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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 26, 2020 22:25:57 GMT
Anyone else broke out the Hand Cream? Sore as from washing them all the time.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 26, 2020 22:32:24 GMT
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 26, 2020 22:36:00 GMT
But two days ago Trump said that they could see the light at the end of the tunnel, and that things would be back to normal next week? He must have been telling fibs. I am sure he said on the news this morning that "everyone will be packing out the churches on the beautiful Easter day" well one things for sure Mr Trump it won't be for celebrating Easter! He really has lost the plot!
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 26, 2020 22:58:15 GMT
I think it will here musik if everyone sticks to what they should be doing mate. How is it in Sweden? And hope you are keeping well mate. Huge criticism of Sweden from many other countries, because they think we don't have enough restrictions. I understand them. Most people stand in tight queues here. Shops, restaurants, hotels, libraries open. Gym also now. Transports going. No sports tournaments though. The executive boss for The People Health Dpt (An Authority the Government rely on 100%) here in Sweden, answered the criticism tonight with: "I don't understand why Finland are totally closing down Helsinki now for instance, and many countries do the same, what do they want to achieve with such isolation I don't understand. The Virus is already here. The same with the stop travelling. Why? The Virus is already here." So you don't care what they point out? Answer: "The thing is nobody has an answer. It's all an experiment." Earlier today he got a question from a journalist from Germany at the press conference. The german guy wanted him to mention what he thinks about the german low death rate level. His answer: "it's just because they do more tests, a lot more, 500.000 per day or something, we hardly do any tests here, and of course therefore their death rate level will be lower then." Wtf??? We have a complete idiot in charge. It frightens me to pieces! Not having read the last handful of pages, someone might have asked but are Sweden in lockdown fella or not? If no, are they going to implement it? Genuine question
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Post by yeokel on Mar 26, 2020 23:07:49 GMT
Good lads, I'm glad that you have. Was a bit sad to see no one on my street doing it, considering as well the street I'm on actually has people who are cared for! Still, I clapped anyway, even if I was on my own, they deserve our support. I didn’t know a thing about it until I just saw it on the news a few minutes ago. So, no, I didn’t do it. If I’d known, would I have done it? I suppose I’ll never know, but probably wouldn’t have unless I’d heard everyone else doing it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 26, 2020 23:14:08 GMT
Looks bleak for the US Trump's strategy doesn't appear to be working. This sort of thing seems to be the general response to his latest press conference
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 26, 2020 23:21:22 GMT
Looks like our deaths stats only include those tested those who die in hospital (like France)...so higher than reported.
"An NHS England source said the likely cause of people missing from the statistics is that the daily figures only include those who tested positive in hospital.
The UK is only testing people for coronavirus in hospital, so people dying at home or in care homes with symptoms of the disease will be missing from the overall figures."
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A Public Health England spokesman said the overall figures published daily represented all those who had tested positive for coronavirus, and there was no systemic testing of those who had died with symptoms but no confirmed diagnosis.
Its possible people are dying before they are diagnosed and tested
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 26, 2020 23:25:50 GMT
Looks like our deaths stats only include those tested those who die in hospital (like France)...so higher than reported. "An NHS England source said the likely cause of people missing from the statistics is that the daily figures only include those who tested positive in hospital. The UK is only testing people for coronavirus in hospital, so people dying at home or in care homes with symptoms of the disease will be missing from the overall figures." AND A Public Health England spokesman said the overall figures published daily represented all those who had tested positive for coronavirus, and there was no systemic testing of those who had died with symptoms but no confirmed diagnosis. Its possible people are dying before they are diagnosed and tested Similar to stories from Lombardy and possibly Spain too.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 26, 2020 23:28:22 GMT
I might be reading that all wrong but we seem to be on a similar trajectory to China. I think considering whats happening in Italy and Spain that would be a good result. They've got on top of it in about 3 months which would be about the best outcome for us.
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Post by musik on Mar 26, 2020 23:29:39 GMT
Not having read the last handful of pages, someone might have asked but are Sweden in lockdown fella or not? If no, are they going to implement it? Genuine question No. No. Not a chance, no matter what.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 26, 2020 23:35:40 GMT
Not having read the last handful of pages, someone might have asked but are Sweden in lockdown fella or not? If no, are they going to implement it? Genuine question No. No. Not a chance, no matter what. why is that ?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 26, 2020 23:36:17 GMT
Not having read the last handful of pages, someone might have asked but are Sweden in lockdown fella or not? If no, are they going to implement it? Genuine question No. No. Not a chance, no matter what. No offence at all mate (i know you don't make the decisions lol) but that's batshit mental
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Post by musik on Mar 26, 2020 23:39:39 GMT
No. No. Not a chance, no matter what. why is that ? Because we have a lunatic in charge, saying tonight: "Noone has the answer. It's all an experiment."
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Post by musik on Mar 26, 2020 23:43:48 GMT
No. No. Not a chance, no matter what. No offence at all mate (i know you don't make the decisions lol) but that's batshit mental Pure evil. Another authority executive lady said yesterday: "We will have to make ethical considerations in intensive care, when this hits us big time." meaning many won't get any help, they will look at what age you're at, who you are etc.
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 0:09:13 GMT
Did they admit this or do they think it's a conspiracy theory? Porridge made on oats; milk and apple sauce //:musik 😬 Ever actually tried Oatcakes musik? I'm intrigued. 2 x cheese and bean oatcakes, mug of black coffee. No, not yet. I have to go for the gluten free version (Celiak Disease).
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Mar 27, 2020 0:26:25 GMT
Ever actually tried Oatcakes musik? I'm intrigued. 2 x cheese and bean oatcakes, mug of black coffee. No, not yet. I have to go for the gluten free version (Celiak Disease). Sorry to barge in, but aren't oats gluten free? Assuming oatcakes are made without wheat or other gluten additives...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 0:34:39 GMT
No, not yet. I have to go for the gluten free version (Celiak Disease). Sorry to barge in, but aren't oats gluten free? Assuming oatcakes are made without wheat or other gluten additives... They do include flour.
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Post by skip on Mar 27, 2020 1:23:18 GMT
Because we have a lunatic in charge, saying tonight: "Noone has the answer. It's all an experiment."Fucking hell. That's nuts.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 1:33:56 GMT
I dont care a lot about number of new cases in each country because it depends mainly on testing, but +268 deaths in 24 hours for USA makes them a potential new Italy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 1:40:07 GMT
The outrage over Prince Charles being tested is extremely short-sighted. Just think how many people that man has been in close proximity to and shaken hands with over the past few weeks. Those people certainly deserve to know that they've been in contact with an infected person. Doesnt everyone? How about doctors and nurses?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 4:54:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 5:19:24 GMT
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 5:50:05 GMT
Thanks Burnside, I read it now and it was correct presented. They've applied a laissez-faire approach to it here. They encourage people to go out in the sun, and yes people sit tight together here at cafés. The picture is correct. Blind faith in the authority. It said "Folkhälsomyndigheten (Public Health Agency) is politically independent", I don't know about that, it doesn't feel that way. Why this is their approach is crystal clear to me. Late complement to the article: secondary schools are open up again now (for the third year students).
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 6:01:10 GMT
Because we have a lunatic in charge, saying tonight: "Noone has the answer. It's all an experiment."Fucking hell. That's nuts. He explained it further with "it's a new disease, a completely new situation, so noone can say what's best". The same person who said "everybody should get the bird flu vaccine" a decade ago or so. I did. The result was thousands of children and youngsters who suffer from chronic fatigue for the rest of their lives now as a side effect, falling asleep totally uncontrolled. His answer "It's something we have to take. Everything has side effects." And he didn't want to take it himself, he said.
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 6:23:59 GMT
No, not yet. I have to go for the gluten free version (Celiak Disease). Sorry to barge in, but aren't oats gluten free? Assuming oatcakes are made without wheat or other gluten additives... Oats are only labeled "gluten free" if there is no other kind of stuff (like wheat for instance) growing beside the fields AND there has only been oats on that land they harvest for two seasons in a row. No contamination. Furthermore, in England and USA they have a different view about oats compared to science in Australia and New Zealand where they've shown oats always contain some gluten, just like wheat, barley and rye. So they never recommend oats to anyone there with Celiak disease. They also have a different lower measure for "gluten free", 25% of the limit in USA. They also have another label on their packages, saying "no detectable gluten". Thanks for posting here, otherwise I wouldn't have come across this new science info. So I will diminish my intake in the near future of "gluten free" oats as well, since I still have problems, just as I have done with some chocolate bars and ice cream labeled "can contain traces of gluten".
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 6:41:35 GMT
More on gluten and CORONA:
There are different kind of gluten: gliadin in wheat, secalin in rye, hardein in barley - and actually, avenin in oats!
And those with Celiak Disease (full blown gluten intolerance, an auto-immune disorder), like myself, are said to be one of the risk groups for the Corona virus - since they can suffer from an auto-immune response after 7-10 days during the Corona illness, the severe kind of pneumonia.
I recently read (haven't had any info on that from my doctor), celiak patients should always get the annual pneumonia vaccine injection, since we tend to get pneumonia much easier. He takes Celiak disease far too easy!! Read: knows nothing about it ...
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 27, 2020 6:48:22 GMT
Did they admit this or do they think it's a conspiracy theory? Porridge made on oats; milk and apple sauce //:musik 😬 Ever actually tried Oatcakes musik? I'm intrigued. 2 x cheese and bean oatcakes, mug of black coffee. Coffee with oatcakes! What is wrong with your tastebuds? Coffee with sweet stuff, tea with savoury... Come on, I know there’s a National State of emergency, but standards must be kept up.
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Post by musik on Mar 27, 2020 6:58:28 GMT
Latest, some good news
Beware of sepsis! The reason the people have died from the Corona virus isn't so much the initial Corona virus itself, or even the following pnemonia state in some cases, but when it leads to sepsis later on. A study of Corona death cases in China showed that everyone(!) who have died from Corona got sepsis in the end.
In Sweden we seem to be good at treating sepsis. Therefore, I don't think we will have hundreds of thousand dead people here from this shit. They're learning more and more day by day about Corona around the world, and that brings positivism. And I hope the sepsis treatment is good in UK and elsewhere as well. Now they know what to look for. [source: the never ending flood of info on the news here in media].
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Post by elystokie on Mar 27, 2020 7:01:21 GMT
Ever actually tried Oatcakes musik? I'm intrigued. 2 x cheese and bean oatcakes, mug of black coffee. Coffee with oatcakes! What is wrong with your tastebuds? Coffee with sweet stuff, tea with savoury... Come on, I know there’s a National State of emergency, but standards must be kept up. I've taken this opportunity to live on the edge a bit
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Post by zerps on Mar 27, 2020 7:11:55 GMT
Ever actually tried Oatcakes musik? I'm intrigued. 2 x cheese and bean oatcakes, mug of black coffee. Coffee with oatcakes! What is wrong with your tastebuds? Coffee with sweet stuff, tea with savoury... Come on, I know there’s a National State of emergency, but standards must be kept up. Tea with one sugar in a polystyrene cup with a plastic lid or it’s a hate crime.
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