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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 5, 2024 18:19:03 GMT
I agree mate. Just my thoughts but for me religion has got no place in the modern world and causes so much shit you have to question whether it's worth it. I agree. But billions disagree with you and I though. And plenty of those blindly follow whatever their religious leaders say. A bit like people blindly following what Lawrence Fox or Tommy Robinson guess! Just as much make believe, that for sure. I agree mate and unfortunately I don't think it's going to change anytime soon. I don't follow either of them either mate for the record. I've always followed my self and what I think is right, at least then if I get it wrong I know why and can do something about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 18:47:05 GMT
When community leaders believe in fairy stories (bible or koran) I’d have very little faith in them I agree mate. Just my thoughts but for me religion has got no place in the modern world and causes so much shit you have to question whether it's worth it. I actually disagree with this. I think that extremism will be found anywhere. If religion disappeared, people would be exploited in a new way. Religion just offers a good place to identify individuals who are lost and targetable. I don’t spend a lot of time in church. However, my Chinese mother-in-law does. It helped her a lot when she moved to the US. She is chair of the social committee now and organizes events and fundraisers. Notably, she also directly helps people. Since my son was born, her maternal instincts have been kicking in and she’s been volunteering at the church to babysit infants for a few hours at a time while their parents go in the next room and study for college etc. In no world is that a bad thing and in my opinion, the loss of church going has been a problem for a lot of cultures because they often are not replaced. People would meet their neighbours and engage in activities like my mother-in-law much more commonly 50 years ago than they do now. Is it any wonder why people feel less connected to their communities? People don’t have to go to church but the regular conversations that communities are disappearing is not surprising as their function of bringing people together just hasn’t been replaced.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 5, 2024 19:01:55 GMT
I agree mate. Just my thoughts but for me religion has got no place in the modern world and causes so much shit you have to question whether it's worth it. I think church going Christian’s are very much a dying breed. Certainly in the UK. Muslims however are hanging on to their outdated beliefs. Maybe it’s because it’s a few hundred years younger and they need another few hundred years to face reality You are not correct religions are growing: www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/The church I attend is thriving and growing. I think more people in Europe are being honest and admitting they are not religious when previously they would pay lip service. When people become affluent they think they don't need religion. Muslims are not " hanging on", their numbers are increasing rapidly and forecast to match the numbers of Christians. The British mainstream media may have dropped virtually all religious programmes, but there are now more religious channels and broadcasting than at any time in history. There is also probably more religious persecution than any time in history. I suggest you go to your local community church, you might get a surprise how many are there and who you might know.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 5, 2024 19:05:50 GMT
I agree mate. Just my thoughts but for me religion has got no place in the modern world and causes so much shit you have to question whether it's worth it. I actually disagree with this. I think that extremism will be found anywhere. If religion disappeared, people would be exploited in a new way. Religion just offers a good place to identify individuals who are lost and targetable. I don’t spend a lot of time in church. However, my Chinese mother-in-law does. It helped her a lot when she moved to the US. She is chair of the social committee now and organizes events and fundraisers. Notably, she also directly helps people. Since my son was born, her maternal instincts have been kicking in and she’s been volunteering at the church to babysit infants for a few hours at a time while their parents go in the next room and study for college etc. In no world is that a bad thing and in my opinion, the loss of church going has been a problem for a lot of cultures because they often are not replaced. People would meet their neighbours and engage in activities like my mother-in-law much more commonly 50 years ago than they do now. Is it any wonder why people feel less connected to their communities? People don’t have to go to church but the regular conversations that communities are disappearing is not surprising as their function of bringing people together just hasn’t been replaced. Mate I understand your point of view completely and I've got no problem with that. My views I understand will not be shared by many and I know it's not going to change in my lifetime but in my opinion alot of problems are caused by religion or more precisely some of the idiots (not all by a long stretch may I add) who follow it in it's many forms.
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Post by chad on Aug 5, 2024 19:07:43 GMT
I think church going Christian’s are very much a dying breed. Certainly in the UK. Muslims however are hanging on to their outdated beliefs. Maybe it’s because it’s a few hundred years younger and they need another few hundred years to face reality You are not correct religions are growing: www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/The church I attend is thriving and growing. I think more people in Europe are being honest and admitting they are not religious when previously they would pay lip service. When people become affluent they think they don't need religion. Muslims are not " hanging on", their numbers are increasing rapidly and forecast to match the numbers of Christians. The British mainstream media may have dropped virtually all religious programmes, but there are now more religious channels and broadcasting than at any time in history. There is also probably more religious persecution than any time in history. I suggest you go to your local community church, you might get a surprise how many are there and who you might know. Each to own I don’t have any problems with other peoples beliefs But in my quite wide circle of friends I don’t know anyone who goes to church. (Weddings and funerals apart) And, honestly no offence, but why would I go to church when I don’t believe
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 6, 2024 15:31:54 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 6, 2024 16:44:39 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 6, 2024 16:45:26 GMT
Are you pleased that an unelected billionaire has more power than our elected Prime Minister?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2024 17:11:13 GMT
I'd love to know who Musk is really working for. Proper tin foil hat theory here but there's absolutely a new world order and I'm convinced he's smack bang in the middle of it.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 6, 2024 17:17:11 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Aug 6, 2024 19:11:30 GMT
Good luck with that. He's an American billionaire. He'd laugh at the futile attempts to prosecute him in this country.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 6, 2024 19:16:11 GMT
That’s quite amusing Oggy, even by your high standards
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Post by knype on Aug 6, 2024 19:27:21 GMT
So quelling free speech ?
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 6, 2024 19:29:49 GMT
So quelling free speech ? It isn’t quelling free speech to ensure libel laws are complied with. It is just applying the same rules to big social media as those that apply to newspapers or magazines or television.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 6, 2024 19:31:07 GMT
Good luck with that. He's an American billionaire. He'd laugh at the futile attempts to prosecute him in this country. Perhaps. But at least we wouldn’t have to endure as many X links on here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2024 20:08:17 GMT
So quelling free speech ? Not really. People can still say what they want, they just don’t have to do it on Twitter. Let them go outside and rant at the trees.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 7, 2024 6:47:01 GMT
I'd quite like to see that happen. Even on this place, just to see the meltdown that those people with 40,000+ posts would have without their outlet to pontificate into the ether.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 7, 2024 6:53:36 GMT
That would certainly mean the end of this forum. No way Pro Boards would take responsibility for some of the posts made on here.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 7, 2024 8:11:29 GMT
That would certainly mean the end of this forum. No way Pro Boards would take responsibility for some of the posts made on here. I was thinking more of the social media sites with over perhaps 100,000 or 500,000 subscribers.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 7, 2024 8:35:33 GMT
That would certainly mean the end of this forum. No way Pro Boards would take responsibility for some of the posts made on here. I was thinking more of the social media sites with over perhaps 100,000 or 500,000 subscribers. I thought the world revolved around here, or am I mistaken?
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Post by starkiller on Aug 7, 2024 10:43:45 GMT
So quelling free speech ? Not really. People can still say what they want, they just don’t have to do it on Twitter. Let them go outside and rant at the trees. They also don't need the internet to see the problems in their communities. They just need to go outside and look around. Or they going to ban eyes next?
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Post by gawa on Aug 7, 2024 12:02:15 GMT
Oh we are fucked now lads. For the 172828th time the newspapers are warning us about the incoming devastation of millionaires fleeing because of tax rises
Oh NO what about our jobs? How will we ever have a job without millionaires? And the sun? Maybe the sun won't come out anymore as there are no millionaires. We must do everything we can to stop the exodus. I am nothing without my slave master.
Good old fearmongering from a newspaper owned by millionaires to make us all fear the utter devastation which may come if they have to pay an extra tenner in tax a week.
Someone needs to check on on some of our posters. This is their biggest fear. Child poverty fine. Shit in our beaches fine. Pensioners going cold fine. Housing crisis fine. NHS gone to pot fine. But not the millionaires 🤣
Wonder how the exodus of Scottish millionaires is going since their tax rises. I hear they're all living on rations up there now and it's descended into civil war.
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Post by phileetin on Aug 7, 2024 13:06:03 GMT
who do you think does the investing ?
it's certainly not the state
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Post by gawa on Aug 7, 2024 13:29:52 GMT
who do you think does the investing ? it's certainly not the state 😁 You know that bottled water you drink, it comes from the sky. The bricks on those houses which are built comes from the clay. The windows on those houses comes from the sand. The gas used to heat those homes comes from the ground. The food that feeds you is grown in the soil. Everything comes from natural resources. But anyway the key thing is it's just fear mongering. They're not actually leaving. It's the same as the fearmongering about taxing private schools. You keep fighting for them Mr secret millionaire
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 7, 2024 13:53:48 GMT
Why on earth did he want the top job, or even to be an MP then? Like the rest of them it's just a stepping stone. And that daft mare just laughs!
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Post by salopstick on Aug 7, 2024 15:23:31 GMT
Why on earth did he want the top job, or even to be an MP then? Like the rest of them it's just a stepping stone. And that daft mare just laughs! I dont think hes a nice man
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Post by desman2 on Aug 7, 2024 16:19:02 GMT
To be fair, even though I've no great love for him Jeremy Corbyn would have been a far better leader than Starmer. Corbyn did have a bit of charisma about him while Starmer has absolutely none. Unless something extraordinary happens then there must be backbench Labour MP's who already know that only after a few weeks in power, it will be game over for them at the next election.
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Post by desman2 on Aug 7, 2024 16:26:29 GMT
Then you would have to shut down TV stations, Newspapers etc, especially ones you don't like. Musk can say what he likes. His speech is protected unlike this shit show we have here where nothing is protected. Simply shutting it down doesn't make it go away. It just resurfaces somewhere else.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 7, 2024 17:10:44 GMT
Then you would have to shut down TV stations, Newspapers etc, especially ones you don't like. Musk can say what he likes. His speech is protected unlike this shit show we have here where nothing is protected. Simply shutting it down doesn't make it go away. It just resurfaces somewhere else. No you don’t. Libel and slander laws already apply to tv and newspapers. They aren’t shut down. They are just responsible for what they publish or broadcast. Unlike social media. Where it is the individual users who are responsible for what post and the social media companies don’t even have to know who their users are or where they live or check their age etc. So I am just saying social media should be as responsible as other media. Libel and slander are extremely hard to successfully claim.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 9, 2024 17:37:13 GMT
Didn't know where stick this so thought I'd chuck it in here...
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