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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 2, 2024 16:14:49 GMT
Is that article not about Jas Athwal being suspended for allegations of sexual abuse? And then according to Labour insiders he was reinstated by Starmer against the recommendation of an independent legal adviser on sexual abuse and harassment. Given what we now know about how he treats his tenants too. I think this just further shows its a particular candidate problem rather than a constituency problem. This is the same constituency where at the last nomination for Labour MP: - It was identified that a large number of Labour members registered at addresses had completely different names as to what was on the electoral register. - They also became aware that some of the properties were rentals owned by Redbridge councillors. Some of the members identified during this process had apparently applied for postal or electronic votes. - When they canvassed said address, they were told by tenants that the members listed had moved out but that someone else collected their post. - Another constituency where the outcomes of the vote in the dodgy anonyvoter system, provided by Labour donors without any tendering process, didn't reflect the feelings of the people out canvassing. So yeah this appears more to be a candidate/factional issue rather than a constituency one. Unless of course you believe those with sexual allegations hanging over them are the highest quality candidates and shouldn't be suspended (which would go against your position on suspensions of conservstive mos and candidates for the same). The other candidates biggest crime was standing on a picket line with workers which was enough to lose a whip. In another life he'd have been better off renting out mould and ant infested homes to his constituents as that's quite clearly not considered as bad a crime in two tier keirs mind. Do you have any evidence your libellous allegation that it was Starmer that reinstated Athwal? Even Squakbox didn't allege that but say it was Starmer led Labour Party NEC I think you're also on shaky ground conflating someone cleared of sexual allegations and being a Shit Landlord as testament to their overall character If you can't see that a Corbynsceptic Candidate favourite to win selection was suspended one month before 2019 Election for allegations that he was cleared of 9 months later. Or that the Corbyn Candidate was deselected for the next Election isn't Dirty Politics from both wings of the Labour Party you are being blinded by your bias. Do you think a slum landlord of unregistered properties can be of good character? Do you think a slum landlord should hold public office ? Do you think when the slum landlord is exposed he should keep his party whip ?
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Post by wannabee on Sept 2, 2024 16:52:15 GMT
Do you have any evidence your libellous allegation that it was Starmer that reinstated Athwal? Even Squakbox didn't allege that but say it was Starmer led Labour Party NEC I think you're also on shaky ground conflating someone cleared of sexual allegations and being a Shit Landlord as testament to their overall character If you can't see that a Corbynsceptic Candidate favourite to win selection was suspended one month before 2019 Election for allegations that he was cleared of 9 months later. Or that the Corbyn Candidate was deselected for the next Election isn't Dirty Politics from both wings of the Labour Party you are being blinded by your bias. 1. Do you think a slum landlord of unregistered properties can be of good character? 2. Do you think a slum landlord should hold public office ? 3. Do you think when the slum landlord is exposed he should keep his party whip ? Gawa and i were debating an entirely different subject but i have no problem answering your questions 1. No, but I think the circumstances of whether he was aware of the condition of the properties and their licencing should be established. My point was that someone cleared of sexual allegations casts no aspersion on someone’s character, if they are a shit landlord that stands on its own. 2. No, again with the caveat of investigation 3. No, I think he should be suspended and investigated so that the answers to 1 and 2 can be established
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Post by phileetin on Sept 3, 2024 8:29:13 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 3, 2024 9:16:14 GMT
Won't be long before soylant green is introduced by them for the benefit of the economy.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 3, 2024 9:27:54 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Sept 3, 2024 11:34:01 GMT
When is Chairman TwoTier releasing the mugshots and giving swift justice to those involved in the Leeds riot?
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Post by salopstick on Sept 3, 2024 11:46:52 GMT
When is Chairman TwoTier releasing the mugshots and giving swift justice to those involved in the Leeds riot? in a nutshell
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Post by phileetin on Sept 3, 2024 14:40:40 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 3, 2024 14:49:23 GMT
I don't understand this. Surely what they gain will be lost by the migration of kids into state schools and the extra pressure that imposes. Private school parents effectively pay twice. Well, way more than twice given some of the private fees involved. And I don't believe in private schools either. Even though I did actually attend this very school. A very long time ago mind 😉
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Post by phileetin on Sept 3, 2024 15:00:47 GMT
the school has radically changed from when you attended.
i noticed that a lot of the pupils are now very ethnic , apparently due to challenges made about the catchment area so a lot of the children of staff at the local hospital that lived nearby were able to go there.
St Theresas by the michelin is similarly populated .
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Post by gawa on Sept 3, 2024 15:05:12 GMT
I don't understand this. Surely what they gain will be lost by the migration of kids into state schools and the extra pressure that imposes. Private school parents effectively pay twice. Well, way more than twice given some of the private fees involved. And I don't believe in private schools either. Even though I did actually attend this very school. A very long time ago mind 😉 What makes you immediately believe they'll necessarily be going to a state school? From what I gather the school only has 80 pupils and its fees are 3k (per term or year?). When you think of the staffing, maintenance and utility costs - that doesn't leave alot of money. I imagine inflation and increased energy costs have likely had just as big an impact. But again nothing to say these kids will end up in state schools. If the parents are willing to pay the money then they may well just go to another private school. In the same way some state schools close and their pupils go to the next state school. There's less kids than there used to be and people are also poorer. I foresee more schools, state and private, closing in the future.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 3, 2024 15:18:44 GMT
I don't understand this. Surely what they gain will be lost by the migration of kids into state schools and the extra pressure that imposes. Private school parents effectively pay twice. Well, way more than twice given some of the private fees involved. And I don't believe in private schools either. Even though I did actually attend this very school. A very long time ago mind 😉 There's spare capacity in the state school sector in areas such as Staffordshire currently. That wouldn't be the case for somewhere like Surrey of course......
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Post by superjw on Sept 3, 2024 16:49:06 GMT
I’m surprised that Prep school has lasted as long as it has, really small and is only a private primary school. The St Joes high school/college where most of the kids then go isn’t private so it’s never really made much sense to me.
There is a state primary a matter of yards away too, plus St Theresa’s at the bottom of the road (assuming they have space mind)
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Post by gawa on Sept 4, 2024 15:01:48 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Sept 4, 2024 15:09:59 GMT
This winter fuel payment fiasco is going to stick with him for a long time
it was his choice to hit pensioners, i dont know if its because pensioners vote blue or what
already there is growing opposition within his own party
he has the majority to do what he wants but voters have long memories
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Post by Veritas on Sept 4, 2024 15:19:40 GMT
This winter fuel payment fiasco is going to stick with him for a long time it was his choice to hit pensioners, i dont know if its because pensioners vote blue or what already there is growing opposition within his own party he has the majority to do what he wants but voters have long memories The reality is voters have very short memories
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Post by salopstick on Sept 4, 2024 15:30:36 GMT
This winter fuel payment fiasco is going to stick with him for a long time it was his choice to hit pensioners, i dont know if its because pensioners vote blue or what already there is growing opposition within his own party he has the majority to do what he wants but voters have long memories The reality is voters have very short memories pensioners losing cash dont bringing it back will be no1 on the next lot of tory, reform and lib manifesos
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Post by Veritas on Sept 4, 2024 15:32:11 GMT
The reality is voters have very short memories pensioners losing cash dont They do, it is why all governments do the unpopular stuff in the first year.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 4, 2024 15:34:22 GMT
The reality is voters have very short memories pensioners losing cash dont bringing it back will be no1 on the next lot of tory, reform and lib manifesos I doubt it. They may change the threshold at which it gets paid, but I don’t think it is popular with anyone for rich pensioners to get state benefits. It should be means tested. Personally, I would increase the threshold so more pensioners can keep the allowance.
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Post by stokeson on Sept 4, 2024 15:37:28 GMT
The reality is voters have very short memories pensioners losing cash dont bringing it back will be no1 on the next lot of tory, reform and lib manifesos Labour are in the process of linking Housing benefit to pension credit and that will solve the problem
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 4, 2024 15:41:31 GMT
Starmer’s statement on Grenfell was excellent today. Spot on in terms of tone, and focused on what the report says about the government’s responsibility for keeping its citizens safe.
The report is utterly damning. It really should have its own thread.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 4, 2024 16:37:17 GMT
Starmer’s statement on Grenfell was excellent today. Spot on in terms of tone, and focused on what the report says about the government’s responsibility for keeping its citizens safe. The report is utterly damning. It really should have its own thread. Fill ya boots oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/300309/grenfell-enquiry
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 4, 2024 16:50:15 GMT
Starmer’s statement on Grenfell was excellent today. Spot on in terms of tone, and focused on what the report says about the government’s responsibility for keeping its citizens safe. The report is utterly damning. It really should have its own thread. One of the most disgusting things I've seen in parliament remains when Corbyn gave a heartfelt speech on Grenfell, and the Tories opposite laughed and ridiculed his lime green tie worn in support of the families. The fall out from Grenfell is a stain on our country............
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Post by salopstick on Sept 4, 2024 17:22:11 GMT
pensioners losing cash dont bringing it back will be no1 on the next lot of tory, reform and lib manifesos Labour are in the process of linking Housing benefit to pension credit and that will solve the problem Not for pensioners who don’t claim housing benefit or pension credit
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Post by superjw on Sept 4, 2024 19:28:28 GMT
I see that this proposed “pay per mile” scheme is getting more media attention, Sentinel also reporting on it today.
Feels as if the public are slowly being warmed up to this, whatever it is won’t be a benefit for the majority and will end up paying more. There are some wild figures floating around too, including a sliding scale rate per mile (similar to how it works with the tax today)
A far simpler solution is to just start charging EVs the VED tax which I thought was already planned, that would go a good way to plug the tax gap. Could quite easily implement a scheme where fuel duty could be applied to the EV charging tariffs at the points around the country as well as to the EV domestic tariffs (which would be harder to get right admittedly) Petrol/Diesel cars already pay per mile via fuel duty so it makes no sense to change the system other than to make it more expensive to drive.
As always it will be working people and the lowest incomes that get hit hardest with this if it comes
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 4, 2024 19:51:24 GMT
I see that this proposed “pay per mile” scheme is getting more media attention, Sentinel also reporting on it today. Feels as if the public are slowly being warmed up to this, whatever it is won’t be a benefit for the majority and will end up paying more. There are some wild figures floating around too, including a sliding scale rate per mile (similar to how it works with the tax today) A far simpler solution is to just start charging EVs the VED tax which I thought was already planned, that would go a good way to plug the tax gap. Could quite easily implement a scheme where fuel duty could be applied to the EV charging tariffs at the points around the country as well as to the EV domestic tariffs (which would be harder to get right admittedly) Petrol/Diesel cars already pay per mile via fuel duty so it makes no sense to change the system other than to make it more expensive to drive. As always it will be working people and the lowest incomes that get hit hardest with this if it comes Have you got a link for this for more information? I hadn’t even heard of any such idea until reading your post.
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Post by superjw on Sept 4, 2024 19:59:59 GMT
I see that this proposed “pay per mile” scheme is getting more media attention, Sentinel also reporting on it today. Feels as if the public are slowly being warmed up to this, whatever it is won’t be a benefit for the majority and will end up paying more. There are some wild figures floating around too, including a sliding scale rate per mile (similar to how it works with the tax today) A far simpler solution is to just start charging EVs the VED tax which I thought was already planned, that would go a good way to plug the tax gap. Could quite easily implement a scheme where fuel duty could be applied to the EV charging tariffs at the points around the country as well as to the EV domestic tariffs (which would be harder to get right admittedly) Petrol/Diesel cars already pay per mile via fuel duty so it makes no sense to change the system other than to make it more expensive to drive. As always it will be working people and the lowest incomes that get hit hardest with this if it comes Have you got a link for this for more information? I hadn’t even heard of any such idea until reading your post. Sentinel one, obviously one takes what they publish with decent pinch of salt - www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/new-pay-per-mile-car-9528883.ampQuite a few other outlets reporting on it when googled too. In fairness I haven’t come across any “official” government word on this yet so could end up being a non story come October, but seems to be getting airtime nonetheless
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 5, 2024 2:45:43 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 5, 2024 2:53:12 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 5, 2024 6:03:21 GMT
www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/sep/05/ministers-introduce-plans-to-remove-all-hereditary-peers-from-lordsAnother good move from this Labour government. Starting the reforms that are needed to our country by banishing hereditary peers once and for all. The Lords isn’t by any means perfect, but it has knocked sense into Parliament on many occasions making the elected house rethink legislation being passed easily by majorities in the elected house, before relenting as it always does to the elected house. At least with these changes there will be no birthright to be a member and so leaders in their respective fields in business, health, law, education (and sadly politics) will fill the Lords instead. Many far more qualified than our elected officials to be making decisions about laws in our country.
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