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Post by flea79 on Nov 18, 2024 10:28:09 GMT
Reading into the Starmer rumour, it appears to allege that Starmer defended the Southport suspects' father in court when he was was accused of a serious crime (war crimes if I remember rightly) in Rwanda. A slight flaw in the rumour seems to be that the Rwandan person Starmer did defend was a woman. So the right-wing fantasists are going to have to review their opinion on transgender issues to really push this one to the fore. also hearing this there is definitely a reason that so much was witheld from the public about the whole thing |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 10:49:37 GMT
Ah so you're terrified to post what you claim to know. And no I don't know, which is why I asked you. The father of the piece of shit that allegedly murdered those three girls is allegedly wanted in connection with the Rwandan genocide. He fled here to claim refugee status and a certain human rights QC at the time may or may not be involved in his gaining such status. A fact that could be very uncomfortable if it were to see the light of day. Strange how, for the first time ever, MPs have been banned from using parliamentary privilege to ask certain questions by a Labour Speaker of the house. If the rumours are indeed true some heavy shit will hit the fan. I'd be interested to know which tribe the refugee who committed genocide belonged to. The USA with the assistance of Uganda supported the minority Tutsi tribe (who historically have oppressed the Hutus for decades) overthrowing the Hutus. Since then the same puppet has ran the country and even won the last election with 99% of the vote despite being from a tribe only making up 15% of the population. I'd be very surprised if we offered refuge to a Hutu here given our uncontested supported for the Tutsi minority in Rwanda. |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 10:55:52 GMT
Around 43 mins or so farage makes some frustratingly vague comments on the matter, stating it’s “one of the biggest cover ups of our lives”. He says no such thing He does say it in the opening sequence but there is no context of what he is talking about At about 43 mins he talks about Alison Pearson being visited by the Old Bill on Remembrance Sunday about a Tweet, unspecified about what it was, exactly a year previously when Starmer was Leader of the Opposition and nobody knew of the tragic events that were about to unfold in Stockport. I haven't seen the Tweet from Pearson but it's not that difficult to work out that she linked a picture of two smiling Cops with a couple of others waving a Palestinian Flag Did the Old Bill overstep the Mark, assuredly, tell that to people that are regularly profiled for Stop and Search. What are you or what are you suggesting Farage is suggesting here? Alison Pearson did make a racist tweet. The tweet was a bunch of Pakistani men standing next to police in Manchester. Because they were brown Alsion called them jew haters.  If she had have tweeted that in July it may have passed Starmers threshold for inflamming tensions and resulted in an arrest and prison sentence. It's startling she still has her Job to be honest with you. I'm sure if she alleged a group of Jewish people taking their pictured with police were islamaphobic Palestine haters it wouldn't have been brushed under the carpet. |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 12:05:15 GMT
Get this fraud out.
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 12:30:36 GMT
This labour party is maybe the most authoritarian in history. This is why I say 2 cheeks of the same arse. When it comes to voting they all do their jobs in the pantomime and play their roles: votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1313When it comes to matching your words with actions you soon realise they only vote against things for their image and that they're actually much closer alligned with the tories than they potray. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2024 13:00:40 GMT
He says no such thing He does say it in the opening sequence but there is no context of what he is talking about At about 43 mins he talks about Alison Pearson being visited by the Old Bill on Remembrance Sunday about a Tweet, unspecified about what it was, exactly a year previously when Starmer was Leader of the Opposition and nobody knew of the tragic events that were about to unfold in Stockport. I haven't seen the Tweet from Pearson but it's not that difficult to work out that she linked a picture of two smiling Cops with a couple of others waving a Palestinian Flag Did the Old Bill overstep the Mark, assuredly, tell that to people that are regularly profiled for Stop and Search. What are you or what are you suggesting Farage is suggesting here? Ok so he starts talking about it on 43:12 and says, starting at 44:07 “we are witnessing one of the biggest cover ups we’ve ever seen in our lives and I won’t say more than that”. Next time I’ll try to be more precise with my timestamps and won’t paraphrase as clearly wannabe your time is far too precious to spend 60 seconds listening to a video before spending many minutes going into a diatribe. I've heard things ahout Nigel Farage that would make your ears bleed - really disgusting stuff that would see him in very hot water on both sides of the Atlantic. Can't say more though, so I'll just leave it at that. We'll have to wait and see. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 18, 2024 13:48:15 GMT
Ok so he starts talking about it on 43:12 and says, starting at 44:07 “we are witnessing one of the biggest cover ups we’ve ever seen in our lives and I won’t say more than that”. Next time I’ll try to be more precise with my timestamps and won’t paraphrase as clearly wannabe your time is far too precious to spend 60 seconds listening to a video before spending many minutes going into a diatribe. I've heard things ahout Nigel Farage that would make your ears bleed - really disgusting stuff that would see him in very hot water on both sides of the Atlantic. Can't say more though, so I'll just leave it at that. We'll have to wait and see. His ex- Tutor and schoolmates say the same thing. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2024 14:33:27 GMT
Ok so he starts talking about it on 43:12 and says, starting at 44:07 “we are witnessing one of the biggest cover ups we’ve ever seen in our lives and I won’t say more than that”. Next time I’ll try to be more precise with my timestamps and won’t paraphrase as clearly wannabe your time is far too precious to spend 60 seconds listening to a video before spending many minutes going into a diatribe. I've heard things ahout Nigel Farage that would make your ears bleed - really disgusting stuff that would see him in very hot water on both sides of the Atlantic. Can't say more though, so I'll just leave it at that. We'll have to wait and see. It's amazing how people continue to fall for it, each and every time ... 🤦♂️ |
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Nov 18, 2024 14:50:34 GMT
I've heard things ahout Nigel Farage that would make your ears bleed - really disgusting stuff that would see him in very hot water on both sides of the Atlantic. Can't say more though, so I'll just leave it at that. We'll have to wait and see. It's amazing how people continue to fall for it, each and every time ... 🤦♂️ Are you accusing me of falling for something? Someone has posted the rumours circulating, and I’ve responded with a video of farage making vague comments about an apparently bombshell cover up. I haven’t said I therefore believe the social media rumours; but I am inclined to believe that something is up even if it’s not the rumoured story exactly. There’s rarely smoke without fire. You’ll have to forgive me for suspecting farage isn’t just trolling and might actually know a bit more than a cartel of professional-posters on the subforum of a middling sized football club’s supporters’ forum. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 18, 2024 15:13:46 GMT
He says no such thing He does say it in the opening sequence but there is no context of what he is talking about At about 43 mins he talks about Alison Pearson being visited by the Old Bill on Remembrance Sunday about a Tweet, unspecified about what it was, exactly a year previously when Starmer was Leader of the Opposition and nobody knew of the tragic events that were about to unfold in Stockport. I haven't seen the Tweet from Pearson but it's not that difficult to work out that she linked a picture of two smiling Cops with a couple of others waving a Palestinian Flag Did the Old Bill overstep the Mark, assuredly, tell that to people that are regularly profiled for Stop and Search. What are you or what are you suggesting Farage is suggesting here? It’s certainly hit social media which is never a good thing if there’s any doubt over its legitimacy or not having the full picture as the Manchester airport reports showed. Only time will tell as to whether there’s any truth to what’s been suggested. All I would say is that I can’t see Starmer making the length of his tenure at this rate. It’s clear he’s incredibly unpopular after some of the decisions he’s made and there’s a lot of anger directed towards him currently. He certainly needs a good start to 2025. If there’s anything that comes out in respect to him having any accountability over Southport he’s toast. People don't like Politicians, who knew In the most recent YouGov Poll published a few days ago The most popular was Farage with 30% liking him and 61% disliking him. Starmer was next most popular with 28% liking him and 61% disliking. The rest of the Leaders were even less popular I.e. Kemi, Ed Davey etc but were less unpopular, I suspect because a lot of people don't know them. Politicians are like Marmite you either love or hate yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50925-how-does-kemi-badenoch-compare-to-other-party-leadersThe biggest word you used in your post is IF |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2024 16:13:48 GMT
It's amazing how people continue to fall for it, each and every time ... 🤦♂️ Are you accusing me of falling for something? Someone has posted the rumours circulating, and I’ve responded with a video of farage making vague comments about an apparently bombshell cover up. I haven’t said I therefore believe the social media rumours; but I am inclined to believe that something is up even if it’s not the rumoured story exactly. There’s rarely smoke without fire. You’ll have to forgive me for suspecting farage isn’t just trolling and might actually know a bit more than a cartel of professional-posters on the subforum of a middling sized football club’s supporters’ forum. Why do you think Farage's comments are, as you correctly suggest, deliberately vague? He's not acting like a responsible leader of a political party but rather like an uncouth stirrer of shit, it's his MO, it's what he DOES. And no, I wasn't directing my comment directly at you but rather at the fact that the whole Internet is now awash with rumour based around his pathetic comments. What Rip Roaring Potter was doing, was demonstrating just how easy it is, to do what Farage has done. How about Farage shows some respect for the poor kids who lost their lives, rather than weaponising their deaths (again), by casting veiled aspersions that he knows will be seized upon and used to create unfounded scandal. He's a nasty, nasty piece of work and yet people sadly seem to fall for it every time. |
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Nov 18, 2024 16:37:54 GMT
Are you accusing me of falling for something? Someone has posted the rumours circulating, and I’ve responded with a video of farage making vague comments about an apparently bombshell cover up. I haven’t said I therefore believe the social media rumours; but I am inclined to believe that something is up even if it’s not the rumoured story exactly. There’s rarely smoke without fire. You’ll have to forgive me for suspecting farage isn’t just trolling and might actually know a bit more than a cartel of professional-posters on the subforum of a middling sized football club’s supporters’ forum. Why do you think Farage's comments are, as you correctly suggest, deliberately vague? He's not acting like a responsible leader of a political party but rather like an uncouth stirrer of shit, it's his MO, it's what he DOES. And no, I wasn't directing my comment directly at you but rather at the fact that the whole Internet is now awash with rumour based around his pathetic comments. What Rip Roaring Potter was doing, was demonstrating just how easy it is, to do what Farage has done. How about Farage shows some respect for the poor kids who lost their lives, rather than weaponising their deaths (again), by casting veiled aspersions that he knows will be seized upon and used to create unfounded scandal. He's a nasty, nasty piece of work and yet people sadly seem to fall for it every time. We'll see. If down the line his comments come to fuckall, I'll join you in your view of him. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2024 16:51:58 GMT
Why do you think Farage's comments are, as you correctly suggest, deliberately vague? He's not acting like a responsible leader of a political party but rather like an uncouth stirrer of shit, it's his MO, it's what he DOES. And no, I wasn't directing my comment directly at you but rather at the fact that the whole Internet is now awash with rumour based around his pathetic comments. What Rip Roaring Potter was doing, was demonstrating just how easy it is, to do what Farage has done. How about Farage shows some respect for the poor kids who lost their lives, rather than weaponising their deaths (again), by casting veiled aspersions that he knows will be seized upon and used to create unfounded scandal. He's a nasty, nasty piece of work and yet people sadly seem to fall for it every time. We'll see. If down the line his comments come to fuckall, I'll join you in your view of him. That's the whole point mate, it doesn't matter WHAT his comments ultimately come to because he's been deliberately vague about what he's said. WHATEVER comes to light, is almost irrelevant now because the damage has already been done. I don't want to really go into what has been implied but genuinely, even the worst version of what has been suggested, is in my opinion, not anything like as bad as what Farage is making out. It's like he's calculated what will give him the maximum amount of clout, implying shit now or making a fuss once the truth is actually out there and he's gone for the first option. And that's what I mean by him weaponising the deaths of the poor children and showing no respect for their families. It absolutely stinks. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2024 18:18:37 GMT
We'll see. If down the line his comments come to fuckall, I'll join you in your view of him. That's the whole point mate, it doesn't matter WHAT his comments ultimately come to because he's been deliberately vague about what he's said. WHATEVER comes to light, is almost irrelevant now because the damage has already been done. I don't want to really go into what has been implied but genuinely, even the worst version of what has been suggested, is in my opinion, not anything like as bad as what Farage is making out. It's like he's calculated what will give him the maximum amount of clout, implying shit now or making a fuss once the truth is actually out there and he's gone for the first option. And that's what I mean by him weaponising the deaths of the poor children and showing no respect for their families. It absolutely stinks. Farage’s behaviour is bordering on deplorable But What really stinks is the silence there’s nothing for anyone to worry about if everything is above board Except for the murdering fuck head So out with the silence tell the public the truth stop hiding behind the law and forthcoming trial There’s nothing that will stop the arsehole from being found guilty Unless of course there is something to hide Create a wall of silence and you create a space for people to fill from their own prospective |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2024 19:47:26 GMT
That's the whole point mate, it doesn't matter WHAT his comments ultimately come to because he's been deliberately vague about what he's said. WHATEVER comes to light, is almost irrelevant now because the damage has already been done. I don't want to really go into what has been implied but genuinely, even the worst version of what has been suggested, is in my opinion, not anything like as bad as what Farage is making out. It's like he's calculated what will give him the maximum amount of clout, implying shit now or making a fuss once the truth is actually out there and he's gone for the first option. And that's what I mean by him weaponising the deaths of the poor children and showing no respect for their families. It absolutely stinks. Farage’s behaviour is bordering on deplorable But What really stinks is the silence there’s nothing for anyone to worry about if everything is above board Except for the murdering fuck head So out with the silence tell the public the truth stop hiding behind the law and forthcoming trial There’s nothing that will stop the arsehole from being found guilty Unless of course there is something to hide Create a wall of silence and you create a space for people to fill from their own prospective There are a lot of things that could stop the arsehole being found guilty, including drip feeding information to the public to ensure he doesn't get a fair trial. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 18, 2024 21:20:54 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 18, 2024 23:03:36 GMT
Sounds perfect for high office in USA. |
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Post by phileetin on Nov 19, 2024 15:24:24 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 19, 2024 16:11:22 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 19, 2024 16:16:52 GMT
Waiting for the benefits of trickle down economics.....  |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 19, 2024 16:18:06 GMT
Waiting for the benefits of trickle down economics..... He's got his ticket to Davos, doesn't give a fuck now. Those words were just a means to a personal end. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 19, 2024 16:57:21 GMT
I don't think Starmer is saying anything different today than what he said in this clip 4 months ago before the GE.... except of course for the editing out of the part where he said Trickle Down Economics is Bollocks which he said we had got under the Conservatives |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 20, 2024 16:55:04 GMT
It gets worse by the day🙄
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2024 18:30:09 GMT
It gets worse by the day🙄 He’s got to increase foreign aid somehow |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 20, 2024 19:06:01 GMT
It gets worse by the day🙄 He’s got to increase foreign aid somehow More hyperbolic nonsense without any substance In the final year of the last Labour Government the Defense Budget was £57Bn in the subsequent 14 years of Conservative Government they never matched that number. Last year the Defense Budget was £54.2Bn and in last months Budget Reeves increased that by £2.9Bn to £57.1Bn a new record Defense Budget The items being scrapped are past their sell by date including 40 year old Drones. The decommissioning will save about £500M which can obviously be spent more productively On taking Office Labour commissioned a defense review which is long overdue and I'd be surprised if gaps aren't identified but their is a specific place to look for the reason for that.  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2024 19:07:46 GMT
He’s got to increase foreign aid somehow More hyperbolic nonsense without any substance In the final year of the last Labour Government the Defense Budget was £57Bn in the subsequent 14 years of Conservative Government they never matched that number. Last year the Defense Budget was £54.2Bn and in last months Budget Reeves increased that by £2.9Bn to £57.1Bn a new record Defense Budget The items being scrapped are past their sell by date including 40 year old Drones. The decommissioning will save about £500M which can obviously be spent more productively On taking Office Labour commissioned a defense review which is long overdue and I'd be surprised if gaps aren't identified but their is a specific place to look for the reason for that. View AttachmentI don’t think my post was hyperbolic nonsense tbh |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 20, 2024 19:15:42 GMT
More hyperbolic nonsense without any substance In the final year of the last Labour Government the Defense Budget was £57Bn in the subsequent 14 years of Conservative Government they never matched that number. Last year the Defense Budget was £54.2Bn and in last months Budget Reeves increased that by £2.9Bn to £57.1Bn a new record Defense Budget The items being scrapped are past their sell by date including 40 year old Drones. The decommissioning will save about £500M which can obviously be spent more productively On taking Office Labour commissioned a defense review which is long overdue and I'd be surprised if gaps aren't identified but their is a specific place to look for the reason for that. View AttachmentI don’t think my post was hyperbolic nonsense tbh I was concentrating on the Defense Budget which is clearly nonsense But if you want to include Overseas Aid Budget Reeves cut that in October so take you pick which is the biggest load of nonsense www.bond.org.uk/news/2024/10/more-cuts-to-the-uk-aid-budget-under-the-new-governments-first-autumn-budget/ |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 20, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Nov 20, 2024 20:08:12 GMT
More hyperbolic nonsense without any substance In the final year of the last Labour Government the Defense Budget was £57Bn in the subsequent 14 years of Conservative Government they never matched that number. Last year the Defense Budget was £54.2Bn and in last months Budget Reeves increased that by £2.9Bn to £57.1Bn a new record Defense Budget The items being scrapped are past their sell by date including 40 year old Drones. The decommissioning will save about £500M which can obviously be spent more productively On taking Office Labour commissioned a defense review which is long overdue and I'd be surprised if gaps aren't identified but their is a specific place to look for the reason for that. View AttachmentI don’t think my post was hyperbolic nonsense tbh Think he was on about the Sam Fender song mate. |
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Post by marwood on Nov 20, 2024 20:16:30 GMT
Reeves - Haircut like a Lego Minifigure |
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