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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 14:33:49 GMT
Who remembers Priti Patel claiming back in January anyone earning under 25k was an unskilled worker? And now just a short while later our nurses and carers are key workers. Fake news again. Average salary hurses £33898. www.reed.co.uk/average-salary/average-nurse-salaryThey start on less than 25k you dope, do you know how averages work? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 14:36:23 GMT
159 more deaths in England
The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus is now 1,284, a rise of 159, NHS England said.
Those who died were aged between 32 and 98 years old.
Almost all patients had underlying health conditions – the four people who did not were aged between 56 and 87 years old.
NHS England confirmed their families had been informed.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 14:39:36 GMT
Surely your stance is that these people shouldn't be shopping for Easter Eggs? They are hardly essential are they? I'm tempted to pop to Halfords to buy a bike for my little one. Seems like the perfect opportunity to teach him to ride one. It's not essential but if I'm adhering to Social Distancing guidelines there isn't much wrong with it is there? My stance is that the government haven't said what's essential foodwise and if you're in a shop shopping for food anyway and there's an Easter egg it is doing fuck all harm. What if they went to shop and came out only with an easter egg? |
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Post by AlliG on Mar 30, 2020 14:39:54 GMT
The vast majority of 'skilled jobs' are insignificant in the grand scheme of things, and I would class my job as one of those. I think I'd get much more job satisfaction doing something that actually really mattered and made a difference. If there were a nuclear holocaust tomorrow and we ended up in a kind of Mad Max style society, I'd much rather team up with a cleaner, nurse and butcher, than a footballer, politician and investment banker. The low skills are more often than not the most important skills. Unfortunately there are an abundance of wankers in privileged positions and with a false sense of worth who look down on and scoff at those at the bottom of the pyramid. Thats pretty interesting Foster. Max Brooks touches on a similar thing in World War Z when he talks about how in his apocalypse lawyers, consultants, accountants etc actually aren't relevant skills whereas mechanics, cleaners etc are the valuable skills as they can keep the world moving so everything gets reversed. I think most of us would have ended up on the B Ark.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 14:41:56 GMT
My stance is that the government haven't said what's essential foodwise and if you're in a shop shopping for food anyway and there's an Easter egg it is doing fuck all harm. What if they went to shop and came out only with an easter egg? I really couldn't give a fuck, it's an Easter egg at Easter. I think if it helps people to add a bit of normality to this shit time then crack on. |
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Post by Gods on Mar 30, 2020 14:44:21 GMT
159 more deaths in England The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus is now 1,284, a rise of 159, NHS England said. Those who died were aged between 32 and 98 years old. Almost all patients had underlying health conditions – the four people who did not were aged between 56 and 87 years old. NHS England confirmed their families had been informed. Down on the last 2 days where I think we were 200+? I think I read in the only study of any size in Italy the median age for CV death was 80. Men 2x more likely to die than women. Initially when we only had numbers from China it was thought to be smoking related 50% of men smoke in China compared to 2% of women. But the trend is also x2 in Europe and the smoking numbers similar, so now looking at lifestyle and perhaps differences in immune systems. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 14:49:31 GMT
159 more deaths in England The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus is now 1,284, a rise of 159, NHS England said. Those who died were aged between 32 and 98 years old. Almost all patients had underlying health conditions – the four people who did not were aged between 56 and 87 years old. NHS England confirmed their families had been informed. Down on the last 2 days where I think we were 200+? Yup but got to add Wales, Scotland and NI. So 14, 6 and haven't seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 14:49:57 GMT
What if they went to shop and came out only with an easter egg? I really couldn't give a fuck, it's an Easter egg at Easter. I think if it helps people to add a bit of normality to this shit time then crack on. Maybe if this shit is still going on in 9 months we’ll have to tell the kids Santa contracted corona and didn’t make it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 14:52:37 GMT
Down on the last 2 days where I think we were 200+? Yup but got to add Wales, Scotland and NI. So 14, 6 and haven't seen. 187 total. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 30, 2020 14:54:14 GMT
So basically you want authoritarian regimes to be more authoritarian? So what about non-authoritarian regimes? Should they be less authoritarian? How should the Brazilian government deal with the Tree Frog/Howler Monkey/Danish Tourist issue? Crack down on Danes, Howler Monkeys or Tree Frogs? The point I'm making is closing Chinese wet markets isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to the next pandemic. A prospective tree frog virus isn't going to stop mutating because Sweet and Sour Pangolin is no longer on the menu in Beijing. Sorry but shit happens and the very idea that all shit can be prevented from happening is bollocks. All you do is stop certain type of shit happening only for a different type of shit to happen where you least expect it. Certainly don't make the same mistakes over and over again but to expect finding someone to blame will somehow solve the problem of shit happening is bonkers - in fact it's exactly the sort of logic that led to Matthew Hopkins wandering the countryside as The Witchfinder General burning witches in order to prevent crop failure and an outbreak of warts, The desire to find someone to blame is basically a pre-scientific mode of thinking that inevitably leads to the persecution of "foreigners" - whether foreign is a different gender, sexuality, colour, race. nationality, religion whatever. And they are some pretty evil bastards out there who will jump on any opportunity to spread their small minded bigotry. I don't think you are one of them - just be careful of the path you choose to travel and the company you choose to keep. I think they've picked and chosen where to be when it comes to these markets. They're clearly commonplace over there despite being illegal and that seems odd. The rest of what you have wrote re that matter is superficial twaddle and you know it! It will stop an area that was open to this kind of thing happening in its tracks and that can only help. As will stopping deforestation and mankinds ever increasing creep into the wilderness. It does happen, so mitigate it. Scientists have known that these places are breeding grounds for this sort of thing. No one is saying it can all be prevented, indeed the only one suggesting that is you. The desire to find things to blame is the search of the truth and how to limit their impacts in the future and to learn from it. I don't want anyone persecuting, I genuinely think there could be evidence for prosecution mind within the British govt. Indeed so far the only person persercuted was the poor bloke that alerted the Chinese authorities to this. That is the last thing I want. And you don't need to warn me about that but head in the sandism isn't my thing and the Chinese government need calling out on a lot of things. This being one of them. Interesting take here linkThe conclusion appears to be that if the Chinese government were to crack down on wet markets (as you suggest) it would drive the trade underground and make cross species contamination more likely as part of the food chain would avoid regulation. This makes sense - no authoritarian regime has ever been totally successful and whenever a government tries to ban something people have a habit of working round it. It's a bit bizarre to blame China for not being authoritarian enough when being authoritarian actually causes the problem you are trying to stamp out. Maybe the solution would be to invite China to take up the place we've vacated in the EU to help bring China's food standards up to scratch while we suck up to the US in exchange for some chlorinated chicken. What's not to like? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 30, 2020 15:02:38 GMT
Yup but got to add Wales, Scotland and NI. So 14, 6 and haven't seen. 187 total. Far far to many But as I read it that's the third day on the trot deaths have gone down Where at the same time in Italy it had continued to rise |
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Post by starkiller on Mar 30, 2020 15:03:58 GMT
Johnson's original plan of isolating the most vulnerable, whilst everyone else just got on, was the most appropriate.
But then other advisors and the media ramped up the fear and the panic in the public to force his hand.
This absolutely ridiculous totalitarian response, based on China, was always the globalist plan. A complete overreaction, with laws that may never be rescinded. This is of way more concern than the actual virus.
Soon, it will be forced tracking, and forced vaccination. And an ability bring in these lockdown measures anytime, and even more draconian. That's the scariest thing about it all. And barely a whimper from the majority.
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 30, 2020 15:06:29 GMT
Far far to many But as I read it that's the third day on the trot deaths have gone down Where at the same time in Italy it had continued to rise It'll jump tomorrow, it seems to jump every 3 days unfortunately. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:06:53 GMT
Johnson's original plan of isolating the most vulnerable, whilst everyone else just got on, was the most appropriate. But then other advisors and the media ramped up the fear and the panic in the public to force his hand. This absolutely ridiculous totalitarian response, based on China, was always the globalist plan. A complete overreaction, with laws that may never be rescinded. This is of way more concern than the actual virus. Soon, it will be forced tracking, and forced vaccination. And an ability bring in these lockdown measures anytime, and even more draconian. That's the scariest thing about it all. And barely a whimper from the majority. I don’t want to believe it. I would genuinely prefer that we are facing an unprecedented pandemic with wholly natural origins, but I can’t help but have these same fears. It would not surprise me if this virus was created, but not by the Chinese... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 30, 2020 15:07:12 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 30, 2020 15:09:17 GMT
Johnson's original plan of isolating the most vulnerable, whilst everyone else just got on, was the most appropriate. But then other advisors and the media ramped up the fear and the panic in the public to force his hand. This absolutely ridiculous totalitarian response, based on China, was always the globalist plan. A complete overreaction, with laws that may never be rescinded. This is of way more concern than the actual virus. Soon, it will be forced tracking, and forced vaccination. And an ability bring in these lockdown measures anytime, and even more draconian. That's the scariest thing about it all. And barely a whimper from the majority. Out of interest who are the 'globalist planners' collaborating on this? |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 30, 2020 15:10:34 GMT
medium.com/@greenrupertread/the-coronavirus-letter-youve-just-been-sent-by-johnson-is-a-lie-transcript-824e71aa73bDr. Rupert Read The coronavirus letter you’ve just been sent by Johnson is a lie [00:00:00] Fellow citizens of this great country of Britain, I’m here to tell you that you’re about to be deceived deliberately by your own government. [00:00:11] A letter will soon come through your door from them, telling you that unless you get more serious about locking down, the government is going to tighten the lockdown that we are all under. They are trying to put the blame on you for this public health disaster of the Coronavirus and for the lockdown needed, it is indeed needed, in response to that disaster. In the letter, Prime Minister Johnson says, quote, “From the start, we, the government have sought to put in the right measures at the right time”. [00:00:42] The truth is very different. The truth is that the government have, for two months, systematically flouted World Health Organisation advice on how to deal with this pandemic and that in some respects they are still doing so now. [00:00:58] My name is Dr Rupert Read, a few weeks ago, I coordinated a letter; a version of which was published in The Daily Mail. It was signed by the editor of Britain’s foremost medical journal, The Lancet, and by the former chair of the House of Commons Science Select Committee. Now the government should have acted well before receiving our letter. They should have moved already to stop flights coming in from Italy and China. They should have quarantined those possibly having the virus. They should have ordered in ventilators and personal protective equipment for carers. They should have begun a mass program of testing. They should have provided enough to live on to all those tempted to work sick. But even after receiving a letter and even after being told firmly by the World Health Organisation that they were letting everyone down through their inactivity, they still did virtually nothing. [00:01:50] Now, of course, I’m not saying that dealing with this virus crisis is easy. Far from it. I don’t envy the governments and their advisers in their unprecedented task here. But the unprecedentedness of the task is exactly why we needed them to take strong action to protect us and to stay ahead of the curve and exactly why you deserve honesty from them now. The truth is, we didn’t get what we deserve. We didn’t get strong action to protect us. Instead, they wasted weeks on end and then cooked up their utterly disastrous herd immunity plan to infect most of us with this sometimes-deadly disease. And we’re still not getting honesty about all this now. The government are not telling us the truth about why a harsher lockdown may be needed. [00:02:44] South Korea came through this with no lockdown at all because they acted fast ahead of the virus to mass test, to contact trace, to physically distance. Think about that. South Korea showed the way. The difference between them and us; government policy. [00:03:05] The truth is that a hard lockdown is needed now, not for the reason the government is insinuating; they’re trying to blame us, the people, for the mess they created. Do not let Johnson get away with putting the blame for this horrific crisis that we’re now in, on you. The truth is that they, the government, are primarily to blame for the tsunami of infections and the torrent of deaths that Britain is still at the relatively early stages of. They, the government, have not done their first job. They have not protected us. A well-placed source has indicated to colleagues of mine that the Chief Medical Officer was ready some time ago to put in place tougher measures for physical distancing and so on and that these were vetoed at the last minute by the Prime Minister. A Prime Minister who showed leadership by shaking hands with hospital patients in a hospital where they were Coronavirus cases just a few weeks ago. [00:04:06] Now, if you happen to be someone who has privileged information that you could use to blow the whistle on the full truth about what our own government has done to us, then please go to www.truthteller.life. We all deserve to know the full facts. [00:04:26] We the people have led in this country and we’ve dragged our reluctant government behind us. That’s the truth. We led by pushing the government finally to act. We led already before that, many millions of us, by cancelling events, working from home, initiating physical distancing, before the government had done anything significant to protect us. And we’re leading now by being there for each other, by supporting our beloved NHS and by demanding that our carers get the personal protective equipment they so desperately need and deserve. We refused to go quietly and meekly into the tsunami of suffering that is coming, a torrent of death that is coming because our government fiddled while the world started to burn. And because for a while, our government’s ludicrous and deadly herd immunity plan meant that we had the most inactive and indeed actively harmful government policy in the whole world on the Coronavirus pandemic. [00:05:29] Why does all this matter? Am I just crying over spilt milk? It matters because thousands are dying unnecessarily and it matters because we’re still only at the relatively early stages of this emergency and we’re going to need much better leadership to get through it. We will get through this, though not before the government’s prevarication has cost large numbers of British lives. We’ll get through this together. And when we got through it, we’ll memorialize the dead by making damn sure that nothing like this deadly fiasco can ever happen again. And to make sure of that, we’ll need to start with a full public inquiry into how our government came to have the worst policy of inaction on Coronavirus in the whole world; a policy that will have killed many of our loved ones. A policy that means that a harsh and knock-down lockdown may indeed now be necessary. [00:06:27] It is government policy which has led to the desperate situation we are now in. If a fuller lockdown comes, this will be because they did not act and they must take responsibility for that. They must take responsibility for the need for any harsher lockdown soon to come. [00:06:52] Thank you for watching. If you agree with this video, then please share it. And please stay safe. When the government doesn’t protect, we the people have to lead the way.
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Post by Gods on Mar 30, 2020 15:12:44 GMT
Far far to many But as I read it that's the third day on the trot deaths have gone down Where at the same time in Italy it had continued to rise Still hoping to come on at somewhere in the range of 5,800 to 20,000 aren't we ? While mass deaths are never ideal, in the circumstances if we did it would perhaps be seen as something of a result, particularly if we don't sink the NHS in the process. There are no good outcomes. |
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 30, 2020 15:15:54 GMT
I think they've picked and chosen where to be when it comes to these markets. They're clearly commonplace over there despite being illegal and that seems odd. The rest of what you have wrote re that matter is superficial twaddle and you know it! It will stop an area that was open to this kind of thing happening in its tracks and that can only help. As will stopping deforestation and mankinds ever increasing creep into the wilderness. It does happen, so mitigate it. Scientists have known that these places are breeding grounds for this sort of thing. No one is saying it can all be prevented, indeed the only one suggesting that is you. The desire to find things to blame is the search of the truth and how to limit their impacts in the future and to learn from it. I don't want anyone persecuting, I genuinely think there could be evidence for prosecution mind within the British govt. Indeed so far the only person persercuted was the poor bloke that alerted the Chinese authorities to this. That is the last thing I want. And you don't need to warn me about that but head in the sandism isn't my thing and the Chinese government need calling out on a lot of things. This being one of them. Interesting take here linkThe conclusion appears to be that if the Chinese government were to crack down on wet markets (as you suggest) it would drive the trade underground and make cross species contamination more likely as part of the food chain would avoid regulation. This makes sense - no authoritarian regime has ever been totally successful and whenever a government tries to ban something people have a habit of working round it. It's a bit bizarre to blame China for not being authoritarian enough when being authoritarian actually causes the problem you are trying to stamp out. Maybe the solution would be to invite China to take up the place we've vacated in the EU to help bring China's food standards up to scratch while we suck up to the US in exchange for some chlorinated chicken. What's not to like? If only the Chinese had chlorinated their bats. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 30, 2020 15:17:41 GMT
medium.com/@greenrupertread/the-coronavirus-letter-youve-just-been-sent-by-johnson-is-a-lie-transcript-824e71aa73bDr. Rupert Read The coronavirus letter you’ve just been sent by Johnson is a lie [00:00:00] Fellow citizens of this great country of Britain, I’m here to tell you that you’re about to be deceived deliberately by your own government. [00:00:11] A letter will soon come through your door from them, telling you that unless you get more serious about locking down, the government is going to tighten the lockdown that we are all under. They are trying to put the blame on you for this public health disaster of the Coronavirus and for the lockdown needed, it is indeed needed, in response to that disaster. In the letter, Prime Minister Johnson says, quote, “From the start, we, the government have sought to put in the right measures at the right time”. [00:00:42] The truth is very different. The truth is that the government have, for two months, systematically flouted World Health Organisation advice on how to deal with this pandemic and that in some respects they are still doing so now. [00:00:58] My name is Dr Rupert Read, a few weeks ago, I coordinated a letter; a version of which was published in The Daily Mail. It was signed by the editor of Britain’s foremost medical journal, The Lancet, and by the former chair of the House of Commons Science Select Committee. Now the government should have acted well before receiving our letter. They should have moved already to stop flights coming in from Italy and China. They should have quarantined those possibly having the virus. They should have ordered in ventilators and personal protective equipment for carers. They should have begun a mass program of testing. They should have provided enough to live on to all those tempted to work sick. But even after receiving a letter and even after being told firmly by the World Health Organisation that they were letting everyone down through their inactivity, they still did virtually nothing. [00:01:50] Now, of course, I’m not saying that dealing with this virus crisis is easy. Far from it. I don’t envy the governments and their advisers in their unprecedented task here. But the unprecedentedness of the task is exactly why we needed them to take strong action to protect us and to stay ahead of the curve and exactly why you deserve honesty from them now. The truth is, we didn’t get what we deserve. We didn’t get strong action to protect us. Instead, they wasted weeks on end and then cooked up their utterly disastrous herd immunity plan to infect most of us with this sometimes-deadly disease. And we’re still not getting honesty about all this now. The government are not telling us the truth about why a harsher lockdown may be needed. [00:02:44] South Korea came through this with no lockdown at all because they acted fast ahead of the virus to mass test, to contact trace, to physically distance. Think about that. South Korea showed the way. The difference between them and us; government policy. [00:03:05] The truth is that a hard lockdown is needed now, not for the reason the government is insinuating; they’re trying to blame us, the people, for the mess they created. Do not let Johnson get away with putting the blame for this horrific crisis that we’re now in, on you. The truth is that they, the government, are primarily to blame for the tsunami of infections and the torrent of deaths that Britain is still at the relatively early stages of. They, the government, have not done their first job. They have not protected us. A well-placed source has indicated to colleagues of mine that the Chief Medical Officer was ready some time ago to put in place tougher measures for physical distancing and so on and that these were vetoed at the last minute by the Prime Minister. A Prime Minister who showed leadership by shaking hands with hospital patients in a hospital where they were Coronavirus cases just a few weeks ago. [00:04:06] Now, if you happen to be someone who has privileged information that you could use to blow the whistle on the full truth about what our own government has done to us, then please go to www.truthteller.life. We all deserve to know the full facts. [00:04:26] We the people have led in this country and we’ve dragged our reluctant government behind us. That’s the truth. We led by pushing the government finally to act. We led already before that, many millions of us, by cancelling events, working from home, initiating physical distancing, before the government had done anything significant to protect us. And we’re leading now by being there for each other, by supporting our beloved NHS and by demanding that our carers get the personal protective equipment they so desperately need and deserve. We refused to go quietly and meekly into the tsunami of suffering that is coming, a torrent of death that is coming because our government fiddled while the world started to burn. And because for a while, our government’s ludicrous and deadly herd immunity plan meant that we had the most inactive and indeed actively harmful government policy in the whole world on the Coronavirus pandemic. [00:05:29] Why does all this matter? Am I just crying over spilt milk? It matters because thousands are dying unnecessarily and it matters because we’re still only at the relatively early stages of this emergency and we’re going to need much better leadership to get through it. We will get through this, though not before the government’s prevarication has cost large numbers of British lives. We’ll get through this together. And when we got through it, we’ll memorialize the dead by making damn sure that nothing like this deadly fiasco can ever happen again. And to make sure of that, we’ll need to start with a full public inquiry into how our government came to have the worst policy of inaction on Coronavirus in the whole world; a policy that will have killed many of our loved ones. A policy that means that a harsh and knock-down lockdown may indeed now be necessary. [00:06:27] It is government policy which has led to the desperate situation we are now in. If a fuller lockdown comes, this will be because they did not act and they must take responsibility for that. They must take responsibility for the need for any harsher lockdown soon to come. [00:06:52] Thank you for watching. If you agree with this video, then please share it. And please stay safe. When the government doesn’t protect, we the people have to lead the way. Opinions every one seems to have one maybe history will tell those who survive who or what was right But then again history only ever seems to be written by the Victor's |
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Post by whakka on Mar 30, 2020 15:17:44 GMT
Some people need realise just because you read it doesn't make it real and certainly doesn't make you fuckin clever.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 15:18:04 GMT
What if they went to shop and came out only with an easter egg? I really couldn't give a fuck, it's an Easter egg at Easter. I think if it helps people to add a bit of normality to this shit time then crack on. Now I know I won't incur your wrath, I'm off to halfords to get that bike  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:18:49 GMT
One of our neighbour's has been taken into hospital with suspected COVID-19. We've been told he's now on one of the new Dyson Ventilators and is picking up nicely. 6 |
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Post by theincontinents on Mar 30, 2020 15:21:42 GMT
Johnson's original plan of isolating the most vulnerable, whilst everyone else just got on, was the most appropriate. But then other advisors and the media ramped up the fear and the panic in the public to force his hand. This absolutely ridiculous totalitarian response, based on China, was always the globalist plan. A complete overreaction, with laws that may never be rescinded. This is of way more concern than the actual virus. Soon, it will be forced tracking, and forced vaccination. And an ability bring in these lockdown measures anytime, and even more draconian. That's the scariest thing about it all. And barely a whimper from the majority. Please seek some help from a mental health professional. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 30, 2020 15:24:14 GMT
Can't wait until these nasty infringements on freedoms are repealed. They are hugely dangerous and open to all sorts of abuse. What baffles me is, people saying the increased pressure on emergency services if you are out driving and have an accident, but (and i may well be wrong) don't more accidents happen within the home ? But in the home an accident doesn't generally involve two chunks of metal and plastic each weighing over a ton twatting into each other at high speed. Not in any I've lived in anyway |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 15:24:21 GMT
I think they've picked and chosen where to be when it comes to these markets. They're clearly commonplace over there despite being illegal and that seems odd. The rest of what you have wrote re that matter is superficial twaddle and you know it! It will stop an area that was open to this kind of thing happening in its tracks and that can only help. As will stopping deforestation and mankinds ever increasing creep into the wilderness. It does happen, so mitigate it. Scientists have known that these places are breeding grounds for this sort of thing. No one is saying it can all be prevented, indeed the only one suggesting that is you. The desire to find things to blame is the search of the truth and how to limit their impacts in the future and to learn from it. I don't want anyone persecuting, I genuinely think there could be evidence for prosecution mind within the British govt. Indeed so far the only person persercuted was the poor bloke that alerted the Chinese authorities to this. That is the last thing I want. And you don't need to warn me about that but head in the sandism isn't my thing and the Chinese government need calling out on a lot of things. This being one of them. Interesting take here linkThe conclusion appears to be that if the Chinese government were to crack down on wet markets (as you suggest) it would drive the trade underground and make cross species contamination more likely as part of the food chain would avoid regulation. This makes sense - no authoritarian regime has ever been totally successful and whenever a government tries to ban something people have a habit of working round it. It's a bit bizarre to blame China for not being authoritarian enough when being authoritarian actually causes the problem you are trying to stamp out. Maybe the solution would be to invite China to take up the place we've vacated in the EU to help bring China's food standards up to scratch while we suck up to the US in exchange for some chlorinated chicken. What's not to like? So then you take them on, head on. I wasn't blaming them for it, just saying it was curious, which it is. Their whole take on the environment and animals has to change though, it's so damaging. And we have to think about that too. Climate change is going to be a massive issue and we have to make changes. I've made my standpoint on the Americans food hygiene, I think it's disgusting and their whole system in general. Why anyone would want to align themselves with them I do now know. |
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Mar 30, 2020 15:25:08 GMT
I'd forgotten about this lot  it's a parody account, as well you know. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:26:20 GMT
Johnson's original plan of isolating the most vulnerable, whilst everyone else just got on, was the most appropriate. But then other advisors and the media ramped up the fear and the panic in the public to force his hand. This absolutely ridiculous totalitarian response, based on China, was always the globalist plan. A complete overreaction, with laws that may never be rescinded. This is of way more concern than the actual virus. Soon, it will be forced tracking, and forced vaccination. And an ability bring in these lockdown measures anytime, and even more draconian. That's the scariest thing about it all. And barely a whimper from the majority. The only reason there will be forced vaccination is because cretins will refuse to be vaccinated. |
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 30, 2020 15:27:24 GMT
Saying that everyone is going to die is really helpful 😄 Perhaps people should vent their anger at the nobheads who are still using the tube like this. It's this selfish "I'll be OK" attitude that will result in more stringent restrictions being put in place. Why can't more people think about the bigger picture and other people rather than not wanting their own lives impacted. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 30, 2020 15:30:46 GMT
Interesting take here linkThe conclusion appears to be that if the Chinese government were to crack down on wet markets (as you suggest) it would drive the trade underground and make cross species contamination more likely as part of the food chain would avoid regulation. This makes sense - no authoritarian regime has ever been totally successful and whenever a government tries to ban something people have a habit of working round it. It's a bit bizarre to blame China for not being authoritarian enough when being authoritarian actually causes the problem you are trying to stamp out. Maybe the solution would be to invite China to take up the place we've vacated in the EU to help bring China's food standards up to scratch while we suck up to the US in exchange for some chlorinated chicken. What's not to like? So then you take them on, head on. I wasn't blaming them for it, just saying it was curious, which it is. Their whole take on the environment and animals has to change though, it's so damaging. And we have to think about that too. Climate change is going to be a massive issue and we have to make changes. I've made my standpoint on the Americans food hygiene, I think it's disgusting and their whole system in general. Why anyone would want to align themselves with them I do now know. If our rampant consumerism could accommodate such a plan, when all this shit is done, perhaps we could internationally agree to nominate 2 months of the year as 'Planet Rest' months, maybe January and February every year, the enforced 'rest' seems to have done a lot of good if the figures I've seen are to be believed. |
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