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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2020 8:37:48 GMT
Pissed off with BBC breakfast turned over to itv Morgan giving Khan a proper going over as why are bus drivers dying In London through lack of ppe Khan's answer well health England and WHO advice they don't need PPE BUT WE ARE DISINFECTING BUSES True labour working for its electorate Fuck me, I've literally heard it all now. You have actual, doctors and nurses saying that PPE is non existent or wank and describing themselves as 'lambs to the slaughter' and you have these hypocritical Tory wankers clapping them on a Thursday night and you blame Labour. Jesus fucking wept
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Post by foster on Apr 8, 2020 8:41:01 GMT
Have you actually read or even browsed through the article? It's says, specifically, EU HEADS OF STATE, ie, Macron, Merkel, Sanchez, Conte, Rutte etc. You got to a special kind of dumb if you don't think this is the time to be collaborating with virtually every country in the world, never mind those who're right on our doorstep. Are prime minster is not a eu head of state There are spelling mistakes and there are grammar mistakes... ...and then there's taking it to a whole new level and using a entirely different fucking word. I salute you.
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Post by theincontinents on Apr 8, 2020 8:41:19 GMT
Are prime minster is not a eu head of state So? He was still entitled to sit on a vitally important meeting. Maybe you could ask waga, how come for all those decades of eu membership leader summits it was always the U.K. prime minister that attended, rather than the queen?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2020 8:42:11 GMT
Little Britain.
I really don't get the attitude of why you wouldn't want to in on these conversations. It's just absolute madness.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 8, 2020 8:43:35 GMT
I read that bit, but didn't see anything that said who set up the meetings and if we had an invite to join, I think that's key to knowing where the journalist was going with the story. The author of that piece is heading up his own arse. Two things... First, the scientific advisors have to make judgement decisions - do they recommend action a, b, c or d. Having decided on “a” they proceed with that. Finding other scientists who would prefer b, c or d ain’t difficult. Presenting their opinion as being evidence that something was wrong with “a” is stupid at this stage. Second, what practical use has the EU meeting been. Every European state, with the exception (currently) of Germany is on the same trajectory. So, there is no evidence that an EU meeting, no matter how many were held, would have made any difference. As said yesterday, some folk are seizing on anything regardless of any supporting evidence, to criticise. They’d be better advised to shut up. Thats unfair I am sure I read Germany took its second lot of 6 patients from Italy recently the EU is really digging deep. I actually found the article oddly reassuring ignoring the EU fluff and the undertone the boffins have got it wrong it pretty much backed up every action and utterance taken has been them following their plan and had the same reasons as given publicly so thats either the best executed cover up in history or they are actually telling the truth and responding to events as they occur, my money is on the later.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 8, 2020 8:46:03 GMT
Little Britain. I really don't get the attitude of why you wouldn't want to in on these conversations. It's just absolute madness. Have you ever had a teleconference if you have you'd know how useful 99% are. Doesnt seem to have been much help amongst the EU coming from these, italy and spain have been left to it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2020 8:47:18 GMT
Little Britain. I really don't get the attitude of why you wouldn't want to in on these conversations. It's just absolute madness. Have you ever had a teleconference if you have you'd know how useful 99% are. Doesnt seem to have been much help amongst the EU coming from these, italy and spain have been left to it. Very? I mean they haven't have they but ok.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 8, 2020 8:47:49 GMT
So? He was still entitled to sit on a vitally important meeting. Maybe you could ask waga, how come for all those decades of eu membership leader summits it was always the U.K. prime minister that attended, rather than the queen? I think his point was we are not in the EU anymore
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2020 8:47:52 GMT
Page 400 of this thread. Still has a way to go to match the 1168 of 'What now for Brexit' on the General Discussion Board which didn't have the advantage of being 'pinned' on the main board. Dunna fret lad, Bayern's on the case
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Post by Gods on Apr 8, 2020 8:48:08 GMT
So? He was still entitled to sit on a vitally important meeting. Maybe you could ask waga, how come for all those decades of eu membership leader summits it was always the U.K. prime minister that attended, rather than the queen? I think he meant we're not in the EU? Although we sort of are until 31st December if that's remains the plan, crazy though it may now seem, if it didn't before and it did.
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 8, 2020 8:48:41 GMT
The drivers are behind full screens & hardly any money changes hands, it’s all contactless. These bus drivers will have caught it by fact of living in London. Nothing to do with their job, other than not self isolating. Much riskier to be a supermarket checkout assistant imo... Fucking hell I have to agree with you on something from what I've read most buses have a handful of people on at the busiest times. Happy to give you a view into the world of PSV...🚌
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2020 8:48:46 GMT
Pissed off with BBC breakfast turned over to itv Morgan giving Khan a proper going over as why are bus drivers dying In London through lack of ppe Khan's answer well health England and WHO advice they don't need PPE BUT WE ARE DISINFECTING BUSES True labour working for its electorate Fuck me, I've literally heard it all now. You have actual, doctors and nurses saying that PPE is non existent or wank and describing themselves as 'lambs to the slaughter' and you have these hypocritical Tory wankers clapping them on a Thursday night and you blame Labour. Jesus fucking wept What the fuck has that got to do with a artical on the news about bus drivers The London mayor was unable to answer the questions with any credibility What is your opinion on Khan But I will say one thing I will take no lessons on the NHS from labour More privatisation than any tory government Over saw more scandles The disastrous new contracts for GPs that has crippled the NHS at weekends And I shall not go to far into the state of the NHS In Wales
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 8, 2020 8:49:35 GMT
Have you ever had a teleconference if you have you'd know how useful 99% are. Doesnt seem to have been much help amongst the EU coming from these, italy and spain have been left to it. Very? I mean they haven't have they but ok. About as useful as a chocolate fireguard I usually find them, how many patients are other eu countries taking from them ? Hoe much kit are they sending to them ?
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2020 8:49:44 GMT
Are prime minster is not a eu head of state There are spelling mistakes and there are grammar mistakes... ...and then there's taking it to a whole new level and using a entirely different fucking word. I salute you. Why thanks
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2020 8:50:49 GMT
Very? I mean they haven't have they but ok. About as useful as a chocolate fireguard I usually find them, how many patients are other eu countries taking from them ? Hoe much kit are they sending to them ? You need to find better people to chat to!
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2020 8:51:01 GMT
I hate to argue with you Partick but would you like to self isolate with the Sugarpill gang? I see one of your alts is back mate Glad to know you're all safe mate and it's good news that there's an army of volunteers out there for those important prescription deliveries to the gang.....
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 8, 2020 8:51:49 GMT
He's a very good interviewer. Always goes on one single point adjacent to what his prey want to talk about. His other great skill which no one else really does is playing back to you the audience what he thinks of the answers and effectively suggezting to you in turn what you might think. It makes for compelling TV. First time I've ever watched him Morgan should be In jail not proporting to be a self elected people’s champion . Put British soldiers lives at risk in the name of circulation without proper research contemptible he’s allowed the role he is he should wear a traitor card Round his neck every day lest people forget
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 8:52:54 GMT
Pissed off with BBC breakfast turned over to itv Morgan giving Khan a proper going over as why are bus drivers dying In London through lack of ppe Khan's answer well health England and WHO advice they don't need PPE BUT WE ARE DISINFECTING BUSES True labour working for its electorate "The lack of PPE in the NHS is a disgrace" - "Don't criticise the government these are unprecedented times" "Bus drivers don't need PPE according to the WHO" - "True Labour working for its electorate"
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 8, 2020 8:53:41 GMT
Thinking a lot this morning about what sort of world we will inhabit once we begin to emerge from the control measures and restrictions that currently affect daily life. This week we have had the first tentative references to an exit strategy to clear the impositions currently in play. We can then move forward and attempt to restore some sense of "normality" to the world. However I believe that a lot of recognized behaviour patterns will have been changed for ever.
Money and cash movements will work quite differently. Apart from the fact that manufacturing industry will be decimated by only a few months of restriction, and we will most probably be heading into a deep global recession, our access to financial services will be significantly changed. People are not being fully or properly paid, if at all, and more families will have to borrow where possible to make ends meet. So we will be faced by quite serious levels of poverty and debt. Even use of money itself will change. Already the small corner shops and newsagents that are open are accepting "card payments only" and are not taking cash or coin, as a health control. It seems that the idea of exchanging money for goods, which was already going out of favour before the crisis, will become a thing of the past, and all transactions will be by credit or debit card only. The concept of contactless payment, which many older people mistrusted, has now become an established thing.
The way we shop will certainly change, Not least because many big name retailers will have gone to the wall, and there will be fewer high street stores in both number and variety. Most trade of goods will take place online, and we will get more used to receiving products by home delivery. Firstly, as it has now become accepted as the main form of shopping, and probably because there will be few alternatives. This acceptance will extend to Supermarket and food shopping, as many potential customers have experienced the delights of home shopping and delivery. The days of the daily shop are now probably gone. Even the excuse for this that it is the only time you get out and meet people some days, has now been shown to be unecessary, with people becoming used to new behavioural patterns.
If we are working, then our routines will certainly change. There is a huge sector of business in the UK that comes under the umbrella of a "service industry", formerly operated through an office environment. This model will change. It will now have been proved that meetings do not require a physical attendance by individuals to be effective, and technology will dictate the way we work in future. Once the crisis is over I fully expect to be told that my presence might only be needed "at work" for perhaps one day a week and I will required to continue running a satellite home office, with all the implications this might have for domestic life and routines.
Whole areas of life will come under review, such as our use of public transport and vehicles. I have not used the car for three weeks, so clearly if I had to I could dispense with it entirely and work totally online. The point is that we are all starting to see things differently and are changing our perceptions of priorities and the pace of life.
Because of what we are experiencing, on this day, at this time, at this moment, and indeeed on each and every day now, change has come to Britiain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 8:54:16 GMT
I read that bit, but didn't see anything that said who set up the meetings and if we had an invite to join, I think that's key to knowing where the journalist was going with the story. The author of that piece is heading up his own arse. Two things... First, the scientific advisors have to make judgement decisions - do they recommend action a, b, c or d. Having decided on “a” they proceed with that. Finding other scientists who would prefer b, c or d ain’t difficult. Presenting their opinion as being evidence that something was wrong with “a” is stupid at this stage. Second, what practical use has the EU meeting been. Every European state, with the exception (currently) of Germany is on the same trajectory. So, there is no evidence that an EU meeting, no matter how many were held, would have made any difference. As said yesterday, some folk are seizing on anything regardless of any supporting evidence, to criticise. They’d be better advised to shut up. You have an unhealthy obsession with people putting their heads up their arses......
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Post by foster on Apr 8, 2020 8:55:14 GMT
The author of that piece is heading up his own arse. Two things... First, the scientific advisors have to make judgement decisions - do they recommend action a, b, c or d. Having decided on “a” they proceed with that. Finding other scientists who would prefer b, c or d ain’t difficult. Presenting their opinion as being evidence that something was wrong with “a” is stupid at this stage. Second, what practical use has the EU meeting been. Every European state, with the exception (currently) of Germany is on the same trajectory. So, there is no evidence that an EU meeting, no matter how many were held, would have made any difference. As said yesterday, some folk are seizing on anything regardless of any supporting evidence, to criticise. They’d be better advised to shut up. Thats unfair I am sure I read Germany took its second lot of 6 patients from Italy recently the EU is really digging deep. I actually found the article oddly reassuring ignoring the EU fluff and the undertone the boffins have got it wrong it pretty much backed up every action and utterance taken has been them following their plan and had the same reasons as given publicly so thats either the best executed cover up in history or they are actually telling the truth and responding to events as they occur, my money is on the later. Look at you using the deaths of the people in Spain and Italy to further your anti-EU agenda. Well done mate. Whether Germany take in 6 or however many people from other countries. They've still helped save lives, which I'm sure even you'd agree, is better than taking none.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2020 8:58:35 GMT
Pissed off with BBC breakfast turned over to itv Morgan giving Khan a proper going over as why are bus drivers dying In London through lack of ppe Khan's answer well health England and WHO advice they don't need PPE BUT WE ARE DISINFECTING BUSES True labour working for its electorate "The lack of PPE in the NHS is a disgrace" - "Don't criticise the government these are unprecedented times" "Bus drivers don't need PPE according to the WHO" - "True Labour working for its electorate" Well did you watch the interview with Khan? stated he had been taking advice off the health England and the world health organisation And had been instructed that it wasn't necessary for bus drivers to have full ppe There was then a couple of harrowing story's where the alleged deep cleaning of the buses hadn't been done properly
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 8, 2020 8:59:00 GMT
About as useful as a chocolate fireguard I usually find them, how many patients are other eu countries taking from them ? Hoe much kit are they sending to them ? You need to find better people to chat to! Well if I had control of the teleconference door I'd improve them by cutting at least 50% of the participants who know fcuk all but senior management dont really appreciate being excluded on this basis In the world cup of pointless teleconferences heads of government would be 1966 now if boffins were talking to each other that might be useful and I am sure they are.
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Post by bertiebigguns on Apr 8, 2020 9:00:37 GMT
It was only a matter of time before the smarmy bunch focused their sanctimonious views and self righteous manner on other users spelling and grammar.
Bored of ridiculing other perspectives and resort to ridiculing the content in which it is presented.
How do you know the poster doesn’t suffer from dyslexia or a form of autism?
The left at their hypocritical best, you know who you are.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2020 9:09:24 GMT
Fuck me, I've literally heard it all now. You have actual, doctors and nurses saying that PPE is non existent or wank and describing themselves as 'lambs to the slaughter' and you have these hypocritical Tory wankers clapping them on a Thursday night and you blame Labour. Jesus fucking wept What the fuck has that got to do with a artical on the news about bus drivers The London mayor was unable to answer the questions with any credibility What is your opinion on Khan But I will say one thing I will take no lessons on the NHS from labour More privatisation than any tory government Over saw more scandles The disastrous new contracts for GPs that has crippled the NHS at weekends And I shall not go to far into the state of the NHS In Wales Here is the moment two years ago where Tory MP's including some of those currently receiving treatment cheered narrowly winning a vote to keep the cap on nurses pay rises to 1%. And they have the brass fucking neck to clap them. Makes my fucking tits ache.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2020 9:09:58 GMT
In case it has escaped your attention WE HAVE LEFT Have you actually read or even browsed through the article? It's says, specifically, EU HEADS OF STATE, ie, Macron, Merkel, Sanchez, Conte, Rutte etc. You got to a special kind of dumb if you don't think this is the time to be collaborating with virtually every country in the world, never mind those who're right on our doorstep. The EUs chief scientist has resigned due to the way Brussels has handled the covid 19 crisis The eu wasn't up to the job Just as well we didn't attend in the end
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 8, 2020 9:10:21 GMT
Pissed off with BBC breakfast turned over to itv Morgan giving Khan a proper going over as why are bus drivers dying In London through lack of ppe Khan's answer well health England and WHO advice they don't need PPE BUT WE ARE DISINFECTING BUSES True labour working for its electorate Shere Khan has been a disaster. HQ here. Good work Batfinder - lovely word play alluding to the sub-continental menace of a much feared cartoon tiger. The stuff of childhood nightmares that nicely brings in denigration of yet another racial group while maintaining focus, for now, on the yellow peril. Your man made virus Dr Fang vampire bat allusion brilliantly combined the Far Eastern menace of Fu Manchu and the Eastern European menace of Dracula but having exhausted the hate group potential of bats have you had any thoughts about bringing the Pangolin Connection into play? Possibly a vector for introducing the Islamic angle - after all the collective noun for a group of pangolins is a mosque. It isn't - but facts, like scientific evidence, will play very little part in the New Truth so people may as well get used to it. Things are going pretty well back at HQ. The lads are keeping fit by on-line synchronised goose stepping to old Jane Fonda videos. An inspiring sight which unfortunately has played havoc with Derek's hernia. Still casualties are inevitable in the war against respect and tolerance. Bit of a problem with bat ducking stool consignment. Janice in logistics had a bit of a mishap with the tippex and the labels went out as "Bat Stool". Those pinko's in HMRC went livid at us for apparently trying to send bat shit to China. Apparently this is considered highly insensitive by those liberal lefties currently in power. But don't worry Batfinder our time will come. We've re-routed the consignment via Amazon so should be with you soon. HQ over and out.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 8, 2020 9:10:21 GMT
The author of that piece is heading up his own arse. Two things... First, the scientific advisors have to make judgement decisions - do they recommend action a, b, c or d. Having decided on “a” they proceed with that. Finding other scientists who would prefer b, c or d ain’t difficult. Presenting their opinion as being evidence that something was wrong with “a” is stupid at this stage. Second, what practical use has the EU meeting been. Every European state, with the exception (currently) of Germany is on the same trajectory. So, there is no evidence that an EU meeting, no matter how many were held, would have made any difference. As said yesterday, some folk are seizing on anything regardless of any supporting evidence, to criticise. They’d be better advised to shut up. You have an unhealthy obsession with people putting their heads up their arses...... I blame lockdown,
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Post by Northy on Apr 8, 2020 9:10:36 GMT
Are prime minster is not a eu head of state There are spelling mistakes and there are grammar mistakes... ...and then there's taking it to a whole new level and using a entirely different fucking word. I salute you. Foster, shouldn't that be 'an' in front of entirely and not 'a'?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 9:12:13 GMT
"The lack of PPE in the NHS is a disgrace" - "Don't criticise the government these are unprecedented times" "Bus drivers don't need PPE according to the WHO" - "True Labour working for its electorate" Well did you watch the interview with Khan? stated he had been taking advice off the health England and the world health organisation And had been instructed that it wasn't necessary for bus drivers to have full ppe There was then a couple of harrowing story's where the alleged deep cleaning of the buses hadn't been done properly You've accused people criticising government strategy of politicising things then just done that as the Mayor of London is a Labour politician. I didn't see the interview, but for the record I think Khan has been slow to focus his attention on knife crime even though police cuts has played a significant part in the increase. He should have made it his number one priority and it seemed to me like it wasn't. So I would be extremely critical of him on that point. I don't know enough about other issues specific to London to praise or criticise him, but as a politician I would put him in the "all fur coat and no knickers" category.....
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