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Post by stokeson on Jul 11, 2024 13:45:15 GMT
it's not taken long for Nigel Farage Ltd to become fully autocratic Its the Rats in the sack senario.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 11, 2024 14:26:10 GMT
it's not taken long for Nigel Farage Ltd to become fully autocratic I love Jo Maugham's reply to him ... "If you need legal advice on how to sue @reformparty_uk because it's the private fiefdom of two very rich men rather than a party of the people we are here for you." š Well heās made his living out of pursuing ridiculous law suits
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 14:26:16 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 11, 2024 14:37:22 GMT
it's not taken long for Nigel Farage Ltd to become fully autocratic It's not my party and I'll cry cos I want to...
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Post by knype on Jul 11, 2024 14:59:52 GMT
So you agree with Muslim aggression against people? Was there actually any need to use the word Muslim in that sentence knype? Yes there was actually
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2024 15:26:49 GMT
Was there actually any need to use the word Muslim in that sentence knype? Yes there was actually What was it? How is the sentence different if you remove the word Muslim from it? Surely you're against ALL forms of personal aggression aren't you?
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 11, 2024 15:38:05 GMT
I love Jo Maugham's reply to him ... "If you need legal advice on how to sue @reformparty_uk because it's the private fiefdom of two very rich men rather than a party of the people we are here for you." š Well heās made his living out of pursuing ridiculous law suits Heās been very successful in many of those āridiculousā law suits.
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Post by yeokel on Jul 11, 2024 16:42:43 GMT
Good to see that he "stood up to bullies" by running away and hiding in a vicarage!
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Post by professorplump on Jul 11, 2024 17:04:46 GMT
it's not taken long for Nigel Farage Ltd to become fully autocratic It makes sense for the deputy leader to be an MP
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jul 11, 2024 20:57:31 GMT
The prison system has been failing for years under the tories as someone who works in the system something has to change with prisons and probation. The answer is not building more prisons What is the answer then? In my humble opinion: - Sack short prison sentences off, unless someone is going to serve 12 months in custody don't send them. - All prisoners are mandated to complete a psychological programme, you'd need to increase the amount of staff in these departments. - Open more therapeutic prisons. - Create rehabilitation hubs. Have probation, drug and alcohol services, employment services, accommodation, homeless support services all in the same place. - Allow probation to make disclosures concerning all domestic violence cases to any new partners. - Allow prison and probation to manage people who we are scared of not simply angry with. Drink drivers don't need supervising. Just a few things that have come off the top of my head I'm sure I'll think of more
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Post by desman2 on Jul 11, 2024 21:39:12 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way.
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2024 21:42:25 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way. Both for sure but if only one then Water industry
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Post by desman2 on Jul 11, 2024 21:49:28 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way. Both for sure but if only one then Water industry Totally agree with you. I think the railways, Water and energy should never be in private hands as I believe they are a strategic service. Also on a personal level I feel that the modern day culture for privatised companies is to provide undeserved dividends . not by providing a good product thus having a loyal customer base but screwing their customers with unnecessary increases to appease the investors. And don't mention the bonuses.
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2024 21:55:19 GMT
Both for sure but if only one then Water industry Totally agree with you. I think the railways, Water and energy should never be in private hands as I believe they are a strategic service. Also on a personal level I feel that the modern day culture for privatised companies is to provide undeserved dividends . not by providing a good product thus having a loyal customer base but screwing their customers with unnecessary increases to appease the investors. And don't mention the bonuses. Not sure there's anything new in that tbh Maybe it's more prevelant now?
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 11, 2024 23:14:25 GMT
Both for sure but if only one then Water industry Totally agree with you. I think the railways, Water and energy should never be in private hands as I believe they are a strategic service. Also on a personal level I feel that the modern day culture for privatised companies is to provide undeserved dividends . not by providing a good product thus having a loyal customer base but screwing their customers with unnecessary increases to appease the investors. And don't mention the bonuses. I think you can do some services private. Mobiles and internet in the UK is largely private but it's competitive so just much better than the shit in the US. The US politicians* make sure to stop competition . When I went to France recently it was Ā£15 for a month with 75 GB roaming with my UK phone, and $20+fees (closer to $25) *on top of my contract* for 10 days with 10 GB on the US one. *Maybe it's not fair to "both sides" this one since the vast majority of the shit was put in by republicans and would go away if democrats got solid majorities, but there are some corrupt cunts on the democrats side too.
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Post by gawa on Jul 11, 2024 23:56:25 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way. Neither. We already have both nationalised in Northern Ireland š. I'd pick water because Wales/Scotland also have nationalised rail like us too. Not sure where they stand on water.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jul 12, 2024 6:55:35 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Jul 12, 2024 7:14:42 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way. Railways first as the plan is simply not to renew their licence when the contract falls due. No Capital Investment required to buy them out. On Water no such time limited Licence exists, in the short term actually Regulate and not cut Ofwat Budget by 50% since 2010 but increase it to allow proper monitoring. Fine Water Companies 150% of the cost to clean up any overflows, the Water Companies are either interested in investing in infrastructure to stop this happening or their not. The Policy of the previous Government to limit fines in case Water Companies go bust is ludicrous. Cap Water Charge increases to the rate of inflation, customers should not now pay for upgrading the infrastructure that should have been done previously but instead was paid out in Dividends. If Water Companies go bust or want to walk away from the contract no problem, take back into Public Ownership.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 12, 2024 8:04:41 GMT
In the first instance I completely agree it is a waste of time to send this woman to gaol, I doubt she will in the present climate, but it conforms to Victorian principles for a need for punishment, a bit like the Debtors Prisons. Trying to not stray from your central point I decided to look a bit further as I had no understanding of PIP It seems this lady was being paid Ā£2300 a month PIP because she developed MS in 2005, but the severity of her MS which she exaggerated should only have entitled her to be paid Ā£1600 a month based on some arbitrary points based system via form filling. My understanding is that PIP is not means tested so is not based upon need. There are a whole range of illnesses both physical and mental which qualify for PIP payments PIP on the surface appears to me to be a most stupid system which just doles out money to those who qualify, assessed by Jobsworths unqualified to do so and doesn't address the Medical, Physical, Mental or Monetary needs of the individual. Could someone who understands the PIP system better than I tell me where I'm going wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 9:34:40 GMT
Jailed for an overpayment of Ā£20k over three years. Oh, what a danger to society this woman is. This is why the prison system is so full that they need to release dangerous individuals early. Just give her a fine and make her do community service.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 12, 2024 9:47:15 GMT
Their is mention of re nationalising the railways, but if you had a choice would you choose the railways or the water companies. Just an open question. No bias either way. Railways first as the plan is simply not to renew their licence when the contract falls due. No Capital Investment required to buy them out. On Water no such time limited Licence exists, in the short term actually Regulate and not cut Ofwat Budget by 50% since 2010 but increase it to allow proper monitoring. Fine Water Companies 150% of the cost to clean up any overflows, the Water Companies are either interested in investing in infrastructure to stop this happening or their not. The Policy of the previous Government to limit fines in case Water Companies go bust is ludicrous. Cap Water Charge increases to the rate of inflation, customers should not now pay for upgrading the infrastructure that should have been done previously but instead was paid out in Dividends. If Water Companies go bust or want to walk away from the contract no problem, take back into Public Ownership. Can't argue with that. I remember when the railways were all under our control. It wasn't perfect but it seemed to be a lot better than it is now. If they want people off the roads and onto public transport then they could definitely do something under a long term project. One example is to promote the reintroduction of the local networks which I also remember was quite popular around here. ( shows me age ). Water, like you say is a different prospect but like you pointed out, the water companies have over the years failed to upgrade it's own infrastructure, by as it seems that any money they have has gone in bonuses and dividends.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 12, 2024 9:49:00 GMT
I haven't read it because clicking on The Sentinel website is torturous and irritating. If I understand the comments on here correctly, she's been jailed for an overpayment of Ā£20k over three years. Fraud presumably? Talking of which, let's see how long Michelle Mone or her husband spend behind bars if found guilty of the Ā£122m fraud and bribery investigation currently being carried out by the NCA...I'll have a guess that it's substantially less than eight months, more like zero.
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Post by gawa on Jul 12, 2024 10:07:53 GMT
Still unable to answer simple questions.
There's such a big deal being made on this that it's inevitable a u turn is round the corner now.
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 12, 2024 12:34:28 GMT
Still unable to answer simple questions. There's such a big deal being made on this that it's inevitable a u turn is round the corner now. I don't really understand the high priority on the 2 child cap? Personally I'm unsure why I'm getting child benefit for any of our 3 children - I've had children and it's down to me and my wife to provide for them. We are both on good wages yet bizarrely the government is chipping in too? - surely it should be more of a safety net when circumstances change (e.g. a job loss) like other benefits.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 12, 2024 12:56:27 GMT
Still unable to answer simple questions. There's such a big deal being made on this that it's inevitable a u turn is round the corner now. I think they have a number of priorities which are set by others and anything that benefits the everyday citizen is not one of them. It's not just this. It's just about everything. The only time they may do something that benefits the citizen, is if it benefits someone else even more. Classic example is the PPE fiasco.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 12, 2024 14:32:29 GMT
Jailed for an overpayment of Ā£20k over three years. Oh, what a danger to society this woman is. This is why the prison system is so full that they need to release dangerous individuals early. Just give her a fine and make her do community service. And pay the money back however long it takes.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 12, 2024 16:29:59 GMT
Still unable to answer simple questions. There's such a big deal being made on this that it's inevitable a u turn is round the corner now. I don't really understand the high priority on the 2 child cap? Personally I'm unsure why I'm getting child benefit for any of our 3 children - I've had children and it's down to me and my wife to provide for them. We are both on good wages yet bizarrely the government is chipping in too? - surely it should be more of a safety net when circumstances change (e.g. a job loss) like other benefits. Because according to various children's charities it would lift around 250,000 kids above the poverty line and lessen the impact of poverty of a further 850,000......
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Post by gawa on Jul 12, 2024 19:42:06 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 12, 2024 20:57:14 GMT
I don't really understand the high priority on the 2 child cap? Personally I'm unsure why I'm getting child benefit for any of our 3 children - I've had children and it's down to me and my wife to provide for them. We are both on good wages yet bizarrely the government is chipping in too? - surely it should be more of a safety net when circumstances change (e.g. a job loss) like other benefits. Because according to various children's charities it would lift around 250,000 kids above the poverty line and lessen the impact of poverty of a further 850,000...... Isn't there a problem though in the culture / world we are creating in the UK? If we go down the road of child allowance for 3, 4, 5 children etc, plus breakfasts and lunches paid for , for all children plus generous child care allowances plus other benefits...... doesn't it change the fundamental way that " we" expect or used to expect society to function.....everyone who is able to should be able to work and get a decent wage to support their family? Are we moving to a communist designed society by default. To make it absolutely clear I don't want to see any child or person in poverty or using foodbanks. I don't have any particular answers nor am I advocating anything. I am genuinely asking the question. At one time state intervention was considered to be a safety net. Is that still rhe case? Is there a moral issue for those people, single and couples, who may be childless but simply don't want to contribute to others' lifestyle? Also , are our western expectations a bit unrealistic.... we " need" mobile phones/ technology / other basic material items but expect provision for children to be " free "? I must emphasise I'm not making any judgement, just asking the question.....I'm glad I don't have to bring young children up at this time.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:05:53 GMT
Because according to various children's charities it would lift around 250,000 kids above the poverty line and lessen the impact of poverty of a further 850,000...... Isn't there a problem though in the culture / world we are creating ib rhe UK? If we go down the road of child allowance for 3, 4, 5 children etc, plus breakfasts and lunches paid for , for all children plus generous child care allowances plus other benefits...... doesn't it change the fundamental way that " we" expect or used to expect society to function.....everyone who is able to should be able to work and get a decent wage to support their family? Are we moving to a communist designed society by default. To make it absolutely clear I don't want to see any child or person in poverty or using foodbsnks. I don't have any particular answers nor am I advocating anything. I am genuinely asking the question. At one time state intervention was considered to be a safety net. Is that still rhe case? Is there a moral issue for those people, single and couples, who may be childless but simply don't want to contribute to others lifestyle? Also , are our western expectations a bit unrealistic.... we " need" mobile phones/ technology / other basic material items but expect provision for children to be " free "? I must emphasise I'm not making any judgement, just asking the question.....I'm glad I don't have to bring young children up at this time. Post of the day there matešš»
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