be a fine to a custodial sentence. You're mixing a message though from burning the national flag to pub fight. To me burning the flag is a disgrace and deserves a meaty sentence. ![](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/550e0843e4b02547ba9a14aa/t/577c7953f5e231497875318b/1467775322286/?format=1500w)
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jun 8, 2020 6:07:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 10:54:30 GMT
Well worth half an hour of your time if you can spare it.....
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Post by felonious on Jun 8, 2020 12:23:47 GMT
One thing ive noticed about all these nob heads attacking the police and defacig heritage is that the vast majority are all 30 or under. Haven't seen too many oldies on these videos. About time these tossers got locked up. From what I can gather the vast majority of people under 30 are denouncing the behaviour of a minority in respect of the violence and also denouncing the behaviour of the majority in respect of breaking every piece of government, medical and scientific advice on distancing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 8, 2020 12:52:03 GMT
One thing ive noticed about all these nob heads attacking the police and defacig heritage is that the vast majority are all 30 or under. Haven't seen too many oldies on these videos. About time these tossers got locked up. Indeed these sort of mindless thuggish twats 'deserve the birch'.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 8, 2020 14:39:11 GMT
One thing ive noticed about all these nob heads attacking the police and defacig heritage is that the vast majority are all 30 or under. Haven't seen too many oldies on these videos. About time these tossers got locked up. Indeed these sort of mindless thuggish twats 'deserve the birch'. Jesus sheik give it a rest heh…. No wonder people dont take you seriosuly anymore - honestly mate youre losing your credibility as a serious poster Have a think about it
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 8, 2020 15:06:39 GMT
Indeed these sort of mindless thuggish twats 'deserve the birch'. Jesus sheik give it a rest heh…. No wonder people dont take you seriosuly anymore - honestly mate youre losing your credibility as a serious poster Have a think about it I think the fact that clowns voted in a PM who can't even take the moral high ground on vandalism and threatening behaviour such is his chequered past speaks volumes and is entirely relevant. The fact you won't address the issue raised and presumably support it makes you a hypocrite of the most transparent kind.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 8, 2020 15:54:17 GMT
Jesus sheik give it a rest heh…. No wonder people dont take you seriosuly anymore - honestly mate youre losing your credibility as a serious poster Have a think about it I think the fact that clowns voted in a PM who can't even take the moral high ground on vandalism and threatening behaviour such is his chequered past speaks volumes and is entirely relevant. The fact you won't address the issue raised and presumably support it makes you a hypocrite of the most transparent kind. Oh well at least I tried. As ever I will let you have the last word as usual. Im checking out of this board so if you want to reply then no problem - I wont be reading it. To any of the chaps that had trips pending for Amsterdam, if you want to get in touch then drop me a line at jimmyboy110@hotmail.com. To mickmillslovechild - if youre ever again int he dam, let me know and I will look after you. To chuffedstokie, elystokie, bigjohnritchie - the same goes for you boys - micikmillslovechild can vouch for me. Adios amigos and 'Vis Unita Fortior'
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 8, 2020 15:57:57 GMT
I think the fact that clowns voted in a PM who can't even take the moral high ground on vandalism and threatening behaviour such is his chequered past speaks volumes and is entirely relevant. The fact you won't address the issue raised and presumably support it makes you a hypocrite of the most transparent kind. Oh well at least I tried. As ever I will let you have the last word as usual. Im checking out of this board so if you want to reply then no problem - I wont be reading it. To any of the chaps that had trips pending for Amsterdam, if you want to get in touch then drop me a line at jimmyboy110@hotmail.com. To mickmillslovechild - if youre ever again int he dam, let me know and I will look after you. To chuffedstokie, elystokie, bigjohnritchie - the same goes for you boys - micikmillslovechild can vouch for me. Adios amigos and 'Vis Unita Fortior' Bye.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 8, 2020 16:28:40 GMT
As much as I don't like standing up for smelly socialists, there's no way burning a flag or a religious text should be illegal. You might consider it to be disrespectful or offensive but neither of those are grounds for locking someone up.
Charge them for vandalism of someone else's property and make them pay for a new one and it's over and done with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 16:30:25 GMT
I can't find the article now but I read a BBC report on the trouble in London where it said something like "27 police officers injured in largely peaceful protests". From google searching trying to find the article, it seems the daily mail picked up on the absurdity / hypocrisy of that sentence and have their own article about it. That's unfortunate because I'm the opposite of a fan of that shitrag (the daily mail) so it probably hurts the point I'm making / incorrectly makes it seem like I'm being influenced by it rather than having the same thought independently, but it's a preposterous statement especially if you consider how they would word it if the same happened at other mass gathering. If 27 police officers were injured at a football match, I wonder if the BBC would write "27 police officers injured at largely peaceful local derby". I wonder what they would write if 27 were injured at a pro-Brexit gathering?
Total cunt organisation. I'm proud that I haven't paid them in years and I'm making a vow now to stop checking their news page. I'm not even being facetious when I say this - Russia Today is less biased than the BBC's news arms.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 8, 2020 16:32:18 GMT
I can't find the article now but I read a BBC report on the trouble in London where it said something like "27 police officers injured in largely peaceful protests". From google searching trying to find the article, it seems the daily mail picked up on the absurdity / hypocrisy of that sentence and have their own article about it. That's unfortunate because I'm the opposite of a fan of that shitrag (the daily mail) so it probably hurts the point I'm making / incorrectly makes it seem like I'm being influenced by it rather than having the same thought independently, but it's a preposterous statement especially if you consider how they would word it if the same happened at other mass gathering. If 27 police officers were injured at a football match, I wonder if the BBC would write "27 police officers injured at largely peaceful local derby". I wonder what they would write if 27 were injured at a pro-Brexit gathering? Total cunt organisation. I'm proud that I haven't paid them in years and I'm making a vow now to stop checking their news page. I'm not even being facetious when I say this - Russia Today is less biased than the BBC's news arms. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8398095/BBC-blasted-Black-Lives-Matter-protests-largely-peaceful-headline-despite-27-officers-injured.html
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 16:33:34 GMT
As much as I don't like standing up for smelly socialists, there's no way burning a flag or a religious text should be illegal. You might consider it to be disrespectful or offensive but neither of those are grounds for locking someone up. Charge them for vandalism of someone else's property and make them pay for a new one and it's over and done with. Agree. If someone owns a Union Jack then they have every right to burn it. It's clearly an offensive gesture to many but, if we start calling for heads on the grounds of causing offence then we lose the arguments we've been trying to make for the last however many years. People calling for severe punishments for flag burners need to really think carefully about this and not allow their emotions to cloud their rationality.
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Post by starkiller on Jun 8, 2020 16:36:43 GMT
Jesus sheik give it a rest heh…. No wonder people dont take you seriosuly anymore - honestly mate youre losing your credibility as a serious poster Have a think about it I think the fact that clowns voted in a PM who can't even take the moral high ground on vandalism and threatening behaviour such is his chequered past speaks volumes and is entirely relevant. The fact you won't address the issue raised and presumably support it makes you a hypocrite of the most transparent kind. Let's address it, then. So in order to avoid hypocrisy, I guess your view of these 'protesters', and everyone associated with them, is same as your view of the Bullingdon Club? I look forward to your condemnation of the whole thing.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jun 8, 2020 16:37:29 GMT
Indeed these sort of mindless thuggish twats 'deserve the birch'. Jesus sheik give it a rest heh…. No wonder people dont take you seriosuly anymore - honestly mate youre losing your credibility as a serious poster Have a think about it I think it's fair and reasonable to point out if a PM has no moral authority on violence and thuggery (what actually does Boris have a moral authority on?! ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) ) This is the issue with him. His track record is chock full of lies, cheating, dishonesty, racism, homophobia and various other "blots" - including being prepared to help commission illegal violence. He doesn't have the right to expect anyone else to meet standards that he himself is unprepared to meet. Reasonable point surely, even if you don't agree with it? Not worth walking out over really, but fair play, enjoy your non-Oatcake time ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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