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Post by musik on Mar 28, 2020 12:33:28 GMT
But with what?? I've tried to bought it here for a month, and last time I asked the cashier in the food store and he said: "We are not allowed to sell hand disinfectant here no more, all goes to the hospitals". To overcome the lack of this important item, Absolut Vodka, (yes, the booze manufacturer), has decided to start producing a version to food stores. I don't know if there are any side effects ... Cillet Bang and a wire brush would work. Are there any fingers left then?
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Post by musik on Mar 28, 2020 12:35:56 GMT
Don't forget to put the clocks forward tonight. It is these little bits of "normality" that help to keep us sane, though I suspect that the supermarket queues at 10 a.m. tomorrow might be a bit longer than usual due to those who forgot. Keep safe every one. Thanks the same! I have plans for a 7 a.m. shopping tomorrow, Sunday. One hour less sleep. And I'm not even a morning person.
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 28, 2020 12:38:08 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me.
A close family friend here has died this morning.
She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation.
It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care.
However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself.
I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it.
I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated.
Not sure anymore what to do or think.
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Post by zerps on Mar 28, 2020 12:42:18 GMT
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Post by henry on Mar 28, 2020 12:43:50 GMT
The prototype looked liked something Wallace & Grommet had knocked up. Fair doo's to Nick Grey though for stepping forward. But if it worked and was easy to make what does it matter? Did it meet the design / test requirements ? It will be more to do with technical than fucking brexit
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 28, 2020 12:46:19 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Very sorry to hear this mate, awful.
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Post by musik on Mar 28, 2020 12:46:27 GMT
Terrible.😐 I have pain in my lungs, especially at one side and pain in my ribs there. Nothing else. Could it be Corona? Problems lying down and with any physical activity, occasionally problems breathing. I really hope it's caused by me running into a cupboard 10 days ago, since there are no other symptoms. 😒 I've had exact same symptoms as you for 10 days. Shattered, anything gets me breathless For no specific reason? Just like that? I have an almost non-treatable asthma (allergic to inhaled cortisone) and are painting my kitchen. I know I react to the colours as well, I always react to such things. But the main incident was when I rushed to the stove and collided with a cupboard I just had moved, without remembering it. Looked up our special health site here and it said "ribs" as an explanation. I hope they are right. 2 weeks pain and then a further 1.5 months before it fades away apparently. They don't do much X-rays in Sweden. I have broken several body parts without any has been done. So I wouldn't count on that. Savings savings savings. This also what the whole Swedish Corona strategy is about. Savings. And it might sound like nonsense, but it's a fact: anxiety contributes to breathing difficulties. To some it can even trigger an asthma attack. So this Corona thing doesn't help, does it? After I have repaired a yesterday mistake I will play some guitar and shut down all news. Stay safe, Glasgow!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 12:50:29 GMT
I don’t know how to do links from U Tube but there is a great video on there; The Beatles. I’ve got to wash my hands. If somebody could link it I think it will be very popular. Thanking you in anticipation. 😀
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Post by henry on Mar 28, 2020 12:51:53 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Sad to hear this MS
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Post by musik on Mar 28, 2020 12:53:31 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Terrible news! Really sorry to hear this have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 12:53:55 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Condolences mate. And those poor bastards at the hospital having to make choices between who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t, I really feel for them.....
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 28, 2020 12:59:48 GMT
Whilst the viral envelope is good in terms of being able to kill viruses on surfaces using basic detergents that degrade the lipids in it, it’s a fantastic tool for the virus once it’s inside the body.
Some viruses can change their envelope between replication cycles so that the immune response is to an old antigen and the virus is no longer effected by the antibodies raised. Others such as HIV have their envelope studded with something called glycoproteins which are capable of degrading the “tagging” of the cell with something called complement protein which is an essential part of foreign bodies being degraded. As HIV targets immune cells too, it is not long before the body can’t compete with it, and that is why the destructions of the immune cells leaves the poor patients vulnerable to any kind of infection.
Fortunately, Coronavirus doesn’t appear to have these adaptations in its envelope and it would be a huge jump to end up having them, the viral envelope of coronavirus appears to help with invading cells but according to the studies looks fairly slow mutating and consistent, this will allow us to target it with a vaccine and of course as mentioned, leaves it open to detergents on surfaces outside the body.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Mar 28, 2020 13:06:44 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Condolences mate. And those poor bastards at the hospital having to make choices between who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t, I really feel for them..... It's such an awful situation. Breaking news to family was something I'd never really considered as being part and parcel of a Doctor's role until one had to notify our family that my Grandad wouldn't pull through. They way the doctor explain and empathised was absolutely amazing, supported by one of the nurses. Unfortunately they're in for an awful few months up and down the country. They really are amazing people. So sorry to hear your news MilanStokie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 13:13:49 GMT
My friend is very political about the subject and I think you can work out which side of the argument he's on! I don't get why anyone would want their system, it's just awful. In fact a lot about their way of life just seems dreadful to me, you've got the food standards stuff, guns, pollution etc. Seems such a backward system. Didn’t Obama make it mandatory for Americans to have insurance, ‘the affordable care act, ( Obamacare ) and now Trump is trying to tear it apart?
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Post by felonious on Mar 28, 2020 13:26:59 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. So sorry to hear this Milan. My mother is 86, active and generally healthy apart from Lupus. Are the doctors in Milan using the age of patients as the main factor to decide who gets a respirator or are they considering other factors?
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 28, 2020 13:33:40 GMT
Saw The Viral Envelope supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great band.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 28, 2020 13:35:55 GMT
New York - week 2 of self isolation complete.
All is well here for me personally despite what you may see in the Daily Fail this morning about life in NY. There aren't ambulance sirens wailing across an empty city, But on the front line the situation is dire. I spoke with a close friend yesterday who is an MD at one of the best hospitals- run out of masks and having to reuse, no face guards, saving trash bags for when thy run ou of smocks - going from a non C-19 to a confirmed C-19 and unable to changes protection.. the system is almost at breaking point. LA and Miami the same (first hand conversations with MDs) Everyone in my neighborhood is taking this extremely seriously and the we are all staying in with the only exceptions being grocery, laundry and walk/run for exercise once every other day avoiding anyone else by staying as far away as possible - much more than 2 meters.
The situation in the UK and around the US is also dire but for another reason. There is still no mandated self-isolation order in place. I just watched Thr's QT and they are still saying if you can't work from home and must go in then follow all the 2 meters apart rules - complete and utter BS - anywhere not self-isolating now needs to immediately. If whatever you can can wait for 3 months or longer then its not essential. The US in no better outside of major cities. I have friends reaching out from all over the US who are concerned for me but I'm more concerned for them. People all over the US, UK etc. are out there now spreading C-19 RIGHT NOW.
We've set up the morgue here at the Javitts - presumably it will the the Victoria Hall for Stoke?
Stay safe everyone.
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Post by chad on Mar 28, 2020 13:37:10 GMT
Only just seen this. It’s amazing how it originally was all over the news but now it turns out the story wasn’t true hardly anything
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 28, 2020 13:42:35 GMT
Because I'm not part of the Royal Family or a celebrity I have no idea if I've got Coronavirus or have had it. However, I thought I'd share my experiences of "symptoms" this week.
Monday and Tuesday afternoon/early evening I got a headache, which is very rare for me and I began to cough, all be it quite infrequently.
Wednesday/thursday my cough became more noticeable but the headaches had stopped, the only difference being I went to bed on both evenings at around 6 and just lay there with zero energy. I'd describe it as a hungover feeling, not the worst thing in the world but felt like I just couldn't be bothered to do anything. Thursday afternoon was also when my chest began to feel a bit tight, that's what made me start to worry a bit.
Friday and today, I'm still coughing but I feel a lot better in myself, maybe the chest tightness was due to the increased coughing? Or the fact it's actually just a chest infection? Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing (for now)
In any case, at a guess I reckon I'll be totally fine within a couple of days or so.
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 28, 2020 13:44:40 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. So sorry to hear this Milan. My mother is 86, active and generally healthy apart from Lupus. Are the doctors in Milan using the age of patients as the main factor to decide who gets a respirator or are they considering other factors? There were rumours weeks ago doctors having to decide between who they should and shouldn't save. There are not enough ventilators to treat everyone. What you hear now in Spain confirms it in Italy. People if a certain category will be sacrificed to save younger and healthier people whilst some will still run around the streets without a care in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 13:46:18 GMT
Because I'm not part of the Royal Family or a celebrity I have no idea if I've got Coronavirus or have had it. However, I thought I'd share my experiences of "symptoms" this week. Monday and Tuesday afternoon/early evening I got a headache, which is very rare for me and I began to cough, all be it quite infrequently. Wednesday/thursday my cough became more noticeable but the headaches had stopped, the only difference being I went to bed on both evenings at around 6 and just lay there with zero energy. I'd describe it as a hungover feeling, not the worst thing in the world but felt like I just couldn't be bothered to do anything. Thursday afternoon was also when my chest began to feel a bit tight, that's what made me start to worry a bit. Friday and today, I'm still coughing but I feel a lot better in myself, maybe the chest tightness was due to the increased coughing? Or the fact it's actually just a chest infection? Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing (for now) In any case, at a guess I reckon I'll be totally fine within a couple of days or so. Good news mate, hopefully you haven't had it but either way, here's to a full and quick recovery.
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 28, 2020 14:04:38 GMT
My experience of them has been most impressive. We have a Dyson animal which is great but a bit on the bulky side. Hang on a minute! A poster, called 'Henry' criticising other vacuum cleaners? I've cracked the case! View AttachmentTo be fair I've found those Hoover's much, much better than the 2 Dysons we had a few years back, I got so sick of taking them apart to get them to work I took them to the tip where, interestingly, there was hundreds of other Dysons lol. That was a few years ago, they may have improved since obviously. Had Dyson's for years, upgraded a couple of years back to one with the ball shape wheel and its fucking crap, Sony k ow if they have lowered the suction with EU power reg or something but it doesnt have as much oomph, spend more time taking bits off it to clear the pipes and the feel of the construction is flimsy, suffice to say this will be the last Dyson I get, i was already thinking of giving henry a go, as we used to have one at work and it seemed to be very powerful and quiet and easy to manover
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 14:07:10 GMT
Only just seen this. It’s amazing how it originally was all over the news but now it turns out the story wasn’t true hardly anything i personally took it with a pinch of salt at the time and some idiot was all over the comment. Was a facebook story picked up originally by the tabloids with no substance
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 28, 2020 14:07:56 GMT
1019 poor souls now passed away in the U.K. Big increase
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 14:10:57 GMT
The bigger increases appears to be here......
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 28, 2020 14:13:09 GMT
Really upsetting update personally from me. A close family friend here has died this morning. She was fine a week ago, somehow contracted the virus and developed mild symptoms and started self isolation. It got worse and 3 days ago had to be taken to hospital by ambulance. Straight to intensive care. However, she was 71 and had lupus and therefore was deemed not worthy enough of a respirator given there aren't anywhere near enough. She was allowed to pass away by herself. I guess many of us will be sharing similar stories in the next few weeks and there's no preparing for it. I'm still shocked at how fast it escalated. Not sure anymore what to do or think. Blimey.... condolences to you and yours fella....
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Post by felonious on Mar 28, 2020 14:17:49 GMT
So sorry to hear this Milan. My mother is 86, active and generally healthy apart from Lupus. Are the doctors in Milan using the age of patients as the main factor to decide who gets a respirator or are they considering other factors? There were rumours weeks ago doctors having to decide between who they should and shouldn't save. There are not enough ventilators to treat everyone. What you hear now in Spain confirms it in Italy. People if a certain category will be sacrificed to save younger and healthier people whilst some will still run around the streets without a care in the world. Surely to God no one is running around the streets of Milan and Lombardy with the recent weeks of bad news? Even young people have older parents and grandparents to think about. The wonderful thing about Italians is that closeness across the generations. When the kids were little we used to go to friends in a small town in Tuscany. I always asked him in advance to book the local restaurant, seeing the family generations of Italians enjoying time together over food certainly puts a smile on your face.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 14:36:19 GMT
Big jump in the number of deaths! Scary. Does anyone have the breakdown? London still worst hit? FullerMagic ?
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 28, 2020 14:53:58 GMT
Big jump in the number of deaths! Scary. Does anyone have the breakdown? London still worst hit? FullerMagic ? MrBath just said it’s gone upto 1019, but that was yesterday’s figures. Up from 759. Biggest jump we’ve had yet...
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Post by Jimm on Mar 28, 2020 15:00:40 GMT
We need proper lock down, millions of us still have to go to work every day. This wont stop getting worse for weeks and weeks
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