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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 31, 2024 7:41:54 GMT
Labour have chosen pensioners to take the hit, most of them vote Tory anyway so no great loss as far as they're concerned. 4D chess, grown up politics from Starmer, deal with it folks....... So because they don't vote the 'right' way it's fair for them to suffer? How about those they've hoodwinked into voting for them with the statements recently made and evidenced above? Trust a politician! None of the above has to be included on any future ballot papers.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 31, 2024 7:51:55 GMT
Labour have chosen pensioners to take the hit, most of them vote Tory anyway so no great loss as far as they're concerned. 4D chess, grown up politics from Starmer, deal with it folks....... So because they don't vote the 'right' way it's fair for them to suffer? How about those they've hoodwinked into voting for them with the statements recently made and evidenced above? Trust a politician! None of the above has to be included on any future ballot papers. I was taking the piss, what I wrote is what every centrist dad with an opinion is saying about their mate Keith….
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Post by desman2 on Jul 31, 2024 14:58:01 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jul 31, 2024 15:06:26 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Jul 31, 2024 15:06:33 GMT
cancelling free prescriptions for over 60's
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Post by desman2 on Jul 31, 2024 15:13:30 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 31, 2024 15:17:08 GMT
cancelling free prescriptions for over 60's The over 60's should have put more away for a rainy day, I see quite a few of them walking around with smartphones as well........
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Post by desman2 on Jul 31, 2024 15:19:16 GMT
cancelling free prescriptions for over 60's The over 60's should have put more away for a rainy day, I see quite a few of them walking around with smartphones as well........ They did but Gordon Brown fucked up their final salary schemmes
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Post by salopstick on Jul 31, 2024 15:19:55 GMT
oh i knew that - always labour that starts the cuts for the needy or in higher education starts the fees
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Post by desman2 on Jul 31, 2024 15:23:16 GMT
oh i knew that - always labour that starts the cuts for the needy or in higher education starts the fees And don't get me started on Labour shutting down tech colleges and nursing and midwife schools where the students actually got paid as employees to send them all to universities where it put them up to 30 grand in debt for the same qualification.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 31, 2024 15:23:23 GMT
cancelling free prescriptions for over 60's The over 60's should have put more away for a rainy day, I see quite a few of them walking around with smartphones as well........ lets mean test all benefits for pensioners. but lets start the threshold somewhere sensible so that it only affects the very well off. Start with a threshold of around £25k for single and £35k for couples but use that money only to increase pensioners benefits below that
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Post by gawa on Jul 31, 2024 19:40:00 GMT
Feel sorry for people like this. Wish the clip showed Carol Vordermans response. I will hold her to account for every bad decision labour make. She put her heart and soul into canvassing for their super majority and so she is one of the architects of this.
Many others could see tory lite coming. No excuses from her. These decisions are made in her name.
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Post by gawa on Jul 31, 2024 20:59:24 GMT
Was very convient that this smear came out of nowhere ahead of the election. Of course bbc were happy to report it all over Scotland at any opportunity too.
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Post by henry on Jul 31, 2024 21:08:26 GMT
The over 60's should have put more away for a rainy day, I see quite a few of them walking around with smartphones as well........ They did but Gordon Brown fucked up their final salary schemmes And Reeves will fuck up the next generations pensions as well.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 1, 2024 8:18:05 GMT
1. A 'stealth tax' One option would be to introduce a so-called stealth tax - a means of raising revenue which is not explicitly labelled or intended as a tax. Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), believes the most obvious solution would be to focus on tax thresholds - the amount of money you can earn before any tax starts to be paid. Currently the thresholds on income tax and National Insurance are frozen until 2028, a policy brought in by the previous government. But Labour could extend them beyond this date. The policy amounts to a tax rise because of a process called "fiscal drag", which sees more people "dragged" into paying higher rates of tax as their wages rise. The Resolution Foundation, a think tank that aims to improve living standards for low-to-middle income families, calculates the current freeze will generate about £40bn of revenue by 2028. Its director James Smith told the BBC that may be enough to address the "shortfall" in the public finances, meaning Ms Reeves would not have to raise any other taxes.
How I read this the already terrible of policy keeping thresholds the same is already balancing the books so any other personal taxes should not rise - if they do its political
they can then raid big business for the extra spending they want to do
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Post by phileetin on Aug 1, 2024 9:57:20 GMT
1. A 'stealth tax' One option would be to introduce a so-called stealth tax - a means of raising revenue which is not explicitly labelled or intended as a tax. Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), believes the most obvious solution would be to focus on tax thresholds - the amount of money you can earn before any tax starts to be paid. Currently the thresholds on income tax and National Insurance are frozen until 2028, a policy brought in by the previous government. But Labour could extend them beyond this date. The policy amounts to a tax rise because of a process called "fiscal drag", which sees more people "dragged" into paying higher rates of tax as their wages rise. The Resolution Foundation, a think tank that aims to improve living standards for low-to-middle income families, calculates the current freeze will generate about £40bn of revenue by 2028. Its director James Smith told the BBC that may be enough to address the "shortfall" in the public finances, meaning Ms Reeves would not have to raise any other taxes. How I read this the already terrible of policy keeping thresholds the same is already balancing the books so any other personal taxes should not rise - if they do its political they can then raid big business for the extra spending they want to do bear with me there is a point at the end , re fiscal drag ....
i found it annoying in the period up to the election how the parties would be accused of planning to tax the state pension .
the fact is , that the state pension has always been taxable but , if your only income was the state pension , personal allowances were greater than the pension so there was no tax to pay .
with fiscal drag and the pension triple lock , state pension is now very close to the personal allowance limit so .... eventually there will be tax to pay on the state pension .
imagine the headlines ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 10:04:42 GMT
The issues are mounting up for the government
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Post by salopstick on Aug 1, 2024 10:26:40 GMT
1. A 'stealth tax' One option would be to introduce a so-called stealth tax - a means of raising revenue which is not explicitly labelled or intended as a tax. Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), believes the most obvious solution would be to focus on tax thresholds - the amount of money you can earn before any tax starts to be paid. Currently the thresholds on income tax and National Insurance are frozen until 2028, a policy brought in by the previous government. But Labour could extend them beyond this date. The policy amounts to a tax rise because of a process called "fiscal drag", which sees more people "dragged" into paying higher rates of tax as their wages rise. The Resolution Foundation, a think tank that aims to improve living standards for low-to-middle income families, calculates the current freeze will generate about £40bn of revenue by 2028. Its director James Smith told the BBC that may be enough to address the "shortfall" in the public finances, meaning Ms Reeves would not have to raise any other taxes. How I read this the already terrible of policy keeping thresholds the same is already balancing the books so any other personal taxes should not rise - if they do its political they can then raid big business for the extra spending they want to do bear with me there is a point at the end , re fiscal drag .... i found it annoying in the period up to the election how the parties would be accused of planning to tax the state pension . the fact is , that the state pension has always been taxable but , if your only income was the state pension , personal allowances were greater than the pension so there was no tax to pay . with fiscal drag and the pension triple lock , state pension is now very close to the personal allowance limit so .... eventually there will be tax to pay on the state pension . imagine the headlines ?
brazen enough to take your winter fuel bonus fiscal drag is water off a ducks back to these
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Post by henry on Aug 1, 2024 10:32:03 GMT
1. A 'stealth tax' One option would be to introduce a so-called stealth tax - a means of raising revenue which is not explicitly labelled or intended as a tax. Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), believes the most obvious solution would be to focus on tax thresholds - the amount of money you can earn before any tax starts to be paid. Currently the thresholds on income tax and National Insurance are frozen until 2028, a policy brought in by the previous government. But Labour could extend them beyond this date. The policy amounts to a tax rise because of a process called "fiscal drag", which sees more people "dragged" into paying higher rates of tax as their wages rise. The Resolution Foundation, a think tank that aims to improve living standards for low-to-middle income families, calculates the current freeze will generate about £40bn of revenue by 2028. Its director James Smith told the BBC that may be enough to address the "shortfall" in the public finances, meaning Ms Reeves would not have to raise any other taxes. How I read this the already terrible of policy keeping thresholds the same is already balancing the books so any other personal taxes should not rise - if they do its political they can then raid big business for the extra spending they want to do bear with me there is a point at the end , re fiscal drag .... i found it annoying in the period up to the election how the parties would be accused of planning to tax the state pension . the fact is , that the state pension has always been taxable but , if your only income was the state pension , personal allowances were greater than the pension so there was no tax to pay . with fiscal drag and the pension triple lock , state pension is now very close to the personal allowance limit so .... eventually there will be tax to pay on the state pension . imagine the headlines ?
Reeves and Starmer won’t give 2 fucks about headlines.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 1, 2024 10:41:24 GMT
Another massive issue heading his way in October and January That has to be AI generated bollocks
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Post by knype on Aug 1, 2024 10:42:31 GMT
The issues are mounting up for the government Are you surprised after they bent over and got bummed by the NHS and doctors with the massive pay rise? Train drivers will be at it again soon!
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 1, 2024 10:45:22 GMT
The issues are mounting up for the government Are you surprised after they bent over and got bummed by the NHS and doctors with the massive pay rise? Train drivers will be at it again soon! Well they’ve fucked over pensioners to cover junior doctors and teachers So who’s next to be shafted to subsidise GPs
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Post by phileetin on Aug 1, 2024 10:46:53 GMT
The issues are mounting up for the government Are you surprised after they bent over and got bummed by the NHS and doctors with the massive pay rise? Train drivers will be at it again soon! and teachers , in 6 weeks time.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 10:58:03 GMT
Another massive issue heading his way in October and January That has to be AI generated bollocks It wasn’t AI mate but a video from 2022 apparently so I’ve deleted it
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 1, 2024 12:35:21 GMT
Labour committed to tearing up planning laws and building 1.5 million homes over the next 5 years. But provided we keep handing out 1.2 million immigration visas per year as we have done in the last 12 months, what's the point? There are 10 million more of us than there were in the year 2000. It's bat shit crazy. This 1.5m is a nonsense the plan before they were elected was already over 1M and a load of those In london where hardly any bugger can afford them but where private industry udnerstdnble wants to build n them , they arent even close to moving the dial even if they hit and they wont. There first few weeks have been truly grim as the find the age old truth everything is easy in opposition. Oct 30th is going be horrible for anyone who have worked hard to create even moderate or comfortable circumstances , and they now have a GP issue because they collapsed on Junior doctors etc
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Post by Gods on Aug 1, 2024 13:47:46 GMT
Labour committed to tearing up planning laws and building 1.5 million homes over the next 5 years. But provided we keep handing out 1.2 million immigration visas per year as we have done in the last 12 months, what's the point? There are 10 million more of us than there were in the year 2000. It's bat shit crazy. This 1.5m is a nonsense the plan before they were elected was already over 1M and a load of those In london where hardly any bugger can afford them but where private industry udnerstdnble wants to build n them , they arent even close to moving the dial even if they hit and they wont. There first few weeks have been truly grim as the find the age old truth everything is easy in opposition. Oct 30th is going be horrible for anyone who have worked hard to create even moderate or comfortable circumstances , and they now have a GP issue because they collapsed on Junior doctors etc Totally, they will have to pay for buying their way out of trouble. To that end I fancy on October 30th they will take a big shot, among other things, at private pensions, Gordon Brown all over again, only worse.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 1, 2024 14:06:36 GMT
This 1.5m is a nonsense the plan before they were elected was already over 1M and a load of those In london where hardly any bugger can afford them but where private industry udnerstdnble wants to build n them , they arent even close to moving the dial even if they hit and they wont. There first few weeks have been truly grim as the find the age old truth everything is easy in opposition. Oct 30th is going be horrible for anyone who have worked hard to create even moderate or comfortable circumstances , and they now have a GP issue because they collapsed on Junior doctors etc Totally, they will have to pay for buying their way out of trouble. To that end I fancy on October 30th they will take a big shot, among other things, at private pensions, Gordon Brown all over again, only worse. Undoubtedly cgt pensions and inheritance tax all to be used a wealth re distributors while personally they oppose local gk the planning decisions and milk the mps Gravy train
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Post by salopstick on Aug 1, 2024 15:26:45 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Aug 1, 2024 15:36:37 GMT
we desparatly needed change but I dont think this government is bringing the same sort of feel good factor that Blair brought to the country in 1997.
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Post by knype on Aug 1, 2024 15:46:50 GMT
Keith, probing he has not got a clue with even more divisive language and setup
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