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Post by stokeykez on May 28, 2020 21:52:34 GMT
Will feel that we are all going from a standing start. Although the table will say differently in terms of mentality and momentum we are all equal. I just pray to God stoke go on an unbeaten run, hoping mon tells them to go straight from the blocks to get the points required. I cannot bear a relegation battle after the shit of this year so far.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2020 22:30:58 GMT
I see Liverpool are leading a top 6 revolt against the terms of paying back the TV money. The proposal is paying back on the basis it was paid out, that is the top 6 got most so they pay back most, they want everyone to pay back an equal amount. Unbelievable display of greed and arrogance. I’d tell Sky to get fucked all together tbh.
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Post by somersetstokie on May 28, 2020 23:34:30 GMT
Will feel that we are all going from a standing start. Although the table will say differently in terms of mentality and momentum we are all equal. I just pray to God stoke go on an unbeaten run, hoping mon tells them to go straight from the blocks to get the points required. I cannot bear a relegation battle after the shit of this year so far. Maybe before the actual matches get under way, we need a couple of MOTD Saturday features on "the season so far" just to remind us what happened all those months ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 9:01:25 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on May 29, 2020 9:57:25 GMT
agree In the long run a lot of people would stop watching football on TV if there's no crowds there TV wants full grounds with noisy colourful fans, for them that's part of the product I'm sure you are right. The PL are absolutely clear on this. They want the crowds back just as soon as it's safe to do so. They regard the crowd as an important part of their TV "product". And I think the broadcasters realise this as well. To be fair to the PL they have kept us (the FSA) up to date on developments throughout. They have asked us for views on a number of issues about how it will work and starting this morning FSA staff are ringing our PL affiliate clubs to get feedback on them.
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Post by Tosh on May 29, 2020 9:57:56 GMT
Not sure if this has been suggested, but how many season ticket holders have stoke got? 17000-20000? Would it not be possible to only let 50% of season ticket holders in for a match? 10000, spread out around a stadium that has 30000 capacity, then the other 50% the next game, and so on, no away fans, as other teams could do the same at their home games. No bars or food stands allowed, purely in to watch the game.
This would be better than playing in front of no crowd at all. Safe distance between the fans, and if it helped, face masks would be compulsory.
I know this does not help those who dont have a season ticket, but seeing as the season ticket holders have already paid for them games it seems only right that they, if any, are the ones who should get the chance to go to the game.
Just a thought.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 29, 2020 10:11:26 GMT
What's this all about?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2020 10:13:52 GMT
Stopping fans going to the ground I think.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 29, 2020 10:16:33 GMT
Stopping fans going to the ground I think. I don't get it though. The police are worried that Liverpool fans will travel to Newcastle, so they'll move the game to, I dunno, say, Leicester, and suddenly Liverpool fans wont travel? Or am I just completely missunderstanding this?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2020 10:20:45 GMT
Stopping fans going to the ground I think. I don't get it though. The police are worried that Liverpool fans will travel to Newcastle, so they'll move the game to, I dunno, say, Leicester, and suddenly Liverpool fans wont travel? Or am I just completely missunderstanding this? Good point. No idea!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 10:22:33 GMT
Not sure if this has been suggested, but how many season ticket holders have stoke got? 17000-20000? Would it not be possible to only let 50% of season ticket holders in for a match? 10000, spread out around a stadium that has 30000 capacity, then the other 50% the next game, and so on, no away fans, as other teams could do the same at their home games. No bars or food stands allowed, purely in to watch the game. This would be better than playing in front of no crowd at all. Safe distance between the fans, and if it helped, face masks would be compulsory. I know this does not help those who dont have a season ticket, but seeing as the season ticket holders have already paid for them games it seems only right that they, if any, are the ones who should get the chance to go to the game. Just a thought. We have around 19,500 season ticket holders I believe.....
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Post by stokeoptimist on May 29, 2020 11:27:53 GMT
I wish the season was cancelled. I really fear for us as Stoke really need the crowd to get them going.
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2020 11:36:21 GMT
I don't get it though. The police are worried that Liverpool fans will travel to Newcastle, so they'll move the game to, I dunno, say, Leicester, and suddenly Liverpool fans wont travel? Or am I just completely missunderstanding this? Good point. No idea! I think Newcastle is their last fixture of the season , the rumour seems to be the police also want Liverpool playing at a neutral ground any time they might mathematically win it
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Post by Uncle cheese on May 29, 2020 11:48:36 GMT
I wish the season was cancelled. I really fear for us as Stoke really need the crowd to get them going. The atmosphere at the stadium has been poor for a while. We’ve had players cupping their ears at us in recent times because we’ve been on their backs. It might actually work out better
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 29, 2020 11:49:22 GMT
I think Newcastle is their last fixture of the season , the rumour seems to be the police also want Liverpool playing at a neutral ground any time they might mathematically win it It still doesn't make any sense though. If there are Liverpool fans who will travel to Newcastle to celebrate them winning the league, then they'll travel to Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Southampton or wherever else it is you move the game to. I just don't understand the logic of thinking because they move which ground it's played in, it will somehow stop people travelling?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 12:00:21 GMT
Not seen it on here, but looks like we'll be training and playing on new bowling greens when the season recommences.... New pitchesRenovation work on the playing surface at the bet365 Stadium has taken place over the last few weeks in readiness for a return to Championship action. Following the suspension of the division in mid-March due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Club took the decision to bring forward the work at the stadium. Traditionally scheduled to take place at the end of May, renovation work started in late March and was completed inside a week. Once seeded, the pitch then took only four weeks to rise, with a grow cover enhancing seed germination at a time when frosty nights caused colder ground temperatures. It’s not only at the stadium however where work, completed strictly in line with government guidelines, has taken place in recent weeks. Eleven pitches at Clayton Wood have been renovated in advance of the first team’s return to training on Monday, which is being conducted in line with phase one of the EFL's 'Return to Training Protocols'. Explaining the extensive work which has been undertaken, Grounds Manager Andrew Jackson said: “We started the renovations to the pitch at the stadium at the end of March, so in the second week of lockdown. “As a Club we needed to think long term, not just the rest of this season, but the season after, so we took the decision to take the pitch out at the stadium there and then.” “We obviously had to make sure that we followed the government workplace guidelines and it was a safe environment for the contractors and staff left on site. We had various conference calls and managed to put everything in place set out by the government to do the works. “We renovated the pitch by stripping all the grass and organic material off the pitch, top dressing it and then reseeding it. It was back up and running again for playing matches around the last week of April. “We knew that it could be quite a tight turnaround if the league suddenly decided we would kick back in again but obviously that wasn’t the case in the end. “It could have been the shortest timeframe we’ve had to do the work, but in the end it’s been in the longest. Normally we only have around seven weeks but football has obviously been cancelled for a few weeks longer than that now.” Once work was completed at the stadium, it was the turn of the pitches at Clayton Wood to undergo their annual transformation. Carried out in April and May, the surfaces have been turned around in time for Michael O’Neill’s squad to resume training on Monday. To enable a safe return for staff and players, Jackson outlined some of the measures the grounds staff have put in place across a number of pitches. “We had various meetings about putting the EFL’s protocols in place, and some of the measures we've introduced include placing guidance markers on the pitches, so essentially splitting the pitches up into sections and making it easier for the coaches to ensure that the players are at least the required distance from each other. “The pitches aren’t actually marked out as football pitches as such, they are more like a grid formation so that we can make sure that everyone is at a safe distance and can train safely.” Having completed the works a little earlier than normal, Jackson revealed that it will require the grounds staff to alter the way they work slightly over the next 12 months, but says they have the tools to maintain high-quality surfaces. “The pitch at the stadium is ready to go so we are just keeping it ticking over at the moment,” he said. “Obviously we are coming into the peak growing season now so it’s going to be a busy time for the grounds staff over the course of the next three or four months. “It’s going to a be a different situation to what we are used to in that we will possibly be playing games at the stadium in June and July, when normally that’s when we would be renovating the pitch. “It’s definitely going to require a different thought process for the grounds team throughout the summer.” He added: “Moving forward we will have to make some alterations because the pitches will now stay in place until this time next year. “We will have to alter our thinking a little bit because we are not in a normal situation, but we are lucky that we have the tools to do that. “When we deem it necessary to carry out certain objectives to the pitches we will do that. Until we get the fixture lists in front of us though, we can’t really plan some of the maintenance tasks we need to do.”
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Post by ab61 on May 29, 2020 12:00:28 GMT
Not sure if this has been suggested, but how many season ticket holders have stoke got? 17000-20000? Would it not be possible to only let 50% of season ticket holders in for a match? 10000, spread out around a stadium that has 30000 capacity, then the other 50% the next game, and so on, no away fans, as other teams could do the same at their home games. No bars or food stands allowed, purely in to watch the game. This would be better than playing in front of no crowd at all. Safe distance between the fans, and if it helped, face masks would be compulsory. I know this does not help those who dont have a season ticket, but seeing as the season ticket holders have already paid for them games it seems only right that they, if any, are the ones who should get the chance to go to the game. Just a thought. Won’t happen. For the same reason you can’t take your pint back to your seat. Can’t be trusted. Apparently !
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 29, 2020 12:02:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 12:03:51 GMT
Fuck me they're dragging the arse out of this......
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2020 12:23:02 GMT
I think Newcastle is their last fixture of the season , the rumour seems to be the police also want Liverpool playing at a neutral ground any time they might mathematically win it It still doesn't make any sense though. If there are Liverpool fans who will travel to Newcastle to celebrate them winning the league, then they'll travel to Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Southampton or wherever else it is you move the game to. I just don't understand the logic of thinking because they move which ground it's played in, it will somehow stop people travelling? I’m not sure that it’s all about directly reducing numbers , but also reducing possible conflicts with home supporters ( if game is away ) ..believe they can mathematically win it in Manchester
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2020 12:25:30 GMT
Not sure if this has been suggested, but how many season ticket holders have stoke got? 17000-20000? Would it not be possible to only let 50% of season ticket holders in for a match? 10000, spread out around a stadium that has 30000 capacity, then the other 50% the next game, and so on, no away fans, as other teams could do the same at their home games. No bars or food stands allowed, purely in to watch the game. This would be better than playing in front of no crowd at all. Safe distance between the fans, and if it helped, face masks would be compulsory. I know this does not help those who dont have a season ticket, but seeing as the season ticket holders have already paid for them games it seems only right that they, if any, are the ones who should get the chance to go to the game. Just a thought. Won’t happen. For the same reason you can’t take your pint back to your seat. Can’t be trusted. Apparently ! Would also produce and encourage a huge black market..with plenty of tickets still swilling around ..non starter
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Post by flea79 on May 29, 2020 12:25:36 GMT
agree In the long run a lot of people would stop watching football on TV if there's no crowds there TV wants full grounds with noisy colourful fans, for them that's part of the product I'm sure you are right. The PL are absolutely clear on this. They want the crowds back just as soon as it's safe to do so. They regard the crowd as an important part of their TV "product". And I think the broadcasters realise this as well. To be fair to the PL they have kept us (the FSA) up to date on developments throughout. They have asked us for views on a number of issues about how it will work and starting this morning FSA staff are ringing our PL affiliate clubs to get feedback on them. Sky will not want fans back at all, wet dream for them, we can only watch football by paying them, must be wanking themselves into a coma at the thought, we all realise how badly football fans are treated and this will just carry on
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 29, 2020 14:45:43 GMT
I think Newcastle is their last fixture of the season , the rumour seems to be the police also want Liverpool playing at a neutral ground any time they might mathematically win it It still doesn't make any sense though. If there are Liverpool fans who will travel to Newcastle to celebrate them winning the league, then they'll travel to Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Southampton or wherever else it is you move the game to. I just don't understand the logic of thinking because they move which ground it's played in, it will somehow stop people travelling? I think it's more to do with policing a high number of fans from both sides. Less Newcastle fans will travel to wherever the game is held than Newcastle fans that would attempt to visit St James' Park. No stadiums for fans makes policing much more difficult as there's no contained areas for fans.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 29, 2020 20:44:35 GMT
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Post by spiderpuss on May 29, 2020 21:50:31 GMT
I think Newcastle is their last fixture of the season , the rumour seems to be the police also want Liverpool playing at a neutral ground any time they might mathematically win it It still doesn't make any sense though. If there are Liverpool fans who will travel to Newcastle to celebrate them winning the league, then they'll travel to Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Southampton or wherever else it is you move the game to. I just don't understand the logic of thinking because they move which ground it's played in, it will somehow stop people travelling? It could also go on for a myriad of games. It's not guaranteed that if Liverpool are within 3 points of the title that it would happen on that game. They could be playing at a neutral ground until the last possible game in theory. And let's face it there's plenty of renta-scousers in every town, so it would have to move to Mars before they could guarantee no fans turning up.
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Post by lordb on May 29, 2020 22:28:22 GMT
I'm sure you are right. The PL are absolutely clear on this. They want the crowds back just as soon as it's safe to do so. They regard the crowd as an important part of their TV "product". And I think the broadcasters realise this as well. To be fair to the PL they have kept us (the FSA) up to date on developments throughout. They have asked us for views on a number of issues about how it will work and starting this morning FSA staff are ringing our PL affiliate clubs to get feedback on them. Sky will not want fans back at all, wet dream for them, we can only watch football by paying them, must be wanking themselves into a coma at the thought, we all realise how badly football fans are treated and this will just carry on They want to sell a product Which product will sell more? The one with full or empty grounds?
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2020 22:31:06 GMT
Poland to resume games with limited crowds from 19 June ( think 25% )
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Post by spitthedog on May 29, 2020 23:34:32 GMT
I wish the season was cancelled. I really fear for us as Stoke really need the crowd to get them going. same for others?
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 30, 2020 7:46:48 GMT
I wish the season was cancelled. I really fear for us as Stoke really need the crowd to get them going. How did you come up with your username?
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Post by ohbottom on May 30, 2020 8:05:06 GMT
I wish the season was cancelled. I really fear for us as Stoke really need the crowd to get them going. How did you come up with your username? Presumably it's meant to be ironic...
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