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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 31, 2020 18:14:43 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the rate of posting on this thread slowing down? Suppressing the curve.
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Post by stokeson on Mar 31, 2020 18:14:55 GMT
No re-agent for testing kits .Numbers being moved around .Not even sure if the testing kits (lateral flow.) will show correct results and are being sent back.Who is running this shitshow......
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2020 18:20:31 GMT
I think you missed the point again! I'm not saying the Chinese Govt is not secretive in any way. I'm saying the evidence is there that this was out in the open months ago regardless of what the Chinese Govt was doing internally. That is, giving plenty of time to act and put in measures. There was nervousness in this country about this at the end of December when we knew a) it is deadly b) there is no existing cure. If you are allowing flights to come in freely from China at that stage knowing this is the case, it doesn't take an expert to tell you what is going to happen. I had 2 students flying in from Wuhan at the end of January with no restrictions on either side. Making out that if it wasn't for China's secretiveness we could have acted before is clearly high work of fiction and an attempt to deflect away from the very casual and in fact, deadly, Business As Usual approach that lasted until past mid March. Surely letting flights to continue out of the country knowing the nature of this virus was the unacceptable thing to do, they deliberately tried to cover this up that is a fact, whether there oppression of the truth cost the rest of the World is not up for debate, as I said before hopefully this will eventually come to an end then the WHO need to find the source of this and the truth behind the cover up from the Chinese authorities and act accordingly. There are flights coming in from China every day this week to this country. If letting flights out is unacceptable, then how unacceptable is letting flights in?......which is what we have been doing since December? We have let thousands come into this country with zero tests and continue to do so. There are 2 flights due in from Beijing in the next 1 hour!!! If you fancy going the other (those unacceptable flights to China that are still running) you will have to go into forced quarantine for 14 days (not your own home either!) There are still flights coming in to this country from Italy, China and New York without any checks at all, all piling onto public transport. Yet we are more bothered about someone going for a swim in a remote lagoon in Derbyshire. (Never thought I would agree with Nigel Farage!) Sometimes it's useful to ask questions that need answering closer to home
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 31, 2020 18:22:15 GMT
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Post by whakka on Mar 31, 2020 18:22:49 GMT
Has their ever being a journalist more in love with the sound of his own voice than Robert-fucking-Peston? 3 questions in his annoying elongated, exaggerated style just makes you want to put your foot through the telly...... Cant stand him. Always likes to give the impression he is intellectually superior, knows more than anyone else and we should all stop what we are doing and listen to him because he is so bloody important. like a few on here
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 31, 2020 18:26:44 GMT
So Gove has been lying....again.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 31, 2020 18:28:37 GMT
So Gove has been lying....again. The only surprising thing is that anyone would be surprised by Gove acting thus.
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Post by stokeson on Mar 31, 2020 18:33:12 GMT
How can he go on TV and Lie and the media report it. Someone is moving us in a direction he wants .I wonder who?
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Post by henry on Mar 31, 2020 18:39:18 GMT
So Gove has been lying....again. If its true, and it does look like it is, it's fucking shameful.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2020 18:40:08 GMT
I get a sense that people are totally losing confidence in what they are being told by this Government , which is in normal situation is fine, but in this situation is very dangerous.
Farage has been saying the same today. (and i'm no fan!)
Its either incompetence, them making it up as they go along, or something more predetermined and opportunist.
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Mar 31, 2020 18:46:43 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the rate of posting on this thread slowing down? But all I found was Cigarettes and alcohol
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 31, 2020 18:47:52 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Mar 31, 2020 18:49:45 GMT
I get a sense that people are totally losing confidence in what they are being told by this Government , which is in normal situation is fine, but in this situation is very dangerous. Farage has been saying the same today. (and i'm no fan!) Its either incompetence, them making it up as they go along, or something more predetermined and opportunist. They are making it up as they go along, to the obvious despair of the experts.
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Post by henry on Mar 31, 2020 18:50:02 GMT
What are the odds of Gove becoming the next one to "develop symptoms"
Some other arsehole (Grant Shapps) was on GMB this morning, he didn't know about Ocado buying loads of test kits, and also thought Germany has had more Covid 19 deaths than the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 18:58:11 GMT
What are the odds of Gove becoming the next one to "develop symptoms" Some other arsehole (Grant Shapps) was on GMB this morning, he didn't know about Ocado buying loads of test kits, and also thought Germany has had more Covid 19 deaths than the UK. Shapps is up there with Grayling in the fuckwittery stakes.....
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 31, 2020 19:01:00 GMT
It doesn't how does criticising other governments help right now, if the Chinese had been honest and truthful the rest of the World would have had at least another month to prepare for this shit storm. The Chinese Govt couldn't have been that secretive. I was getting emails from nearly all my Chinese students (I teach about 35 of them) over Xmas saying that classes and exams at the end of January should be postponed and the University should be closed down because of this virus and the dangers from students mixing, relating horror stories from China. They were all wearing masks then and nervous about socially interacting These were all forwarded to the University who I know for a fact were forwarding this on to Govt bodies (as Unis follow Gov't guidelines) To their horror, they were being told very assertively that the British Govt guideline was BUSINESS AS USUAL. They were told they would fail if they did not attend exams. Chinese students are notoriously patriotic in fact some of them are sponsored directly by their Gov't. They would not being saying anything that their Gov't would want them to say. They never do. They are carefully monitored. In January though Chinese students were still freely flying back and forth from China to UK without any checks some of them to the Wuhan region. If they were aware of it, then I'm damn sure our Gov't were aware of the dangers we were about to face. 2 months later we were still being told it was ok to shake hands. Do you think the virus was going around here as early as Jan?lots of chinese students in Glasgow and lots of people saying they were really ill in January and Feb. I went to hospital at the beginning of Feb myself to get oxygen, I had a terrible cough and breathlessness.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 31, 2020 19:03:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 19:08:38 GMT
I'm starting to feel very uncomfortable with direction this is going.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 31, 2020 19:17:32 GMT
Over the years there has been criticism of the young for spending too long in isolation, on the internet and not having real " friends".....perhaps they are better prepared for the current situation.
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Post by Gods on Mar 31, 2020 19:20:31 GMT
What is the answer to this crisis if it is not 'herd immunity' ?
At the moment all any country is doing is playing for time.
Perhaps they are the 2 words that can't be spoken but quietly and with every passing day it must be building up. Thankfully.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 31, 2020 19:23:15 GMT
I'm starting to feel very uncomfortable with direction this is going. Is that because the media only ever report on the negative? I know a nurse who works at a hospital in Cheshire and a doctor at blackburn and neither of them are complaining about a lack of PPE. They've had sufficient and multiple deliveries of equipment and the supposed rare as rocking horse shit, sanitizer. It feels like the end of the world is nigh and the media is majorly culpable for this. Its exhausting and the media, with their pathetic questioning during the conferences are doing little to help.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2020 19:27:03 GMT
Over the years there has been criticism of the young for spending too long in isolation, on the internet and not having real " friends".....perhaps they are better prepared for the current situation. Another thing that should come out of this too. Corbyn was right (and that pains me to say cos he’s clearly a twat), the Internet is a utility and not a luxury.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 31, 2020 19:33:57 GMT
What's this, a post that isn't filled with doom & gloom or party politics?!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 19:47:16 GMT
13 year old died in London.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 19:48:43 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 31, 2020 19:53:35 GMT
Surely letting flights to continue out of the country knowing the nature of this virus was the unacceptable thing to do, they deliberately tried to cover this up that is a fact, whether there oppression of the truth cost the rest of the World is not up for debate, as I said before hopefully this will eventually come to an end then the WHO need to find the source of this and the truth behind the cover up from the Chinese authorities and act accordingly. There are flights coming in from China every day this week to this country. If letting flights out is unacceptable, then how unacceptable is letting flights in?......which is what we have been doing since December? We have let thousands come into this country with zero tests and continue to do so. There are 2 flights due in from Beijing in the next 1 hour!!! If you fancy going the other (those unacceptable flights to China that are still running) you will have to go into forced quarantine for 14 days (not your own home either!) There are still flights coming in to this country from Italy, China and New York without any checks at all, all piling onto public transport. Yet we are more bothered about someone going for a swim in a remote lagoon in Derbyshire. (Never thought I would agree with Nigel Farage!) Sometimes it's useful to ask questions that need answering closer to home Totally agree we should have no flights coming into the UK for at least 6 months, still does not alter the fact that the Chinese allowed their people to leave during a pandemic that they lied about and covered up that is a fact.
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Post by whakka on Mar 31, 2020 19:54:25 GMT
I get a sense that people are totally losing confidence in what they are being told by this Government , which is in normal situation is fine, but in this situation is very dangerous. Farage has been saying the same today. (and i'm no fan!) Its either incompetence, them making it up as they go along, or something more predetermined and opportunist. They are making it up as they go along, to the obvious despair of the experts. thank god we have real experts like yourself to enlighten us
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2020 19:59:53 GMT
The Chinese Govt couldn't have been that secretive. I was getting emails from nearly all my Chinese students (I teach about 35 of them) over Xmas saying that classes and exams at the end of January should be postponed and the University should be closed down because of this virus and the dangers from students mixing, relating horror stories from China. They were all wearing masks then and nervous about socially interacting These were all forwarded to the University who I know for a fact were forwarding this on to Govt bodies (as Unis follow Gov't guidelines) To their horror, they were being told very assertively that the British Govt guideline was BUSINESS AS USUAL. They were told they would fail if they did not attend exams. Chinese students are notoriously patriotic in fact some of them are sponsored directly by their Gov't. They would not being saying anything that their Gov't would want them to say. They never do. They are carefully monitored. In January though Chinese students were still freely flying back and forth from China to UK without any checks some of them to the Wuhan region. If they were aware of it, then I'm damn sure our Gov't were aware of the dangers we were about to face. 2 months later we were still being told it was ok to shake hands. Do you think the virus was going around here as early as Jan?lots of chinese students in Glasgow and lots of people saying they were really ill in January and Feb. I went to hospital at the beginning of Feb myself to get oxygen, I had a terrible cough and breathlessness. Well the Chinese students in the Uni were convinced it was here, and couldn't believe that it was not being taken seriously. I had emails over Xmas asking what steps the University were taking to deal with it. I'm sure there will be some remarks about irony of the Chinese alerting to the fact, but this is what was happening. By the beginning of January I was receiving emails saying that the students did not want to share resources or to attend classes. I was questioned by the students why I wasn't wearing a mask for example. I got a terrible flu in the second week of January the worst I have ever had in my life. I was completely out of for over a week. We had our exams in the third week of January and students were saying they didn't want to attend. The University insisted on it going ahead, but I know some of the students were terrified about it by then and were already wanting to self isolate. I have some very dramatic emails in my inbox mid January which I forwarded to management.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2020 20:04:54 GMT
They are making it up as they go along, to the obvious despair of the experts. thank god we have real experts like yourself to enlighten us "Briton's have had enough of experts" Michael Gove
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 31, 2020 20:07:31 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the rate of posting on this thread slowing down? Flattened the sombrero.
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