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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 18:05:00 GMT
Appears the US is the centre of a huge set of protests against the latest murder of an unarmed black man by police.
You have to wonder what the hell it is that causes such mad institutionalised prejudice? Is it just the power trip of being an officer and subconscious racism? It's happening so often now.
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Post by bathstoke on May 28, 2020 18:18:42 GMT
Wasn’t part of the problem that they were employing ex-army back from Middle East duty, that were a bit too trigger happy...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 28, 2020 18:23:57 GMT
I always 'protest' someone being killed by attacking women in wheelchairs, robbing the latest 4k tv, and burning down McDonald's & low income housing...
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 20:41:57 GMT
I always 'protest' someone being killed by attacking women in wheelchairs, robbing the latest 4k tv, and burning down McDonald's & low income housing... I think at this point so many black people have died, and their anger is fair enough to be honest. Not condoning those specifics you mentioned, but there needs to be some serious shit done to sort this out.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 28, 2020 20:53:17 GMT
The video of the killing is on Youtube, it's frankly mind-boggling how law enforcement can act in such a way, particularly over the alleged offence in the first place, which was a fake banknote used to buy a sandwich. Seen several other CCTV vids as well which seem to rebuke the officers' story that he was resisting arrest.
Having said that, protesting is fine, arguably rioting is fine in my opinion given the context and circumstances, but looters targeting private businesses deserve to be shot dead.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 28, 2020 21:41:37 GMT
Why did they arrest him?
They Just showed a CCTV film on CNN showing him Just walking down the street and they Just stopped him....
Truly awful
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 23:50:10 GMT
Why did they arrest him? They Just showed a CCTV film on CNN showing him Just walking down the street and they Just stopped him.... Truly awful Apparently police called on him by a shopkeeper who thought he was writing a bad cheque, turned out there was nothing wrong with it.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on May 29, 2020 0:30:11 GMT
I always 'protest' someone being killed by attacking women in wheelchairs, robbing the latest 4k tv, and burning down McDonald's & low income housing... I prefer to target sports shops,that way when i'm out and about in my new Gazelles I feel the deceased is always with me.... A similar incident with a better outcome: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52759502Seems almost unthinkable that not only is institutionalized racism within the US law enforcement agencies taken almost as a given,there are many who,ostensibly at least,seek to exploit it.
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Post by Boothen on May 29, 2020 4:36:00 GMT
So rather than taking their anger out on the police, the 'community' decided to loot local businesses and burn down their own neighbourhoods. Yep, that makes perfect sense.
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Post by vokeswagen on May 29, 2020 5:43:44 GMT
So rather than taking their anger out on the police, the 'community' decided to loot local businesses and burn down their own neighbourhoods. Yep, that makes perfect sense. Which 'community', mate? The local one? The African American one?
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Post by harryburrows on May 29, 2020 7:33:24 GMT
The Americans are light years away from racial equality, just another example of police stupidity when dealing with black people . Protesters are right to take to the streets although it's happened in the past after the Rodney King beating . Trump needs to condemn this police behaviour unequivocally
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2020 7:44:14 GMT
I read yesterday that the majority of sacked cops in the US are rehired within five years...
...of course if you've founded a country on slavery and continue to have large parts of that country believing in the inherent supremacy of whites, which includes many of its institutions, allied to freely available guns and a police force which knows this and is primarily concerned with "neutralizing the threat", this is what happens.
It's not like it's an isolated incident.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 10:59:40 GMT
The police force in America are a total fuck up.......
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 29, 2020 11:53:48 GMT
Absolutely shocking. It seems that the officers involved are devoid of humanity and social awareness. Indefensible.
There is a video of the " arrest" on line.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 29, 2020 11:58:40 GMT
They apparently worked at the same club together in the past. Could there have been a grudge at play?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2020 13:31:43 GMT
Interesting reflecting on this case and the one in Central Park recently where a white lady called the cops on a black guy (apparently) purely for asking her to put her dog on a lead in line with the regulations of the park.
The interesting bit is that the woman had no hesitation calling the police apparently safe in the knowledge that the police would instantly assume the black guy was the bad guy and respond accordingly.
I think that says everything about how black people are treated in America by both the police and many whites.
Edit: just realised supersimonstainrod said the same thing...oops
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Post by harryburrows on May 29, 2020 13:37:47 GMT
Interesting reflecting on this case and the one in Central Park recently where a white lady called the cops on a black guy (apparently) purely for asking her to put her dog on a lead in line with the regulations of the park. The interesting bit is that the woman had no hesitation calling the police apparently safe in the knowledge that the police would instantly assume the black guy was the bad guy and respond accordingly. I think that says everything about how black people are treated in America by both the police and many whites. I spent some time working in the deep south 35 years ago , the racial tension was terrible. They still had black / white beaches needless to say I took my family to the wrong one and got some stick for it
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2020 13:46:02 GMT
Interesting reflecting on this case and the one in Central Park recently where a white lady called the cops on a black guy (apparently) purely for asking her to put her dog on a lead in line with the regulations of the park. The interesting bit is that the woman had no hesitation calling the police apparently safe in the knowledge that the police would instantly assume the black guy was the bad guy and respond accordingly. I think that says everything about how black people are treated in America by both the police and many whites. I spent some time working in the deep south 35 years ago , the racial tension was terrible. They still had black / white beaches needless to say I took my family to the wrong one and got some stick for it I was in Florida recently (Orlando, Miami and the Keys) and I have to say I didn't see any evidence of racism at all, although I freely accept that tourist destinations are not exactly representative. I did see how the Seminole native Americans live and it's pretty bad. The story of them being kicked off their lands and forced to live in the Everglades is appalling.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 29, 2020 13:56:20 GMT
I spent some time working in the deep south 35 years ago , the racial tension was terrible. They still had black / white beaches needless to say I took my family to the wrong one and got some stick for it I was in Florida recently (Orlando, Miami and the Keys) and I have to say I didn't see any evidence of racism at all, although I freely accept that tourist destinations are not exactly representative. I did see how the Seminole native Americans live and it's pretty bad. The story of them being kicked off their lands and forced to live in the Everglades is appalling. I was in Memphis three years ago and you could feel the racial tensions and undertones just below the surface. It was during the time when the " traditional" statues were being destroyed. I think that this is going to be a big one that isn't going away. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3664615693567110&id=114737265221655www.facebook.com/wreg3/videos/245083526589664//
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Post by Timmypotter on May 29, 2020 14:15:43 GMT
re. the riots, there are a few interesting posts on social media of a masked white chap with a gas mask and umbrella (so as to make it very hard to identify him) who walked past a row of shops smashing windows with a hammer. There's a suggestion that this guy is a current or former police officer. Obviously it's just random posts from twitter and facebook, but who would really be surprised if the US police incited a riot to give them an excuse to crack a few heads and muddy the waters.
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Post by Timmypotter on May 29, 2020 14:29:44 GMT
As a counterpoint to this story, can you imagine this interaction in the US.
Obviously we have had and still have our own racist imbeciles in the UK police force, and the wisdom of these lads breaking lockdown has to be questioned. But surely we're doing something right that they're not doing in the US, that young black men feel they can have a laugh with the police and don't need to either cower or fight.
Maybe I'm being unfair and we don't see examples of good community policing in the US as it's not a good story. But per capita your chances of dying at the hands of the police as a black person must be massively greater in the US than here.
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Post by harryburrows on May 29, 2020 14:54:36 GMT
I spent some time working in the deep south 35 years ago , the racial tension was terrible. They still had black / white beaches needless to say I took my family to the wrong one and got some stick for it I was in Florida recently (Orlando, Miami and the Keys) and I have to say I didn't see any evidence of racism at all, although I freely accept that tourist destinations are not exactly representative. I did see how the Seminole native Americans live and it's pretty bad. The story of them being kicked off their lands and forced to live in the Everglades is appalling. I was in Orlando last Christmas and you are correct you get Disney, drive along the gulf coast to Alabama and Mississippi it's another world mate .
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2020 17:52:37 GMT
I was in Florida recently (Orlando, Miami and the Keys) and I have to say I didn't see any evidence of racism at all, although I freely accept that tourist destinations are not exactly representative. I did see how the Seminole native Americans live and it's pretty bad. The story of them being kicked off their lands and forced to live in the Everglades is appalling. I was in Orlando last Christmas and you are correct you get Disney, drive along the gulf coast to Alabama and Mississippi it's another world mate . I'm sure you're right. I'd like to see it to be honest. The closest I got to seeing any potential friction was in Miami Beach (which is a city in its own right, not just a beach!) and walking along Ocean Drive it was Spring Break so there were thousands of college kids, mostly black, quite openly partying and smoking the 'longer-handled cigarettes' in front of half a dozen cop cars parked on the grass verge just keeping an eye on things, not really interfering provided it stayed good-natured which it did. Seemed like quite a sensible approach not to provoke things - probably not so 'enlightened' in other parts of the States...
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Post by vokeswagen on May 29, 2020 21:07:07 GMT
This is an absolute shower of shit. I hope justice is done - it's hard to imagine any other outcome than Guilty, having seen the video but let's see.
The arrest of the journalist today as well.... Fuck me.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 30, 2020 7:03:11 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on May 30, 2020 9:15:15 GMT
The American police so seem to have a pack mentality with some people they arrest and appear to have little knowledge of positional asphyxia or signs of ABD/excited delirium. I’m not saying our police are beyond going over the top on occasion, but they have better levels of restraint and limit the numbers actually piling in on an arrested person. Whether that is cultural, better trained or just that there aren’t that many, but I would seriously think twice about kicking off with a US police officer as they are seemingly incapable of showing restraint..
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:45:56 GMT
The American police so seem to have a pack mentality with some people they arrest and appear to have little knowledge of positional asphyxia or signs of ABD/excited delirium. I’m not saying our police are beyond going over the top on occasion, but they have better levels of restraint and limit the numbers actually piling in on an arrested person. Whether that is cultural, better trained or just that there aren’t that many, but I would seriously think twice about kicking off with a US police officer as they are seemingly incapable of showing restraint.. You’d be fine if you’re white and were holding a confederate flag. You can wave an AK-47 around at a protest then and the police stand back in an orderly fashion.....
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 30, 2020 10:55:09 GMT
Turns out Floyd was a pornstar too.
Irrelevant, but mildly interesting.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 30, 2020 11:11:09 GMT
To me it looks like cause of death was murder.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 30, 2020 12:55:45 GMT
To me it looks like cause of death was murder. And me, and that's what he is charged with....but it isn't a foregone conclusion that he would be found guilty of murder at trial...if the death wasn't asphyxiation.....which could lead to ongoing unrest.
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