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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2020 12:33:08 GMT
Burgon gone now. It's a real Corbyn cleansing. Burgon in a wide field has to be the worst and thickest politician of my lifetime that he was a massive corbyn fan tells you everything. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 12:43:22 GMT
Are we on Starmerism now then, or Johnsonism? Or do nonsense labels just apply to the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. I'm not a member of the Labour Party and never have been, I see and hear the same as everyone else. But it's fairly clear the party is shifting to the right. Starmer in my opinion will use the Coronavirus outbreak as a way of ditching some of Corbyn's policies and go down the centrist route. But let's wait and see I guess, one thing's for sure if the boot was on the other foot the papers would be calling this a "Stalinist purge" of "moderate" Labour MP's...... Very few people get an ‘ism” after their name. Thatcher did, I’m not sure anyone else did before Corbyn. I guess it’s when an individual gets associated with a radically different approach. I’d does seem the PLP is reasserting control from the CLPs which would mean moving right. I guess the big test of this will be how the NEC shapes up going forward. As I understand things, they shape Labour policy. I expect to hear 'Blairite' a lot in the coming weeks. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 12:46:54 GMT
Meet the new Seumas.
Seems he got the dress code memo.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 6, 2020 12:53:24 GMT
Burgon gone now. It's a real Corbyn cleansing. Burgon in a wide field has to be the worst and thickest politician of my lifetime that he was a massive corbyn fan tells you everything. He's no Chris Grayling or Liz Truss. The twitter reaction when the rumour came out that Truss was to do the daily briefing last week was superb and not just from the left. She has all the credibility of a circus clown. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 6, 2020 12:58:09 GMT
Very few people get an ‘ism” after their name. Thatcher did, I’m not sure anyone else did before Corbyn. I guess it’s when an individual gets associated with a radically different approach. I’d does seem the PLP is reasserting control from the CLPs which would mean moving right. I guess the big test of this will be how the NEC shapes up going forward. As I understand things, they shape Labour policy. I expect to hear 'Blairite' a lot in the coming weeks. I know what word will be following it as well if I use it  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 13:28:16 GMT
The Sun are going to town on Burgon. He's that thick he succesfully sued them for libel before putting the money to supporting an apprenticeship scheme in Leeds.......
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 6, 2020 13:34:24 GMT
Very few people get an ‘ism” after their name. Thatcher did, I’m not sure anyone else did before Corbyn. I guess it’s when an individual gets associated with a radically different approach. I’d does seem the PLP is reasserting control from the CLPs which would mean moving right. I guess the big test of this will be how the NEC shapes up going forward. As I understand things, they shape Labour policy. I expect to hear 'Blairite' a lot in the coming weeks. Did you hear Tony on the Today program this morning. It was like a breath of fresh air hearing him speak with such clarity, as opposed to this shutdown captive audience party political double speak we’ve had for the past fortnight. I don’t know what will kill us first C19 or Tory bü!!$#!t. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 13:37:37 GMT
A place for RLB, I stand corrected on that one......
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 14:07:51 GMT
A place for RLB, I stand corrected on that one...... It's a gesture to keep folks like you in the party. A bit like Prescott being in New Labour and Campbell telling us in his diaries that Blair hardly ever invited him to meetings. Many's the time John would arrive huffing and puffing only to find it was finished and everyone was leaving. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 14:16:25 GMT
A place for RLB, I stand corrected on that one...... It's a gesture to keep folks like you in the party. A bit like Prescott being in New Labour and Campbell telling us in his diaries that Blair hardly ever invited him to meetings. Many's the time John would arrive huffing and puffing only to find it was finished and everyone was leaving. I'm not in the party roger and never have been. Do keep up...... |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 6, 2020 14:21:15 GMT
I expect to hear 'Blairite' a lot in the coming weeks. Did you hear Tony on the Today program this morning. It was like a breath of fresh air hearing him speak with such clarity, as opposed to this shutdown captive audience party political double speak we’ve had for the past fortnight. I don’t know what will kill us first C19 or Tory bü!!$#!t. I really hope Blair wades in on the side of Starmer It will do him the world of good to have a rampant eu supporting war criminal given him a hand maybe he could convince him to sell parts of the NHS off in deals that cost a fortune Or even better I'm sure Starmer could do with a couple of quid for advising dodgy former soviet republics |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 14:26:30 GMT
It's a gesture to keep folks like you in the party. A bit like Prescott being in New Labour and Campbell telling us in his diaries that Blair hardly ever invited him to meetings. Many's the time John would arrive huffing and puffing only to find it was finished and everyone was leaving. I'm not in the party roger and never have been. Do keep up...... OK. It's a gesture to keep folks like you voting for Labour. Or at the very least not straying to the Socialist Workers Party. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 14:30:41 GMT
I'm not in the party roger and never have been. Do keep up...... OK. It's a gesture to keep folks like you voting for Labour. Or at the very least not straying to the Socialist Workers Party. There's plenty of time for me to decide where to put my X in the next election roger, and a lot I'm sure will happen between now and then. So I wouldn't waste anytime thinking about it...... |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 6, 2020 14:30:51 GMT
Oh goody Charlie falconers back
Maybe he can come up with some excuse for Starmer to murder thousands of Muslim civilians and the odd British soldier or two
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Post by thevoid on Apr 6, 2020 14:32:13 GMT
Can I remind you of our agreement?This should be a day of celebration for you anyway, the 'biggest political movement in Europe' has got some new members. Go and celebrate 😊 We have no agreement, it's just a faceless keyboard warrior giving it the big one every time his waffle gets responded to. Anyway I'm sure you have a hilarious example of a Dianne Abbott gaffe to share, underneath a picture of Dawn Butler. These Jews, and black people, they all look the same to you don't they fella? What on Earth are you babbling on about you utter cretin? I've challenged racism when I've come across it (perpetrated by white folks on a black chap) so your rant is as incorrect as it is misguided and lacking in any ounce of originality. 'a faceless keyboard warrior giving it the big one every time his waffle gets responded to'. If the cap fits, no-mark 😎 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 14:42:34 GMT
We have no agreement, it's just a faceless keyboard warrior giving it the big one every time his waffle gets responded to. Anyway I'm sure you have a hilarious example of a Dianne Abbott gaffe to share, underneath a picture of Dawn Butler. These Jews, and black people, they all look the same to you don't they fella? What on Earth are you babbling on about you utter cretin? I've challenged racism when I've come across it (perpetrated by white folks on a black chap) so your rant is as incorrect as it is misguided and lacking in any ounce of originality. 'a faceless keyboard warrior giving it the big one every time his waffle gets responded to'. If the cap fits, no-mark 😎  |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2020 14:44:36 GMT
The Sun are going to town on Burgon. He's that thick he succesfully sued them for libel before putting the money to supporting an apprenticeship scheme in Leeds....... Unlike the mail who had a tape of him saying things he didnt remember saying and didnt believe even if he was filmed thumping the table saying those things he didnt believe in and didnt remember saying. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2020 14:46:05 GMT
Burgon in a wide field has to be the worst and thickest politician of my lifetime that he was a massive corbyn fan tells you everything. He's no Chris Grayling or Liz Truss. The twitter reaction when the rumour came out that Truss was to do the daily briefing last week was superb and not just from the left. She has all the credibility of a circus clown. You are confusing useless with being thick his uncle even had to fix it for him to be an MP. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 6, 2020 14:52:15 GMT
He's no Chris Grayling or Liz Truss. The twitter reaction when the rumour came out that Truss was to do the daily briefing last week was superb and not just from the left. She has all the credibility of a circus clown. You are confusing useless with being thick his uncle even had to fix it for him to be an MP. I'm guessing that his ten years as a successful solicitor in employment law makes him cleverer than a fair few? I think that this probably gets to the heart of it |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 15:01:52 GMT
Lady Nugee was always a shoe-in right? Those London lawyers were never going to leave each other out. Lammy's a right laugh though. Cue the clip with Andrew Neil where Lammy's saying the police are deliberately understating the Grenfell deaths. What a hoot. Anyway, has anyone done the inevitable remain/leave breakdown? I got this from yesterday. Remain, remain, remain (ex-MEP), remain, remain, remain and remain. Although Raynor was a bit on the fence wasn't she? Probably didn't understand the question. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 6, 2020 15:05:00 GMT
He's no Chris Grayling or Liz Truss. The twitter reaction when the rumour came out that Truss was to do the daily briefing last week was superb and not just from the left. She has all the credibility of a circus clown. You are confusing useless with being thick his uncle even had to fix it for him to be an MP. Ancient history youth. When Journos do it to Joris, he nicks their phone off them... |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2020 15:06:06 GMT
You are confusing useless with being thick his uncle even had to fix it for him to be an MP. I'm guessing that his ten years as a successful solicitor in employment law makes him cleverer than a fair few? I think that this probably gets to the heart of it No its just he is a bit thick shall I put the clips up "people said we'd lose the last election" interviewer " you did....". |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 15:08:04 GMT
All the runners and riders from The Independents Rentoul. Including those that got the Spanish Archer.
Interesting point. A Shadow Cabinet of 32 to shadow the actual cabinet of 23.
Also, in the same Labour press release; 15 male, 17 female and 7 BAME MP's. It's almost like they started with those numbers first then found the faces to fit.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 6, 2020 15:16:33 GMT
What on Earth are you babbling on about you utter cretin? I've challenged racism when I've come across it (perpetrated by white folks on a black chap) so your rant is as incorrect as it is misguided and lacking in any ounce of originality. 'a faceless keyboard warrior giving it the big one every time his waffle gets responded to'. If the cap fits, no-mark 😎 Prestwich Poker: the race card followed by a GIF 😂 Well countered, fella |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 15:32:41 GMT
What's this nonsense that keeps popping up on my Twitter feed about Starmer and Jimmy Saville?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 6, 2020 16:03:47 GMT
What's this nonsense that keeps popping up on my Twitter feed about Starmer and Jimmy Saville? Right wing desperation |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 16:18:41 GMT
What's this nonsense that keeps popping up on my Twitter feed about Starmer and Jimmy Saville? He was director of public prosecutions during the blunder that meant Savile never went to trial when alive. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 16:26:59 GMT
What's this nonsense that keeps popping up on my Twitter feed about Starmer and Jimmy Saville? He was director of public prosecutions during the blunder that meant Savile never went to trial when alive. That's what I was reading but to be fair, some of the linked websites looked highly dodgy, and the other one was the Daily Mail 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 16:36:55 GMT
He was director of public prosecutions during the blunder that meant Savile never went to trial when alive. That's what I was reading but to be fair, some of the linked websites looked highly dodgy, and the other one was the Daily Mail 😁 He apologised for the mistakes they made to be fair. Would have been nice to see him get what was coming when alive but wasn't to be. It isn't made up or some smear campaign is something that was widely reported at the time. I think were 4 cases that weren't properly investigated but he died a year or two later I think. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2020 17:56:15 GMT
The Savile case is interesting. The classic, I was in charge but it wasn't my fault. Or as Corbo would say, I was there but not involved. In 2007 a victim comes forward with a story that Savile had kissed her (I think) back in the 70's when she was a young teenager and Savile is interviewed under caution. By 2009 another 3 victims come forward. All with similar stories. Inappropriate touching, kissing, squeezing etc. enough now for the Surrey police to create a file and submit it to the Crown Prosecution Service, CPS. The head of the CPS was the Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer. The file didn't get processed further. Fast forward 2 years, Savile dies in late 2011 and a year later after hundreds of victims come forward it's found that the CPS decided there was 'not enough evidence' to prosecute back in 2009. The Guardian reports that all four of the victims refused to continue to prosecution so the CPS had to drop the case. I find that odd. Why would you go to the police in the first place. Submit interviews, evidence, statements and you realise you're not alone but when the CPS come knocking you back down. I understand maybe 1 or 2 victims might back out but all 4!?! The newspaper never mentions Starmer. The Independent goes with a different angle. Here Starmer is proactive. He's 'launching an inquiry'...... into his own organisation. He distances himself from the findings by asking his Principal Legal Adviser to review files so he can act and surprise, surprise up pops his old mate and brand new Shadow Secretary of State for International Trade Emily Thornberry, aka, Lady Nugee. She of course 'welcomes' his actions. She's disappointed the CPS failed to act. Not the Head of the CPS failed to act. When Starmer is ever asked about this episode he says the Savile file 'never crossed his desk'. If it had, he would have been all over it. So as head of the CPS and the 3rd highest legal voice in the country he was 'unaware' that a file on Jimmy Savile had been received by his organisation. A file on a BBC veteran of 50 years. A file years in the making and containing consistent testimonies which have since been proved to be the tip of the biggest paedophile iceberg in the UK. Ever. Believe what you will. |
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