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Post by prudhoe on May 15, 2020 20:43:02 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition.
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Post by newsteadst3 on May 15, 2020 20:50:52 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. All I can remember after that tournament finished was Football became popular and basically how it was marketed, hence why you were told by the media what a great tournament it was. Personally I hated it and Gazza was terrible apart from that goal v Scotland and a 7/10 performance v Holland from him and that was it.
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Post by prudhoe on May 15, 2020 22:10:19 GMT
Watching the Switzerland v Holland game now. Some bloke called Peter Hoekstra having a fantastic game. Wonder whatever became of him?
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Post by RF10 on May 15, 2020 22:17:28 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. All I can remember after that tournament finished was Football became popular and basically how it was marketed, hence why you were told by the media what a great tournament it was. Personally I hated it and Gazza was terrible apart from that goal v Scotland and a 7/10 performance v Holland from him and that was it. My first proper memory of watching England. I thought it was great, not sure if your referring to the tournament as a whole or England performances, but having lost in Semi Finals and most likely favourites for final isn't a bad run.
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Post by lordb on May 15, 2020 22:21:17 GMT
There were small crowds because instead of letting clubs sell the tickets,which would have seen packed stadiums, the FA let the likes of Ticketmaster do it Wankers. It's why I don't want England to get the World Cup.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 15, 2020 23:19:50 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. England 🏴 the number one football loving country? What’s that based on?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 0:19:50 GMT
There were small crowds because instead of Ketty clubs sell the tickets,which would have seen packed stadiums, the FA let the likes of Ticketmaster do it Wankers. It's why I don't want England to get the World Cup. Said the same when they bid The allocation process was nonsense. They totally screwed up. I was at France v C Republic semi and 7000 empty seats It wasn't a great tournament. Wasn't a great German side and they struggled to beat a Czech side ravaged by suspensions. The semi between Czech Republic and France was abysmal quality. People were actually leaving in ET. I think England v Holland is why so many remember it with fondness as far as England are concerned and the Spain game rarely mentioned. If those decisions v Spain had gone against England in another country there would have been outrage amongst England fans. They probably should have won it but watching the semi v Germany, Gascoigne shouldn't have been on the pitch in ET and couldn't see anything wrong with Germany's Golden Goal. Home teams always get decisions to be fair but England got more than their fair share.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 16, 2020 8:32:51 GMT
There were small crowds because instead of Ketty clubs sell the tickets,which would have seen packed stadiums, the FA let the likes of Ticketmaster do it Wankers. It's why I don't want England to get the World Cup. Said the same when they bid The allocation process was nonsense. They totally screwed up. I was at France v C Republic semi and 7000 empty seats It wasn't a great tournament. Wasn't a great German side and they struggled to beat a Czech side ravaged by suspensions. The semi between Czech Republic and France was abysmal quality. People were actually leaving in ET. I think England v Holland is why so many remember it with fondness as far as England are concerned and the Spain game rarely mentioned. If those decisions v Spain had gone against England in another country there would have been outrage amongst England fans. They probably should have won it but watching the semi v Germany, Gascoigne shouldn't have been on the pitch in ET and couldn't see anything wrong with Germany's Golden Goal. Home teams always get decisions to be fair but England got more than their fair share. If people were leaving during extra time of Czech Republic v France 🇫🇷 they might have just been getting where they wanted to be for the England 🏴 v Germany 🇩🇪 game. But I agree it was a dire game.
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Post by thfc67 on May 16, 2020 9:08:59 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but most of the matches were not played in "half empty stadiums". Also, the attendance for the Bulgaria v Romania at St James's Park was 19,000 not "just over 10000", which was the lowest attendance of the whole tournament. "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." In Group C at Old Trafford (capacity 55,000): Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. There were plenty of other matched where the attendances was above 75%. This is from Wikipedea: "..although not all games were sold out, the tournament holds the European Championship's second-highest aggregate attendance (1,276,000) and average per game (41,158) for the 16-team format,surpassed only in 2012."
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2020 9:15:39 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but most of the matches were not played in "half empty stadiums". Also, the attendance for the Bulgaria v Romania at St James's Park was 19,000 not "just over 10000", which was the lowest attendance of the whole tournament. "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." In Group C at Old Trafford (capacity 55,000): Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. There were plenty of other matched where the attendances was above 75%. This is from Wikipedea: "..although not all games were sold out, the tournament holds the European Championship's second-highest aggregate attendance (1,276,000) and average per game (41,158) for the 16-team format,surpassed only in 2012." Those were the official attendance, i.e. tickets sold. There absolutely were vast swathes of empty seats everywhere It was bollocks
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Post by newsteadst3 on May 16, 2020 9:38:41 GMT
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but most of the matches were not played in "half empty stadiums". Also, the attendance for the Bulgaria v Romania at St James's Park was 19,000 not "just over 10000", which was the lowest attendance of the whole tournament. "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." In Group C at Old Trafford (capacity 55,000): Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. There were plenty of other matched where the attendances was above 75%. This is from Wikipedea: "..although not all games were sold out, the tournament holds the European Championship's second-highest aggregate attendance (1,276,000) and average per game (41,158) for the 16-team format,surpassed only in 2012." Those were the official attendance, i.e. tickets sold. There absolutely were vast swathes of empty seats everywhere It was bollocks The whole tournament was the beginning of the end for football as we knew and had enjoyed and the start of the commercial stuff such as that three lions song. The best bit was the no nonsense looking Stoke fan in that broxap shirt celebrating, always remember that bit
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Post by JoeinOz on May 16, 2020 12:59:17 GMT
Those were the official attendance, i.e. tickets sold. There absolutely were vast swathes of empty seats everywhere It was bollocks The whole tournament was the beginning of the end for football as we knew and had enjoyed and the start of the commercial stuff such as that three lions song. The best bit was the no nonsense looking Stoke fan in that broxap shirt celebrating, always remember that bit The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970.
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May 16, 2020 13:22:47 GMT
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Post by newsteadst3 on May 16, 2020 13:22:47 GMT
The whole tournament was the beginning of the end for football as we knew and had enjoyed and the start of the commercial stuff such as that three lions song. The best bit was the no nonsense looking Stoke fan in that broxap shirt celebrating, always remember that bit The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Three Lion's was a platinum selling single if I remember correctly. Start of the football bandwagon, especially for the last pick types
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Post by JoeinOz on May 16, 2020 13:30:39 GMT
The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Three Lion's was a platinum selling single if I remember correctly. Start of the football bandwagon, especially for the last pick types What’s wrong with a platinum selling single? World in motion got to no. 1. I think back home did too.
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Post by AlliG on May 16, 2020 13:31:58 GMT
The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Three Lion's was a platinum selling single if I remember correctly. Start of the football bandwagon, especially for the last pick types Back Home was a Number One single in 1970 (Still remember squirming watching Banksie and his mates miming along on Top of the Pops) I remember singing this one on the school playground in 1966.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 16, 2020 13:42:45 GMT
The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Three Lion's was a platinum selling single if I remember correctly. Start of the football bandwagon, especially for the last pick types What's a last pick type?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 14:12:58 GMT
Said the same when they bid The allocation process was nonsense. They totally screwed up. I was at France v C Republic semi and 7000 empty seats It wasn't a great tournament. Wasn't a great German side and they struggled to beat a Czech side ravaged by suspensions. The semi between Czech Republic and France was abysmal quality. People were actually leaving in ET. I think England v Holland is why so many remember it with fondness as far as England are concerned and the Spain game rarely mentioned. If those decisions v Spain had gone against England in another country there would have been outrage amongst England fans. They probably should have won it but watching the semi v Germany, Gascoigne shouldn't have been on the pitch in ET and couldn't see anything wrong with Germany's Golden Goal. Home teams always get decisions to be fair but England got more than their fair share. If people were leaving during extra time of Czech Republic v France 🇫🇷 they might have just been getting where they wanted to be for the England 🏴 v Germany 🇩🇪 game. But I agree it was a dire game. There was that as was an hour or so later but was pretty awful. Chap with me wanted to leave but personally thought had come all that way I may as well stay for penalties. He was Scottish for the record
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May 16, 2020 14:16:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 14:16:07 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. England 🏴 the number one football loving country? What’s that based on? I would class this as a “football loving nation” although there are no clear rules as to what defines a football loving nation. I do think it’s easy to forget sometimes that the overwhelming majority of people in this country have absolutely 0 interest. If anything it’s people like us who are on the fringe. Whereas I’m sure there are some countries where admitting you don’t like football is only one step below admitting you fancy kids.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 14:19:47 GMT
The whole tournament was the beginning of the end for football as we knew and had enjoyed and the start of the commercial stuff such as that three lions song. The best bit was the no nonsense looking Stoke fan in that broxap shirt celebrating, always remember that bit The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Lonnie Donegan sang the official anthem in 1966
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Post by thfc67 on May 16, 2020 15:21:11 GMT
The three lions song wasn’t the start of anything. The first World Cup song was in 1970. Lonnie Donegan sang the official anthem in 1966 I've heard worse.
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Post by thfc67 on May 16, 2020 15:33:12 GMT
Lonnie Donegan sang the official anthem in 1966 I've heard worse. It get's better (or worse?) This is the first World Cup song (officially) from the 1962 World Cup held in Chile:
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Post by silsdenstokie on May 16, 2020 15:36:03 GMT
World in Motion was a far better song than 3 Lions IMO
England were poor against the Swiss and first half against Scotland. Sublime against Holland, average and fortunate against Spain, then most unlucky against the Germans. That said, I reckon we would have beaten the czechs in the final, which made the semifinal loss all the worse, certainly as bad as 1990
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May 16, 2020 16:16:45 GMT
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Post by prudhoe on May 16, 2020 16:16:45 GMT
Since ITV have been showing the whole of Euro 96 all week i've been watching all the matches so far. I was only 14 at the time of Euro 96 but i thought i had good memory of it. We all remember those special England matches infront of a packed Wembley. That goal from Gazza. That penalty save by Seaman. That match against Holland. That miss from Southgate. So like most England fans i've alway remembered Euro 96 as one of the best tournaments ever. Except what i'm remembering is just England. I realise now i'd remembered nothing about the other matches. The vast majority of the group games i've seen so far are dull a dishwater. And where were the crowds? Most of the matches so far are being played in half emtpy stadiums. Just watched Bulgaria v Romania at St James' Park and there was just over 10000 there! How on earth can a tournament played in the number 1 football loving country have so many half empty stadiums? The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park. So that wonderful Euro 96 we all remember, no one bothered to turn up for it! Can anyone remember why the crowds were so low. Were the ticket prices ridiculous or something? Because i just cant understand why the people of football loving cities like Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Nottingham, etc didn't turn out to watch a major international tournament taking place in their grounds. I'd like to think that if there was another Euro's or World Cup in England and some matches were played at the Bet365 we'd pack the place out. Even if it was the crappest teams in the competition. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but most of the matches were not played in "half empty stadiums". Also, the attendance for the Bulgaria v Romania at St James's Park was 19,000 not "just over 10000", which was the lowest attendance of the whole tournament. "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." In Group C at Old Trafford (capacity 55,000): Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. There were plenty of other matched where the attendances was above 75%. This is from Wikipedea: "..although not all games were sold out, the tournament holds the European Championship's second-highest aggregate attendance (1,276,000) and average per game (41,158) for the 16-team format,surpassed only in 2012." I'm getting my information from my eyes. Seeing lots of empty seats everywhere I look. Whole stands are nearly empty at some games. And Kevin Keegan said there was just over 10000 at St James' during his commentary. So blame him if that figure wasn't accurate.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 16:32:50 GMT
The semi at OT were Czech fans given free tickets as no one wanted them. Was at Germany v Croatia and to be fair a real good crowd but many were English supporting Croatia
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 16:35:00 GMT
Until now I thought World Cup Willie was something I caught off a Brazilian bird in Genoa the night Ireland beat Romania.
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Post by thfc67 on May 16, 2020 16:36:39 GMT
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but most of the matches were not played in "half empty stadiums". Also, the attendance for the Bulgaria v Romania at St James's Park was 19,000 not "just over 10000", which was the lowest attendance of the whole tournament. "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." In Group C at Old Trafford (capacity 55,000): Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. There were plenty of other matched where the attendances was above 75%. This is from Wikipedea: "..although not all games were sold out, the tournament holds the European Championship's second-highest aggregate attendance (1,276,000) and average per game (41,158) for the 16-team format,surpassed only in 2012." I'm getting my information from my eyes. Seeing lots of empty seats everywhere I look. Whole stands are nearly empty at some games. And Kevin Keegan said there was just over 10000 at St James' during his commentary. So blame him if that figure wasn't accurate. Look, I'm not arguing with you, you may be right, and I wrong. But it was 24 years ago. You say you're getting your "information from your eyes" and that "The only match apart from England so far that had anywhere near a full stadium was Scotland v Holland at Villa Park." I stated two matches that were near capacity: Russia v Germany 50,760, Italy v Germany 53,740. Look at the following, paying attention to the crowds: As for Kevin Keegan... great footballer.
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Post by silsdenstokie on May 17, 2020 18:34:00 GMT
England v Scotland full match currently being shown on itv4
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Post by riverman on May 17, 2020 19:04:36 GMT
Was in the terrace penkhull watching this. Never known a pub mental like it when Gazza served Hendry his arse on a plate and slotted home. Absolute mayhem!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 19:09:43 GMT
Was in the terrace penkhull watching this. Never known a pub mental like it when Gazza served Hendry his arse on a plate and slotted home. Absolute mayhem! I watched it in a pub in Leeds. Was going to a game at Elland Rd, maybe Spain v Bulgaria. Odd thing was , a bloke in a Leeds shirt was calling McAllister ever name under the sun when he was stepping up/and missed the pen. Wasn't he captain of Leeds at the time? I think he did leave a few weeks later but he wasn't to know that. I understand him wanting him to miss but calling him a c$nt etc a bit odd
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 17, 2020 19:13:55 GMT
Redknapp has changed the game
On a separate note this was the first football game I ever remember watching.
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