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Post by drfootball on Sept 29, 2021 10:42:00 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them.
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Post by musik on Sept 29, 2021 11:17:25 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them. It's only natural most people in hospitals or even at an ICU are double jabbed these days, since most of us/them have been double jabbed. That's my opinion.
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Post by yyy on Sept 29, 2021 11:27:47 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them. It's only natural most people in hospitals or even at an ICU are double jabbed these days, since most of us/them have been double jabbed. That's my opinion. What is the point of the jab then?
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Post by yyy on Sept 29, 2021 11:28:54 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them. I'm not anti vax i think they make great hoovers I'm just not having the vaccine, I've never had a flu jab either, does that make me anti flu vaccine too?
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Post by musik on Sept 29, 2021 11:50:40 GMT
It's only natural most people in hospitals or even at an ICU are double jabbed these days, since most of us/them have been double jabbed. That's my opinion. What is the point of the jab then? To give some protection. But as I posted recently, the trust in the vaccine's effect long term has been much too high.
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Post by musik on Sept 29, 2021 11:56:04 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 29, 2021 11:57:23 GMT
Sweden is a huge success story, Tegnell is a genius. I'm in Malmo as we speak, what a place 😃
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Post by musik on Sept 29, 2021 12:01:31 GMT
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Post by musik on Sept 29, 2021 12:03:11 GMT
Sweden is a huge success story, Tegnell is a genius. I'm in Malmo as we speak, what a place 😃 They're playing away today! In St Petersburg, versus Zenit. Not at home. 😁
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Post by noustie on Sept 29, 2021 12:31:33 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Sept 29, 2021 12:40:14 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them. I'm not anti vax i think they make great hoovers I'm just not having the vaccine, I've never had a flu jab either, does that make me anti flu vaccine too? There are literally dozens of vaccines currently available that most people have have made a personal decision they don't need to take. So anti-vaxxers are everywhere and are the majority. Including those who label others 'anti-vaxxers'.
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Post by drfootball on Sept 29, 2021 12:57:51 GMT
No idea why you insist on posting rubbish from this fruitbat without any context. She was the one posting that 80% of the ITU beds in Kilmarnock were full of double jabbed patients a couple of weeks ago yet the unit only has 6 beds. Ok, I think we`ve all got it that you`re an anti vaxxer but reposting her rubbish is daft unless there are meaningful numbers behind them. I'm not anti vax i think they make great hoovers I'm just not having the vaccine, I've never had a flu jab either, does that make me anti flu vaccine too? I honestly don`t give a monkey`s whether you have or havn`t had any medication ever, my point was, that posting June Slater`s rubbish without any context or data is totally meaningless.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 29, 2021 15:14:09 GMT
It's only natural most people in hospitals or even at an ICU are double jabbed these days, since most of us/them have been double jabbed. That's my opinion. What is the point of the jab then? I'd say something has a really good point if it works brilliantly, even if it's not perfect. To me it's exactly like you're saying: "what's the point of a parachute? People still die skydiving. Actually, most people who die skydiving had parachutes!". Double-jabbed Pfizer/Moderna are like 90% effective at preventing hospital, they basically "save" 90% of people from needing to go in. So for every vaccinated person in a bed, there are 9 others who were saved. Imagine Victoria hospitals have 100 covid patients and 73 are vaccinated. That's 73%. If noone was vaccinated though, you wouldn't have saved 9 people for every one that went in and instead of having 100 patients you'd have 757. Saving loads of people from hospital is a good enough "point" for me.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 29, 2021 15:16:44 GMT
Damn kids of today and their willingness to have a minor convenience in order to help save other people's lives. Grrr.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 29, 2021 15:18:31 GMT
They must have vaccinated a lot of old people. Ah, if the narrative goes against your beliefs you can’t compute it 😎😀 There are loads of narratives mate but most of them are wrong! The numbers all add up for "the vaccine works", and the people saying it doesn't just don't make any sense the moment you look at the figures.
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Post by jack1 on Sept 29, 2021 15:48:04 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 29, 2021 15:58:33 GMT
You want me to have a pop and show some numbers? It all seems sensible to me. We're more open and there's a more infectious variant so you'd expect way more deaths, but we have vaccines so the death rates are kept in check.
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Post by jack1 on Sept 29, 2021 16:03:36 GMT
You want me to have a pop and show some numbers? It all seems sensible to me. We're more open and there's a more infectious variant so you'd expect way more deaths, but we have vaccines so the death rates are kept in check. Yeah show me some numbers! We are not more open than this time last year, prove to me the latest strain is more infectious? how are vaccines keeping it in check if the deaths are going up?
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Post by noustie on Sept 29, 2021 16:42:17 GMT
Damn kids of today and their willingness to have a minor convenience in order to help save other people's lives. Grrr. Erm no – unless you have access to a time machine and have seen what 2030-50 looks like? The numbers in Scotland are falling off a cliff with half term next week so it would seem a good time in what is essentially a live experiment to pause and reflect rather than ramp up the narrative on jabbing as many kids as quickly as possible especially in the same week Moderna and AZ have said this thing will be like flu/cold season by next year. With the numbers of kids who get seriously sick from Covid being so ridiculously small all it would take would be a handful of the 1-2m kids to develop short and/or long term complications from the vaccine for it to be an absolute cluster fuck. The equation for a parent on deciding would appear to be on the one hand: leaving the child to deal with a virus that in real time as we understand today is barely affecting this age range and resultantly not contributing to a woolly ill-defined alleged societal benefit that doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny given it'd account for 1-2% of the population so hardly make or break for herd immunity. vs taking a vaccine the JCVI have said is of insufficient benefit to recommend on health grounds for this age group; that has had emergency approval rather than the usual longer term studies; therefore that we can only have a reasonably educated guess on its long term implications (thinking it's going to be 100% bullet proof is pie in the sky for me); that governments had to provide complete immunity on to pharmaceuticals before they’d develop it (suggesting they don’t believe it’s bullet proof themselves); that has caused 30-40 kids in Ontario to suffer heart problems up to August this year; where we’re already limiting it to one dose because of complications; being pushed by a pharmaceutical industry who clearly have a conflict of interest; pushed by a government with vested interests; etc. I'm not anti-vaccine - what it is doing is quite frankly outstanding. However, that doesn't mean it should be applied carte blanche without questioning as without doubt there is no progress. Partisan backing of the vaccine doesn’t achieve anything bar jabbing shit loads of kids with something they don’t need, that won’t achieve a great deal societally and that we then cross our fingers won’t bite their arses in decades to come.
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 29, 2021 16:43:00 GMT
You want me to have a pop and show some numbers? It all seems sensible to me. We're more open and there's a more infectious variant so you'd expect way more deaths, but we have vaccines so the death rates are kept in check. Yeah show me some numbers! We are not more open than this time last year, prove to me the latest strain is more infectious? how are vaccines keeping it in check if the deaths are going up? Eh? This time last year all night clubs and other indoor venues of that kind were still shut, no crowds at anything, all festivals cancelled. Social distancing everywhere, 1 way systems, mandatory mask wearing. We're basically back to normal life at the minute, you just have to jump through a few hoops if you want to go abroad.
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Post by jack1 on Sept 29, 2021 17:15:14 GMT
Yeah show me some numbers! We are not more open than this time last year, prove to me the latest strain is more infectious? how are vaccines keeping it in check if the deaths are going up? Eh? This time last year all night clubs and other indoor venues of that kind were still shut, no crowds at anything, all festivals cancelled. Social distancing everywhere, 1 way systems, mandatory mask wearing. We're basically back to normal life at the minute, you just have to jump through a few hoops if you want to go abroad. This time last year I was on holiday in st Ives, the place was packed, pubs full, streets full, hotels full, supermarkets full, there was a government scheme to encourage people into pubs and restaraunts. I started a new job at the start of second "lockdown" which ment commuting on the M62 at 5am all three lanes were packed with traffic presumably all going to work and mixing. Social distancing everywhere, 1 way systems, mandatory mask wearing is prety much the same now and un-proven they have any effect. Some percentage have woken up and diched these measures. Clubs and fesivals arnt frequented by those at risk. The opressive actions of governments and media arround the world doesnt feel normal to me! I'v given up on going abroad because of the rediculous measures. Where are those numbers again?
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Post by henry on Sept 29, 2021 17:38:52 GMT
Damn kids of today and their willingness to have a minor convenience in order to help save other people's lives. Grrr. The vaccine does not stop younger people from catching covid and passing it on.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2021 17:41:27 GMT
Damn kids of today and their willingness to have a minor convenience in order to help save other people's lives. Grrr. The vaccine does not stop younger people from catching covid and passing it on. It’s utterly pointless. Not to mention, an absolute disgrace to inject children with a useless vaccine. To me everyone who needs or wants it has had it and only pensioners should be considered for a booster.
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Post by zerps on Sept 29, 2021 18:18:43 GMT
The delta variant is the vaccine
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 29, 2021 18:21:28 GMT
The delta variant is the vaccine Buy bitcoin etc
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Post by mutters on Sept 29, 2021 18:30:29 GMT
The vaccine does not stop younger people from catching covid and passing it on. It’s utterly pointless. Not to mention, an absolute disgrace to inject children with a useless vaccine. To me everyone who needs or wants it has had it and only pensioners should be considered for a booster. Well said, additionally, any person who either cannot or has not had a vaccine shouldn't be treated differently in any way ala travel
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Post by zerps on Sept 29, 2021 18:34:21 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2021 18:36:03 GMT
It’s utterly pointless. Not to mention, an absolute disgrace to inject children with a useless vaccine. To me everyone who needs or wants it has had it and only pensioners should be considered for a booster. Well said, additionally, any person who either cannot or has not had a vaccine shouldn't be treated differently in any way ala travel Got a problem at work at the minute with a guy. We are going to Milan for a job in about 4 weeks. He’s not had the vaccine, he’s had Covid but it’s 5 days isolation when you get there and 10 days when you get back. There’s talk of letting him go (as in relieving him of his duties) just because he’s decided he doesn’t want it after having Covid. Can’t be right can it?
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Post by yyy on Sept 29, 2021 18:51:39 GMT
Pisser, Channel 4 news just interviewing a resident living next to the currently active volcano in Palma, "I'm not going anywhere I'm not scared", she says whilst fully masked outside on the coastline 😁
And that.. in a nutshell wraps up the world we live in
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 29, 2021 19:07:20 GMT
Pisser, Channel 4 news just interviewing a resident living next to the currently active volcano in Palma, "I'm not going anywhere I'm not scared", she says whilst fully masked outside on the coastline 😁 And that.. in a nutshell wraps up the world we live in If the lava gets her and she smokes it, if she has Covid she’ll be a Covid death 😇
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