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Post by crapslinger on Mar 14, 2020 19:37:30 GMT
I have never seen live animals available for immediate slaughter to order in the UK have you ? come get your live soon to be dead wolf pups, kola bears, bats, rats here at the "seafood market " funny fucking fish. Yep, we definitely don't kill and sell animals here in the UK. You'd never ever see a lobster boiled to death in a restaurant for example. We also definitely don't have abattoirs, or slaughterers who can come and kill farm animals for you. There are plenty of real issues you could really come at me with socialism and communism, but you decide instead to comment on how 'look how communist China is making all these diseases in its distinctly capitalist markets.' Do we slaughter live animals on "seafood market" stalls in the streets in the UK ?, you are on a loser again all scientific evidence points to the "seafood market" in Wuhan and that it's origins are bats or snakes neither of which are fish by the way, capitalist markets .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 19:40:34 GMT
Yep, we definitely don't kill and sell animals here in the UK. You'd never ever see a lobster boiled to death in a restaurant for example. We also definitely don't have abattoirs, or slaughterers who can come and kill farm animals for you. There are plenty of real issues you could really come at me with socialism and communism, but you decide instead to comment on how 'look how communist China is making all these diseases in its distinctly capitalist markets.' Do we slaughter live animals on "seafood market" stalls in the streets in the UK ?, you are on a loser again all scientific evidence points to the "seafood market" in Wuhan and that it's origins are bats or snakes neither of which are fish by the way, capitalist markets . Right, so with your point there, are you telling me that the problem in the Chinese *markets* is communism?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 14, 2020 19:41:43 GMT
Not really the same is it, I'm pretty sure Doris at Tunstall market has never chopped the head off a live animal and bagged it up for me. Well they literally boil lobsters alive in restaurants? and why is that different to feeding them into a mincer a few days before they're sold in an abattoir? I am starting to pity you I really am.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 14, 2020 19:43:43 GMT
Do we slaughter live animals on "seafood market" stalls in the streets in the UK ?, you are on a loser again all scientific evidence points to the "seafood market" in Wuhan and that it's origins are bats or snakes neither of which are fish by the way, capitalist markets . Right, so with your point there, are you telling me that the problem in the Chinese *markets* is communism? Who regulates the hygiene standards etc. at these "seafood markets" ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 19:45:36 GMT
Right, so with your point there, are you telling me that the problem in the Chinese *markets* is communism? Who regulates the hygiene standards etc. at these "seafood markets" ? I have absolutely no idea. Probably noone considering those wildlife meat sales are illegal. Again though, the problem with *markets* is communism?
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 14, 2020 19:52:00 GMT
Not really the same is it, I'm pretty sure Doris at Tunstall market has never chopped the head off a live animal and bagged it up for me. Well they literally boil lobsters alive in restaurants? and why is that different to feeding them into a mincer a few days before they're sold in an abattoir? They do we even eat live shellfish but if you've been to Asia then you can appreciate the difference. I love SE Asia and hawker markets and I've never been taken I'll at one. However there is a difference between some of the open air markets and I would not buy anything but selected fruit and veg. 100% no way fish or meat sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 19:53:56 GMT
Well they literally boil lobsters alive in restaurants? and why is that different to feeding them into a mincer a few days before they're sold in an abattoir? They do we even eat live shellfish but if you've been to Asia then you can appreciate the difference. I love SE Asia and hawker markets and I've never been taken I'll at one. However there is a difference between some of the open air markets and I would not buy anything but selected fruit and veg. 100% no way fish or meat sorry. Oh absolutely and I understand that, but my gripe is more with Carpslinger blaming it on 'communism' out of nowhere. Which he is inferring is somehow equivalent to Socialism as I posted in my original post.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 14, 2020 19:54:22 GMT
Who regulates the hygiene standards etc. at these "seafood markets" ? I have absolutely no idea. Probably noone considering those wildlife meat sales are illegal. Again though, the problem with *markets* is communism? If they are illegal why are they allowed to carry on operating ? who is responsible for regulating the law ? these "seafood markets" are common in the PRC a communist controlled country you do the maths son, it really isn't rocket science.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 19:59:35 GMT
I have absolutely no idea. Probably noone considering those wildlife meat sales are illegal. Again though, the problem with *markets* is communism? If they are illegal why are they allowed to carry on operating ? who is responsible for regulating the law ? these "seafood markets" are common in the PRC a communist controlled country you do the maths son, it really isn't rocket science. Yes, if it weren't for the Communism in China, absolutely no-one would be trying to cut corners with hygiene to make easy money at a *market*. Famously, capitalism rewards only those who take great care over their hygiene and food standards, and there are certainly no illegal or unsafe markets incentivised by capitalism. I believe it may also provide you with some evidence that China is very much not a communist country.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 14, 2020 21:30:28 GMT
If they are illegal why are they allowed to carry on operating ? who is responsible for regulating the law ? these "seafood markets" are common in the PRC a communist controlled country you do the maths son, it really isn't rocket science. Yes, if it weren't for the Communism in China, absolutely no-one would be trying to cut corners with hygiene to make easy money at a *market*. Famously, capitalism rewards only those who take great care over their hygiene and food standards, and there are certainly no illegal or unsafe markets incentivised by capitalism. I believe it may also provide you with some evidence that China is very much not a communist country. Ok off you go back to cloud cuckoo land, "seafood market "
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 21:36:36 GMT
Yes, if it weren't for the Communism in China, absolutely no-one would be trying to cut corners with hygiene to make easy money at a *market*. Famously, capitalism rewards only those who take great care over their hygiene and food standards, and there are certainly no illegal or unsafe markets incentivised by capitalism. I believe it may also provide you with some evidence that China is very much not a communist country. Ok off you go back to cloud cuckoo land, "seafood market " www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-chinese-wet-market-photos-2020-1?r=US&IR=T
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Post by musik on Mar 14, 2020 21:57:47 GMT
Mankind should learn from this - and not let it be repeated another time. Wild animals alongside dead animals, in endless crowds, a too big mixture.
But most are stupid as hell.
Btw, why is it called "wet market"? What does it mean? No sensible translation on that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 22:05:31 GMT
Mankind should learn from this - and not let it be repeated another time. Wild animals alongside dead animals, in endless crowds, a too big mixture. But most are stupid as hell. Btw, why is it called "wet market"? What does it mean? No sensible translation on that. I think it's probably another word for the fact it's largely seafood. But I agree, we should also learn that things like working from home, sick pay, compassionate employers, mortgage holidays, universal healthcare, and a culture of community rather than stockpiling all the bog roll, are great.
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Post by musik on Mar 14, 2020 22:08:09 GMT
Mankind should learn from this - and not let it be repeated another time. Wild animals alongside dead animals, in endless crowds, a too big mixture. But most are stupid as hell. Btw, why is it called "wet market"? What does it mean? No sensible translation on that. I think it's probably another word for the fact it's largely seafood. But I agree, we should also learn that things like working from home, sick pay, compassionate employers, mortgage holidays, universal healthcare, and a culture of community rather than stockpiling all the bog roll, are great. Yes, but so so many can't work from home. Almost noone I know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 22:10:08 GMT
I think it's probably another word for the fact it's largely seafood. But I agree, we should also learn that things like working from home, sick pay, compassionate employers, mortgage holidays, universal healthcare, and a culture of community rather than stockpiling all the bog roll, are great. Yes, but so so many can't work from home. Almost noone I know. Many can't, you're right, but I'm glad something good can come of this situation in normalising it for those who can. I think we're also learning what life can be like when the population are confused and worried and the government does something controversial.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 14, 2020 22:48:08 GMT
Yes, but so so many can't work from home. Almost noone I know. Many can't, you're right, but I'm glad something good can come of this situation in normalising it for those who can. I think we're also learning what life can be like when the population are confused and worried and the government does something controversial. It's a worry mate I'm not sure what will survive this intact if anything will at all. So many labour intensive businesses could go under and I'm not sure how they can recover.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 15, 2020 10:03:10 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination...
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 15, 2020 10:40:50 GMT
Mankind should learn from this - and not let it be repeated another time. Wild animals alongside dead animals, in endless crowds, a too big mixture. But most are stupid as hell. Btw, why is it called "wet market"? What does it mean? No sensible translation on that. It's called a "wet market" because they slaughter live animals to order on the street, they have never been called "seafood markets" that is Lilfraise's attempt to deflect from what really goes on, all this is allowed to go on apparently openly but illegally ! yet the communist authorities do nothing to stop these vile filthy medieval practises, then people like Lilfrase use the self inflicted Chinese pandemic to criticise how capitalist countries are dealing with it's effect on their own population ! in reality China should be held accountable for this pandemic and have a massive bill to contend with, as good Communists I am sure they will have no issues footing the bill.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 12:34:17 GMT
Mankind should learn from this - and not let it be repeated another time. Wild animals alongside dead animals, in endless crowds, a too big mixture. But most are stupid as hell. Btw, why is it called "wet market"? What does it mean? No sensible translation on that. It's called a "wet market" because they slaughter live animals to order on the street, they have never been called "seafood markets" that is Lilfraise's attempt to deflect from what really goes on, all this is allowed to go on apparently openly but illegally ! yet the communist authorities do nothing to stop these vile filthy medieval practises, then people like Lilfrase use the self inflicted Chinese pandemic to criticise how capitalist countries are dealing with it's effect on their own population ! in reality China should be held accountable for this pandemic and have a massive bill to contend with, as good Communists I am sure they will have no issues footing the bill. I've got no idea what goes on because I've never seen or been to one before, I was using the words on the quoted website. Communism has nothing to do with this pandemic, and in fact, you could very easily say that Capitalism has a lot to answer for in terms of the response. As detailed in my first post with regards to healthcare provision, our lack of action to keep the economy mildly more stable, the fact that most of the things that have always been said to be 'impossible' or 'unaffordable' can almost immediately be removed and revoked. In my opinion, the fragility of our current systems are being exposed quite significantly, before we even get near the peak of the outbreak.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 12:37:05 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination... I have no idea.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 15, 2020 13:47:07 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination... I've always been under the impression that AIDS came through some man/monkey sex thing in Africa, not a clue on Ebola.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 15, 2020 15:14:05 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination... I've always been under the impression that AIDS came through some man/monkey sex thing in Africa, not a clue on Ebola. 🦍+🚶🏼♂️=💀
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Post by georgieboy52 on Mar 15, 2020 15:23:21 GMT
If the economy and banks fail again, Is it still Labour's fault? Seriously though. Covid-19 is potentially making it more and more clear just how fragile our gig economy is. What happens if the worst does happen and the banks start to fail again as they have form for failing when we most need them? Are we rescuing them again through more 'tough decisions'? Who do we blame this time? Is it this time the Tories are are to blame for 'bankrupting' the economy by 'selling the gold' in more public assets than any government in the history of this nation combined? Or is it that we just accept that the neo-liberal economy has utterly failed us? Where would we go from here? Blame the place where the contagion started and why it started.
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Post by zerps on Mar 15, 2020 17:18:58 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination... Somebody fucked a monkey mate. Ffs.
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Post by musik on Mar 15, 2020 21:32:51 GMT
It's called a "wet market" because they slaughter live animals to order on the street, I do know for sure, in some countries they eat just about anything that walks, jumps or crawl ... not the best retention, and I don't think it was meant to be like that - and that's perhaps why a virus like this occur / mother nature speaks ...
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Post by musik on Mar 15, 2020 21:34:20 GMT
Didn’t AIDS & Ebola Come from Wild Meat contamination... I've always been under the impression that AIDS came through some man/monkey sex thing in Africa, not a clue on Ebola. No. It started in Haiti.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 15, 2020 21:39:08 GMT
It's called a "wet market" because they slaughter live animals to order on the street, I do know for sure, in some countries they eat just about anything that walks, jumps or crawl ... not the best retention, and I don't think it was meant to be like that - and that's perhaps why a virus like this occur / mother nature speaks ... Pity mother nature didn't keep their virus confined to the dirty bastards that have caused it.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 15, 2020 21:50:24 GMT
I've always been under the impression that AIDS came through some man/monkey sex thing in Africa, not a clue on Ebola. No. It started in Haiti. I think it was the Congo for HIV/ AIDS mate.
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Post by musik on Mar 15, 2020 22:03:38 GMT
I think it was the Congo for HIV/ AIDS mate. Thanks for info, Franklin! This was news to me. Searched the internet just now and it says Haiti got it in the 60ies (and that's also what we here have learnt in school as the starting point), but scientists apparently near the millenium managed to trace it back to monkeys who got SIV, and they were eaten by humans who got it - and then it was called HIV.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 15, 2020 22:05:10 GMT
I think it was the Congo for HIV/ AIDS mate. Thanks for info, Franklin! This was news to me. Searched the internet just now and it says Haiti got it in the 60ies (and that's also what we here have learnt in school as the starting point), but scientists apparently near the millenium managed to trace it back to monkeys who got SIV, and they were eaten by humans who got it - and then it was called HIV. From wiki pal en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS
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